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samifan24 10-29-2006 09:41 AM

FOF2007 in XP on a Dual-Boot Mac?
 
I see from Solecismic's site that FOF2007 will not work in Mac OSX, but has anyone tried downloading and running the demo in XP on a dual-boot Mac? Would the licensing software support this?

nilodor 10-29-2006 11:23 AM

I'm currently running the game in XP on my macbook so provided you're asking about using it on XP with bootcamp.

Tekneek 10-29-2006 11:35 AM

XP is XP. If the hardware can run the OS, it should be able to run FOF2007. I don't think Jim has released a game that requires more than the minimum OS requirements.

samifan24 10-29-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nilodor (Post 1288252)
I'm currently running the game in XP on my macbook so provided you're asking about using it on XP with bootcamp.


Yes, so you *can* play the game in XP via bootcamp. I noticed that you cannot play the game in Parallels so I asked.

Tekneek 10-29-2006 01:31 PM

Parallels is a virtual machine, right?

Barkeep49 10-29-2006 02:01 PM

Just to back it up I am using it on a bootcamp powerbook as well with no issues. I mean the whole thing about bootcamp is that you are running windows just like any other windows on any other hardware.

samifan24 10-29-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek (Post 1288427)
Parallels is a virtual machine, right?


Yes and one that you can use from within Mac OSX.

samifan24 10-29-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1288468)
Just to back it up I am using it on a bootcamp powerbook as well with no issues. I mean the whole thing about bootcamp is that you are running windows just like any other windows on any other hardware.


Good to know because I will be purchasing a MacBook in the Spring after Leopard is released and I want to see what games I can run natively in Mac OSX (FM, for example) and which I could run in XP (FOF).

Tekneek 10-30-2006 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 1288547)
Yes and one that you can use from within Mac OSX.


Yeah, but not everything works in a virtual machine 'sandbox' environment. I sometimes forget that it isn't really running on the hardware and isn't that different than when I have played with vmware or virtualpc.

Daimyo 10-30-2006 10:48 AM

FOF 2007 runs just fine in VMWare so I imagine it would work in Parallels.

sjshaw 10-30-2006 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 1288416)
Yes, so you *can* play the game in XP via bootcamp. I noticed that you cannot play the game in Parallels so I asked.


The FOF 2007 demo works fine for me in Parallels.

PSUColonel 10-30-2006 08:36 PM

I have a mac, but would like to play FOF, so I guess I'll need to figure out how to use bootcamp. I downloaded it, and have a new version of Windows XP here. What I would appreciate from someone, is step by step instructions on how I should do this. I am just not sure. Thanks

Barkeep49 10-30-2006 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel (Post 1290391)
I have a mac, but would like to play FOF, so I guess I'll need to figure out how to use bootcamp. I downloaded it, and have a new version of Windows XP here. What I would appreciate from someone, is step by step instructions on how I should do this. I am just not sure. Thanks

The official guide is here: http://images.apple.com/macosx/bootc...p_Guide_en.pdf

Simple version:
1. Download bootcamp
2. Install bootcamp
3. Run bootcamp
4. Choose how much hard drive space to give to windows.
5. Restart with windows CD in
6. Follow windows installation instructions
7. When restarting hold down the option key to change which HD to boot up

I never read the insallation guide and found it as simple as it could be.

samifan24 10-30-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sjshaw (Post 1290085)
The FOF 2007 demo works fine for me in Parallels.


I stand corrected. Jim's site says Virtual PC cannot support the game but it makes no mention of Parallels.

dbd1963 10-31-2006 09:19 AM

FOF 2007 works in Parallels, though it suffers from slowdowns during screen redraws. It won't be optimal because Parallels only uses one of the cores while Mac controls the other.

Also, depending on how big the game gets as it accumulates data, you might run over the limit you set in your virtual machine. I didn't make mine real big so I'm waiting to see if I run into that problem.

sjshaw 10-31-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dbd1963 (Post 1290882)
FOF 2007 works in Parallels, though it suffers from slowdowns during screen redraws. It won't be optimal because Parallels only uses one of the cores while Mac controls the other.

Also, depending on how big the game gets as it accumulates data, you might run over the limit you set in your virtual machine. I didn't make mine real big so I'm waiting to see if I run into that problem.


1. I have never noticed any slowdowns with basic 2D graphics like those in FOF. The use of 1 core for basic 2D virtualization is meaningless because it takes so little CPU power that giving it 2 cores would be way more than it needs. Now, if you're running at a high resolution, or doing video, or trying run 2D AutoCAD stuff, then there are slowdowns. Perhaps you haven't installed the Parallels Tools that enhance the graphics capabilities, among other things, or your RAM setting is not optimal. You can try configuring 32bpp mode resolution - it is fastest in Parallels because it goes directly from guest video memory without conversion (according to their support team).

2. You can create an expanding image for your VM so you don't run out of space thanks to an arbitrary limit. Also, you can resize your VM per instructions at their support forum.

hxxp://forums.parallels.com

dbd1963 10-31-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sjshaw (Post 1291393)
1. I have never noticed any slowdowns with basic 2D graphics like those in FOF. The use of 1 core for basic 2D virtualization is meaningless because it takes so little CPU power that giving it 2 cores would be way more than it needs. Now, if you're running at a high resolution, or doing video, or trying run 2D AutoCAD stuff, then there are slowdowns. Perhaps you haven't installed the Parallels Tools that enhance the graphics capabilities, among other things, or your RAM setting is not optimal. You can try configuring 32bpp mode resolution - it is fastest in Parallels because it goes directly from guest video memory without conversion (according to their support team).

2. You can create an expanding image for your VM so you don't run out of space thanks to an arbitrary limit. Also, you can resize your VM per instructions at their support forum.

hxxp://forums.parallels.com


1. Ok, for whatever reason, the game slows down during redraws on my MacBook Pro. I have the tools installed.

2. I think you are right about this point on second thought.

Daimyo 10-31-2006 06:43 PM

Assuming you're talking about when you click the next button on player pages, the game slows down during redraws in Windows XP too.


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