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Dutch 09-26-2006 02:39 PM

PC/Console Game Discussion Area
 
Do we still need to have this segregated from the general forum for it's non-FOF related theme?

It seems like some potentially good information there that is being missed since most of the viewing audience is here.

Ksyrup 09-26-2006 02:40 PM

I'm going to say no, since I didn't remember that separate forum even existed.

stevew 09-26-2006 02:41 PM

It would be great to move all those posts here, and change the nickname of that forum to Werewolf Only! and move all the WW threads there. And possibly make that a non-post count zone as well.

rkmsuf 09-26-2006 02:41 PM

put the werewolf people over there

rkmsuf 09-26-2006 02:41 PM

lol

stevew 09-26-2006 02:42 PM

jinx

hoopsguy 09-26-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1257151)
It would be great to move all those posts here, and change the nickname of that forum to Werewolf Only! and move all the WW threads there. And possibly make that a non-post count zone as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf (Post 1257152)
put the werewolf people over there


But then I would miss all the deep thoughts that the two of you offer me on a daily basis.

Godzilla Blitz 09-26-2006 03:22 PM

I think the idea was to get the game information in one place so that it would be easier to wade through, but the area never got the viewing mass to make it fly. Over time, people just started posting game impressions in the general forum and the game/pc forum area died a slow and silent death.

I'd say one of the following should be done:
1. Kill the area and fold it into the general area.
2. Make the pc/console game discussion area more active by having moderators move pc/console discussion threads to that game area when they are incorrectly posted in the general forum.

If we went with #2, it would probably take some time before the posting built up over there, but I think it would come with time.

Given the "everything goes in one pile" nature of this board, I'm guessing that it's probably just easier to kill that area and pull the stuff over here.

WSUCougar 09-26-2006 03:27 PM

I'd be happy to do #2 if need be.

Er, I mean GB's option #2.

Ksyrup 09-26-2006 03:35 PM

I don't recall when the separate forum was originally made and for what reasons, but it doesn't make all that much sense on this board to have a separate forum about console games, while leaving something like Werewolf in this forum. It seems like console games are much more closely aligned with something we would discuss in the general discussion forum of a text sim sports game messageboard than Werewolf.

And I'm just picking on Werewolf because it's the easiest "other" topic to group. I'm not saying we need another forum for Werewolf, but if there's going to be one, that makes more sense to me.

Kodos 09-26-2006 03:59 PM

Don't forget those damned Hot or Not polls! They should have their own forumn!

Ksyrup 09-26-2006 04:13 PM

If they were never-ending, it might be worth looking into. But they were like a "mini-series" of posts.

cthomer5000 09-26-2006 04:30 PM

move the werewolf bastards

WVUFAN 09-26-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar (Post 1257248)
I'd be happy to do #2 if need be.

Er, I mean GB's option #2.


Bad logic. If the PC gaming area is a dead zone, moving the posts there won't necessarily mean the people will go there to post. People post on General because that's where most of the people here go to. Moving posts would in effect kill most of the posts.

There's a good bit of PC/console discussion already going on on General. Why not keep it here along with the political posts and the Werewolf posts? What harm is it doing here anyway?

Fouts 09-26-2006 05:44 PM

I say No to segregation.

Icy 09-27-2006 03:31 AM

That forum area is useless unless we are forced to post there the "All right boys..." threads.

Godzilla Blitz 09-27-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 1257347)
Bad logic. If the PC gaming area is a dead zone, moving the posts there won't necessarily mean the people will go there to post. People post on General because that's where most of the people here go to. Moving posts would in effect kill most of the posts.


On other boards I visit, a locked thread gets left behind when someone posts a thread in the wrong area. That thread leads people to the correct area. After a while the habit kicks in and people figure things out.

But yes, you're right, just moving the thread would probably kill it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 1257347)
There's a good bit of PC/console discussion already going on on General. Why not keep it here along with the political posts and the Werewolf posts? What harm is it doing here anyway?


I think the original idea was not so much for the sake of pulling the discussion out of the general area, but more for organizing the information so it would be easier to use later. The goal, I think, was to have an area that a reader could go to and see a list of discussions and impressions on a lot of games. By putting them in one place, you'd be able to browse through discussions on games you hadn't heard of before. In many ways, I think the intent was similar to our FOF Strategy area.

If we did go with option #2 (moving the threads), it'd probably be helpful to have someone go through the general area and move some of the older discussions that we've had on games to the pc/console area. That would make a big step towards creating that information resource that was the original intent of the area. I'd be happy to help with this if there is an easy way to set it up to do so.

I don't really have preference one way or the other as to what happens, however.

Ben E Lou 09-27-2006 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz (Post 1258037)
I think the original idea was not so much for the sake of pulling the discussion out of the general area, but more for organizing the information so it would be easier to use later. The goal, I think, was to have an area that a reader could go to and see a list of discussions and impressions on a lot of games. By putting them in one place, you'd be able to browse through discussions on games you hadn't heard of before.

That was precisely why I did it. My vision was that people would entitle their threads with the game title, so a quick sort could be done to find info on a given game. If I recall, this was before board searches sped up tremendously around here. Searches are much faster now, so I'm not so sure that forum has much use any more.

I'll investigate setting up a Werewolf-only forum, with post counts disabled, later this evening.

Ben E Lou 09-27-2006 12:37 PM

Dola:

That was ***MUCH*** easier than I thought it would be. Werewolf forum created.

Blade6119 09-27-2006 12:41 PM

So why is the WW forum post count disabled? If hattrick forum is post count enabled, i dont see why WW is not.

Ben E Lou 09-27-2006 12:42 PM

I like it when people lose posts.

Blade6119 09-27-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog (Post 1258073)
I like it when people lose posts.


Im being serious here. What reason is there for WW to be a non-post count forum.

st.cronin 09-27-2006 12:44 PM

Now I know how jbmagic felt.

rkmsuf 09-27-2006 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog (Post 1258062)
Dola:

That was ***MUCH*** easier than I thought it would be. Werewolf forum created.


You magnificient bastard!

BrianD 09-27-2006 12:47 PM

Ugh, this is seriously inconvenient. Now it takes way too many clicks to bounce from the general forum to the WW forum, and I can't peruse the general forum and see when a new post was made to a WW thread. Boo to the new home.

Ksyrup 09-27-2006 01:00 PM

If that was so easy, I renew my request for a "banned/boxed FOFC members-only" forum. I love me some fireworks.

rkmsuf 09-27-2006 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1258096)
If that was so easy, I renew my request for a "banned/boxed FOFC members-only" forum. I love me some fireworks.


I second the motion.

stevew 09-27-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog (Post 1258073)
I like it when people lose posts.


Wow, someone lost like 4k.

st.cronin 09-27-2006 01:04 PM

I would enjoy that as well.

Ben E Lou 09-27-2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1258102)
Wow, someone lost like 4k.

Seriously??? :eek:

molson 09-27-2006 01:10 PM

It makes no sense to segregate stuff when a board's as small as this one.

WVUFAN 09-27-2006 01:13 PM

I understand why you did it, Skydog, but you're casting a slippery slope. People are gonna start coming out of the woodwork saying anything not directly FOF related be given a different forum ... Hot or Not Polls, Political discussions (which is the one that REALLY needed its own forum), anything with a reasonably high post count that people don't want to see on the General forum. The more you separate the different discussions, the more things people are gonna want to separate.

The sole reason why a discussion topic is given it's own forum ... the "General" populace don't want to be bothered skipping over it, and people are gonna say "X" needs it's own forum.

I do agree with Blade, though -- if WW threads are non-counting posts, so should Hattrick.

BrianD 09-27-2006 01:16 PM

I don't see how it is a nuisance to skip over one WW thread where there is so much general crap in the general forum.

molson 09-27-2006 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 1258127)
The sole reason why a discussion topic is given it's own forum ... the "General" populace don't want to be bothered skipping over it, and people are gonna say "X" needs it's own forum.



This is what I don't get. At any given time, there's approximately 1 WW thread out of 50 (depending on your settings I guess) on the main page. What's the big deal? Segregation = the death of that particular topic. Will political threads be killed next?

WVUFAN 09-27-2006 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1258140)
I don't see how it is a nuisance to skip over one WW thread where there is so much general crap in the general forum.


I don't either. I skip over threads all the time.

SunDevil 09-27-2006 01:19 PM

I vote for all the WW threads to be banished to their own section as well.

BrianD 09-27-2006 01:19 PM

This also won't help to remove the "player needed" threads because people won't bother to read the warewolf forum if they aren't in an active game.

rkmsuf 09-27-2006 01:20 PM

[quote=molson;1258143][quote=WVUFAN;1258127]
The sole reason why a discussion topic is given it's own forum ... the "General" populace don't want to be bothered skipping over it, and people are gonna say "X" needs it's own forum.

Quote:


This is what I don't get. At any given time, there's approximately 1 WW thread out of 50 (depending on your settings I guess) on the main page. What's the big deal? Segregation = the death of that particular topic.


And there's your answer.

FWIW I don't care either way. I can respect werewolves except when they get behind the wheel.

WVUFAN 09-27-2006 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 1258143)
This is what I don't get. At any given time, there's approximately 1 WW thread out of 50 (depending on your settings I guess) on the main page. What's the big deal? Segregation = the death of that particular topic. Will political threads be killed next?


People are gonna start saying "If WW has it's own thread, so should Politicals, or Hot or Not, or XX type of thread". Again, it's setting a precedence that isn't the best one to set.

Plus you're alienating a core set of people by making the WW threads non-post counting, as if WW games are somehow less worthy of a post than some other inane posting on the general board, ie, a parody post gets counted, but WW posts do not.

st.cronin 09-27-2006 01:22 PM

I don't know why the Georgia Tech Bulldogs don't have their own forum, too.

Kodos 09-27-2006 01:26 PM

I think we should eliminate post counts altogether, because who really cares.

I don't think Werewolf should be weeded out of General Discussion. I've never read one, but they don't bother me. I pretty much just ignore them. I could see having a political forum to keep all the bickering in one place (especially with an election coming up).

molson 09-27-2006 01:27 PM

I would however argue that we need a seperate forum for all discussion of Screech's wang.

rkmsuf 09-27-2006 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 1258166)
I would however argue that we need a seperate forum for all discussion of Screech's wang.


If it makes it to 10 pages I'll co-sponsor your bill.

WVUFAN 09-27-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1258159)
I don't know why the Georgia Tech Bulldogs don't have their own forum, too.


The way things seem to be going, the Georgia Bulldogs/Tucker Whatevers are gonna get their own forum, with posts counting double.

This is really screwy.

BrianD 09-27-2006 01:33 PM

Can I also vote that local Atlanta sports gets its own forum?

TazFTW 09-27-2006 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1258165)
I could see having a political forum to keep all the bickering in one place (especially with an election coming up).


Yes, please.

Buccaneer 09-27-2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1258176)
Can I also vote that local Atlanta sports gets its own forum?


YES!!!!!!!!

Buccaneer 09-27-2006 07:25 PM

Forgot to add Please

Godzilla Blitz 09-28-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog (Post 1258047)
That was precisely why I did it. My vision was that people would entitle their threads with the game title, so a quick sort could be done to find info on a given game. If I recall, this was before board searches sped up tremendously around here. Searches are much faster now, so I'm not so sure that forum has much use any more.


I think the only argument for the pc/console discussion area now would be for situations where you're looking for ideas for a game to get. I've found a bunch of great games on other boards that I never would have searched for (didn't know they existed) because all the game information is in one area and you can browse through it. With game information scattered in the general area, it's easy to miss those discussions.

stevew 09-28-2006 02:55 PM

One other thing you can do in vBulletin is create a subforum to the main forum, keeps things from getting too spread out.


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