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tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:09 PM

Ding, Dong, The Yankees are dead
 
Time for George to go on another head-hunting spree.

DaddyTorgo 10-07-2006 06:12 PM

that's really hot.

money can't buy you everything i guess

jeff061 10-07-2006 06:17 PM

I think George has crossed into the realms of the senile. I don't think he's still capable of what earned him his reputation.

It'd be more fun to mock the Yankees right now if I wasn't a Red Sox fan. There's a catch-22 for you.

CraigSca 10-07-2006 06:20 PM

Does Torre leave and get replaced with Girardi?

JeeberD 10-07-2006 06:21 PM

Way to go Tigres!

Logan 10-07-2006 06:24 PM

Posada just hit a 2 run HR.

I hope to god this thread doesn't have to be deleted.

Logan 10-07-2006 06:25 PM

That guy who wanting a kiss from Leyland might've been the greatest thing I've ever seen.

vtbub 10-07-2006 06:26 PM

BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

My condolences to my friends who are Yankee fans,

JeeberD 10-07-2006 06:26 PM

Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...

sterlingice 10-07-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1267608)
BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!


I hate that braying jackass who calls Yankee games

SI

Schmidty 10-07-2006 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 1267609)
Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...


WTF???

We fans (and the players) DESERVE to celebrate this. It's been 19 fucking years since we even made it to the playoffs. I hope the Tigers, and the fans, have a huge party tonight.

I only wish my trip hadn't been delayed until monday, so I could be there right now.....

Warhammer 10-07-2006 06:31 PM

There are few teams that I enjoy watching lose more than the Yankees, Tennessee football is the only thing that comes to mind.

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:32 PM

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

Rizon 10-07-2006 06:33 PM

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:35 PM

Is Detroit going to be the feel good team this season?

Wasabiak 10-07-2006 06:35 PM

I love sports. Look at Kenny Rogers.........That is what it's all about right there.

Sincerely,

A Twins fan

sterlingice 10-07-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky (Post 1267624)
Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?


That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

st.cronin 10-07-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon (Post 1267625)
I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.


Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1267644)
That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI


This is true.


Now I'm hoping for a really good series with the Tigers and A's.

DaddyTorgo 10-07-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon (Post 1267625)
I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.


what if they played a team of child-rapists?

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1267647)
Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.


Maybe Bonds will become a Yankee, then you wouldn't need worrying about cheering.

Greyroofoo 10-07-2006 06:56 PM

I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1267659)
what if they played a team of child-rapists?


Since child-rapists are the lowest-of-lows, I'd have to willing root for the Yankees.

tucker rocky 10-07-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo (Post 1267662)
I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.


Hopefully he'll be biased.

Wasabiak 10-07-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1267659)
what if they played a team of child-rapists?


Depends on where John Mark Karr is batting.

SFL Cat 10-07-2006 07:11 PM

How about a team of Mark Foleys?

Wasabiak 10-07-2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1267680)
How about a team of Mark Foleys?


How about a team of catholic priests? I think I would root for the catholic priests..........

Booo Yankees.......Hoorey Jim Beam!!!!

gottimd 10-07-2006 07:14 PM

Nothing makes my day more than a Yankees loss. Ok, there are a lot of other things that would make my day better, but I sure as hell love it when they lose.

Toddzilla 10-07-2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon (Post 1267625)
I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.

TroyF 10-07-2006 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1267644)
That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI


You could make a case that this years Tigers team is built more outside the system than those Yankee championship teams. They did get players and sometimes stars to fill in. . . but Jeter, Pettite, Rivera, Williams, and Posada among others were homegrown players. And those made up a large majority of the core.

Still, there is no doubt to the answer to the question above. The Yankees will continue to try and raid other rosters. We've already heard about the Soriano speculation floating around. I'd be a large sum of cash that they'll spend big to upgrade the bullpen.

I don't care really, I'm just thrilled to see them lose.

bulletsponge 10-07-2006 07:23 PM

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while

TroyF 10-07-2006 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 1267702)
how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while



The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.

st.cronin 10-07-2006 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 1267702)
how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while


Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.

st.cronin 10-07-2006 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 1267693)
If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.


:D

I love this post.

bulletsponge 10-07-2006 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 1267709)
The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.


Quote:

Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.


wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true

bosshogg23 10-07-2006 07:30 PM

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

DaddyTorgo 10-07-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1267718)
The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.


bonderman too, right?

bosshogg23 10-07-2006 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1267727)
bonderman too, right?


Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.

JeeberD 10-07-2006 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1267718)
The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.


Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?

bosshogg23 10-07-2006 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 1267738)
Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?


Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth ;)

spleen1015 10-07-2006 07:48 PM

This makes is a successful baseball season.

The Curse of Mike Mussina continues!

molson 10-07-2006 07:58 PM

I'm pretty psyched for the Tigers fans who have been there all along - since '87 and '84 at least. This must be an amazing day.

JeeberD 10-07-2006 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1267749)
Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth ;)


I guess I got confused with all those damn trades... :D

DeToxRox 10-07-2006 08:27 PM

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

bosshogg23 10-07-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle (Post 1267781)
I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.


Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.

DeToxRox 10-07-2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1267782)
Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.


Yup. I stayed over an hour after the game ended. It was just insane. Seeing Grilli and Casey spray the fans with champaigne, seeing Zumaya run after a Horse with the bubbly. It was just so much fun.

DaddyTorgo 10-07-2006 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosshogg23 (Post 1267731)
Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.


but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

sterlingice 10-07-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 1267768)
I guess I got confused with all those damn trades... :D


So he's not part of the Padres, Tigers, Astros timeshare group? ;)

SI

sterlingice 10-07-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 1267714)
wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true


Scary, huh?

SI

bosshogg23 10-07-2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1267794)
but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?


I think he was in A Ball but im not positive.

I agree that homegrown can = players that achieve their first big league appearance with a club.

Most of the time homegrown = drafted players though. I think that kinda sucks because it discounts all trades teams make when they are selling near July 31.


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