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simple geometry.
Ok I am building a swing in my back yard, a simple A frame design. I am trying to figure out the angles that I need to cut to get what I am looking for.
My sides on the A frame will be 8 feet long, and 4 feet apart at the bottom. I can not for the life of me remember how to solve for the angles that I need. Some help would be greatly appreciated, if anyone knows what i'm talking about. It's sad that a 5th year senior in college can't figure this out. |
dola- maybe 4 feet apart at the bottom isn't what i'm looking for.
Anyone have any swing building advice? I'm thinking 5-1/2 feet at the bottom? |
and i found this page after i posted that...
seems to be what i was looking for....but is the angle i'm looking for only 7.5? that seems way to small? http://www.ajdesigner.com/phptriangl...isector_tb.php |
Hey, glad we could help.
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Well, if all three sides of the "A" were equal (i.e., 8x8x8) every angle would be 60 degrees, since a triangle must form 180 degrees.
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law of cosines
a^2=b^2+c^2-2bccosA so... 4^2=8^2+8^2-2*8*8*cosA or (16-64-64)/-2*8*8 =cos A 112/128=cosA 0.875=cosA A=28.955 degrees |
Or a much simpler way (if I understand the design correctly)...
Your hypoteneus (the diagonal 8' piece) is 8'. 5.5' at the bottom divided by 2 (to make a right angle) = 2.75'. So to get the bottom angle you simply take the cos(theta) = adjacent/hyp cos(theta) = 2.75'/8' theta = arccos (2.75'/8') theta = 69.9 degrees So the angle the 8' piece forms with the ground is 70 degrees. |
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Or you could use a calculator and ask for the arcsine of 2/8 and then multiply that by 2. A = 2*ARCSINE(2/8) :D |
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............../ ............./ ..........8'/ .........../ ........../.................\ ........./..x.............x..\ ........_______________ ...............5.5' x = 70 degrees the other angle is intuitive... 180 - 140 = 40 degrees. |
This is what I get for not reading carefully. I was using 4 ft at the bottom instead of 5.5 feet.
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I don't know how you could remember that silly law of cosines. I wish I could, as a lot of my classes require all kinds of force balancing (fortunately as you move up in levels they go from angled forces to horiztonal & vertical forces!:)), but I always revert to drawing a stupid picture. |
2/3?
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I better remember it! I have to teach it later this semester. That was the first thing I thought of since I knew the 3 sides. using right angle trig is more effective. Just wish that hadf been my first thoughtr instead. :D |
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