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spleen1015 10-04-2006 02:54 PM

Some WW History questions...
 
How many games have the wolves won?
How many games have the villagers won?
What is the quickest wolf win?
What is the quickest villager win?

I am hoping there is someone who have this information tracked. :D

hoopsguy 10-04-2006 03:36 PM

I don't know of anyone who has this all tracked currently, but I think there has been some interest in doing this.

Wolves have thrown a perfect game before - SackAttack and I did this in the Star Wars game and I am pretty sure it has happened in others as well.

The villagers have won in two days - was one of the earlier games with a vampire theme.

As a general observation, the more complex games seem to have favored the villagers and the simpler games have favored the wolves. I believe the games with more roles have been more challenging to balance for the moderators, although others may have differing opinions on this.

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 07:08 PM

Don't know about win/loss stats for games. That information has not been kept up to date on the firs few posts in games, so it would take some time to compile.

I have a list of who has played in various games and who has GM'd them, but that is it. Just in case you are wondering:

Blade has played in the most at 27
Peregrine has hosted the most at 6

Barkeep49 10-04-2006 07:21 PM

What's the full list of hosting? I had always thought Neon Chaos had hosted the most.

hoopsguy 10-04-2006 07:44 PM

Yikes - 27 games!!!

Blade6119 10-04-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1265294)
Yikes - 27 games!!!


Now i can really claim to be the most experienced player!! HAHAHA, BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!

Count me as very interested in seeing the whole list gramat has for players.

Fouts 10-04-2006 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1265341)
Now i can really claim to be the most experienced player!! HAHAHA, BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!

Count me as very interested in seeing the whole list gramat has for players.


27 games, 27 early deaths? ;)

Barkeep49 10-04-2006 09:06 PM

Fouts: 26 early games. He had to earn his reputation the first time :)

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1265258)
What's the full list of hosting? I had always thought Neon Chaos had hosted the most.


Hosting is something like this:

Perigrine – 6
Neon Chaos – 5
Barkeep – 5
Sir Fozzie – 2
Air Hog – 2
Saldana – 2
Hoopsguy – 2
St.cronin – 2
All other GMs – 1

There have been 36 games. Two have duplicated Roman numerals and the Newbie Game is the 36th.

A total of 18 people have GM'd.

After Blade on the players side,

Kingfc – 25
Scmidty – 25
SnDvls – 20
5 are tied at – 17

A total of 103 people have played a game.

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1265294)
Yikes - 27 games!!!


You have played in 15, the first being WW VII - Return to XCom in July of 2005.

hoopsguy 10-04-2006 09:43 PM

Shoot, with that few games I should have been eligible for the newcomer game :D

Lathum 10-04-2006 09:48 PM

ok, i gotta ask. how many for me?

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1265393)
Shoot, with that few games I should have been eligible for the newcomer game :D


Out of 103 players, based on number of games you are tied for 11th. Very much a vet ;)

Actually, I think the newbie games need a mix of vets and new players to get the most out of the game. I mean the fastest way to learn is to watch those who know a few tricks.

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1265400)
ok, i gotta ask. how many for me?


You are one of the 5 with 17 games and you have the honor, along with 10 other players of playing in the first game, WW I - The Game, back in June of 2005. :cool:

Barkeep49 10-04-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1265403)
Out of 103 players, based on number of games you are tied for 11th. Very much a vet ;)

Actually, I think the newbie games need a mix of vets and new players to get the most out of the game. I mean the fastest way to learn is to watch those who know a few tricks.

I'm not so sure this is true, frankly. I think having a few people who have played in a game or two is beneficial, but I think having the vets in there seems counter to an envoirnment that encourages risk taking. But I could be way off base and at the end of the game there could be some feedback from the players about what they thought having some rather experienced players in the game.

Grammaticus 10-04-2006 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1265413)
I'm not so sure this is true, frankly. I think having a few people who have played in a game or two is beneficial, but I think having the vets in there seems counter to an envoirnment that encourages risk taking. But I could be way off base and at the end of the game there could be some feedback from the players about what they thought having some rather experienced players in the game.


I agree, it probably does impact risk taking. But, I think you get to see some players execute basic tactics and explain a lot of little things. So, I think you learn a lot faster.

The mafia boards have the newbie games setup requiring a certain number of players with a set number of games as vets to show the new guys the ropes. But they also appear to be pretty picky about etiquette and appear to get annoyed when newbies goof up.

Personally I enjoyed playing with some experienced players and learning versus reading through older games. But I can see the appeal either way.

Raven Hawk 10-05-2006 10:56 PM

Although I've never played, I'd be interested in some historical stats:

Which side won and which round, who was on the winner's side, etc . . .

Swaggs 10-05-2006 11:42 PM

I'd be interested to hear how many I have played in. I would guess around 8-10...

saldana 10-06-2006 01:37 AM

big thanks to grammaticus for taking the time to compile this...hope you dont mind that i made a few cosmetic changes to make it easier to post.

The Official FOFC Leaderboard, brought to you by Grammaticus

any ideas on improving the layout or presentation, let me know, i host this on my own site, so can change anything at any time

saldana 10-06-2006 01:46 AM

dola, the one question i have Gram, is when the F#&* did skydog play a WW game!!!!!!!111!!1!!11

Poli 10-06-2006 02:10 AM

Skydog??

Poli 10-06-2006 02:11 AM

I see at least 10 games I should have been involved in. Friggin Navy.

Blade6119 10-06-2006 02:12 AM

he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played

Blade6119 10-06-2006 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1266467)
I see at least 10 games I should have been involved in. Friggin Navy.


If you had you would be tied with me for the lead...thats just not acceptable. Its mine, my title, my preccciousss

Poli 10-06-2006 02:22 AM

Thank goodness. All is right in the world.

Abe Sargent 10-06-2006 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1266468)
he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played



Yup, that was me!

Thomkal 10-06-2006 05:38 AM

Love the Chart Saldana. And of course thanks to Gram for compiling the list I should be marked down for Animal Farm too since I came in as a replacement. Giving me a grand total of 3 games, woohoo.

Grammaticus 10-06-2006 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1266468)
he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played


I thought this was the case. I believe it was Anxiety's game and both Anxiety and Skydog were listed in the players roster on the first post. Both Anxiety and Skydog were killed on night zero. Since I did not read through the thread, I listed the game for Skydog and not Anxiety (since he was the GM and obviously not a player). Since it was the only game he listed, I didn't have too much concern listing him. Feel free to delete him, now that we have clarification.

Alan T 10-06-2006 11:34 AM

Hehe cool chart, I actually have played in 12 games since I joined the Spawn II game on the second day i think or so. Alot of those games I actually totally forgot about :)

Swaggs 10-06-2006 03:02 PM

Thanks Gramm--very cool.

I have been in 12 games. I played in 5 of the first 9 and then didn't play again until Game #22.

SnDvls 10-07-2006 10:19 AM

wow I played in 20 games!!

great list thanks

SnDvls 11-02-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1266457)
big thanks to grammaticus for taking the time to compile this...hope you dont mind that i made a few cosmetic changes to make it easier to post.

The Official FOFC Leaderboard, brought to you by Grammaticus

any ideas on improving the layout or presentation, let me know, i host this on my own site, so can change anything at any time



bump

SnDvls 02-21-2008 06:56 PM

has anyone updated this or do we need some work on it?

Barkeep49 02-21-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1665355)
has anyone updated this or do we need some work on it?

Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.

SnDvls 02-21-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1665531)
Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.


I didn't do the original, but where on the wiki can it be found

SnDvls 02-21-2008 09:03 PM

dola - so I can help update it & keep it up to date/improve it.

Neon_Chaos 02-22-2008 05:14 AM

Never knew I hosted the most games. :)

I think I've hosted more than I've played, actually. Heh.

Can't wait to host another one.... only several more people in front of me.

saldana 02-22-2008 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1665531)
Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.


gramatticus compiled all the data, and i formatted the spreadsheet/prepared the webpage...i still have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested in using it to update the Wiki Page.

Neon_Chaos 02-22-2008 06:17 AM

Taken from the Wiki

http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.p...Werewolf_Games

Peregrine has hosted 8 games.
I have hosted 6 games.

Peregrine and myself were pretty much the de-facto hosts in the early days (months? :) ) of Werewolf. Out of the first 17 games, Peregrine hosted 6, and I hosted 5.

I dropped off for a couple of years before hosting my recent game, Beneath The Iron Cross.

Alan T 02-22-2008 06:22 AM

My upcoming game will be my 6th hosted game as well, but I'm guessing Barkeep or a couple others are probably up to 7th or 8th as well now.

Barkeep49 02-22-2008 06:36 AM

I've hosted 9 Large games and 2 or 3 small ones.

SnDvls 02-22-2008 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1665743)
gramatticus compiled all the data, and i formatted the spreadsheet/prepared the webpage...i still have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested in using it to update the Wiki Page.


I have this, but it's about 20 or so games short of complete, but this is what needs to go up on the Wiki page yes


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