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Deattribution 11-20-2006 02:40 PM

Kramer goes crazy
 
There's a video of it currently on TMZ, obviously due the language it's NSFW. I have no idea what the guy said to him, but wow....

Quote:

"Kramer's" Racist Tirade -- Caught on Tape
Posted Nov 20th 2006 8:30AM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Train Wrecks

WARNING: WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE IS PROFANE AND RACIAL

Michael Richards exploded in anger as he performed at a famous L.A. comedy club last Friday, hurling racial epithets that left the crowd gasping, and TMZ has obtained exclusive video of the ugly incident.

Richards, who played the wacky Cosmo Kramer on the hit TV show "Seinfeld," appeared onstage at the Laugh Factory in West Hollywood. Kyle Doss, an African-American, told TMZ he and some friends were in the cheap seats and he was playfully heckling Richards when suddenly, the comedian lost it.

The camera started rolling just as Richards began his attack, screaming at one of the men, "Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f***ing fork up your ass."

Richards continued, "You can talk, you can talk, you're brave now motherf**ker. Throw his ass out. He's a nigger! He's a nigger! He's a nigger! A nigger, look, there's a nigger!"

The crowd is visibly and audibly confused and upset. Richards responds by saying, "They're going to arrest me for calling a black man a nigger."

One of the men who was the object of Richard's tirade was outraged, shouting back "That's un-f***ing called for, ain't necessary."

After the three-minute tirade, it appears the majority of the audience members got up and left in disgust.

Attempts to reach Richards' reps were unsuccessful.


Pumpy Tudors 11-20-2006 02:41 PM

So, um, what's TMZ?

MizzouRah 11-20-2006 02:42 PM

Watched this earlier. Surprised he didn't get a butt whoopin.

Kodos 11-20-2006 02:43 PM

There's no shortage of idiots.

Bubba Wheels 11-20-2006 02:43 PM

"Please welcome our newest member to the Mel Gibson club!"

I see an awesome SNL coming...

Deattribution 11-20-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1312099)
So, um, what's TMZ?


Hah, honestly I wasn't sure how SFW tmz .com was, since I never frequent it (was sent the link) so I just put the name of the site up there. It seems like it's some kind of AOL news site.

rowech 11-20-2006 02:44 PM

At first I thought he was joking but man did he lose it.

wade moore 11-20-2006 02:45 PM

Just watched the video.

Wow.

If it's possible, I think it may come off worse in the video than it does in this article.

rkmsuf 11-20-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1312106)
Just watched the video.

Wow.

If it's possible, I think it may come off worse in the video than it does in this article.


yeah he lost it. i love how in the article I read that the Laugh Factory put him out there the next night "without incident".

also one article had Seinfeld commenting which came off to me as jerry being a pretentious bore. just shut up seinfeld about it.

albionmoonlight 11-20-2006 02:48 PM

This could really hurt his post-Seinfeld acting career.

wade moore 11-20-2006 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 1312111)
This could really hurt his post-Seinfeld acting career.


I was actually thinking the opposite ;)...

stevew 11-20-2006 02:55 PM

I can never seem to access tmz's video clips. I get some sort of conflict error, and it won't play, something about return portable media to it's location. I am using ie 7

heybrad 11-20-2006 02:56 PM

I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?

rkmsuf 11-20-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad (Post 1312116)
I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?


From the untrained eye it didn't appear so.

wade moore 11-20-2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf (Post 1312118)
From the untrained eye it didn't appear so.


At FIRST it seemed like maybe it was not so bad, but then he goes on and on...

I mean, I suppose it could be some crazy Andy Kaufmanesque stage.. but it's a damned stupid one if so...

LionsFan10 11-20-2006 02:59 PM

Haha, good. Everybody who thought Michael Richards was acting crazy and or stupid on the show can now see that this man is insane. The fact that he didn't have his ass kicked outside the venue is amazing to me, because he certainly deserved it.

God I hated "Seinfeld."

rkmsuf 11-20-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1312121)
At FIRST it seemed like maybe it was not so bad, but then he goes on and on...

I mean, I suppose it could be some crazy Andy Kaufmanesque stage.. but it's a damned stupid one if so...


seems like an odd thing to stage. would have made more sense if the guys charged the stage and beat him up or something.

although it's a little odd that this performance was being filmed...seems like they wouldn't allow that and it's only on this one aol site.

no idea. at face value he freaked out. otherwise if staged he's known as a dink now. maybe there is some kind of dink project being put together. doesn't seem like him though.

wade moore 11-20-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf (Post 1312129)
seems like an odd thing to stage. would have made more sense if the guys charged the stage and beat him up or something.

although it's a little odd that this performance was being filmed...seems like they wouldn't allow that and it's only on this one aol site.

no idea. at face value he freaked out. otherwise if staged he's known as a dink now. maybe there is some kind of dink project being put together. doesn't seem like him though.


The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...

rkmsuf 11-20-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1312132)
The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...


maybe that's the genius of it

Bubba Wheels 11-20-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad (Post 1312116)
I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?


Maybe, seems more controlled upon viewing than when I first heard. And Chris Rock does use the word in his act...so what exactly are the rules for that?

Kodos 11-20-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1312132)
The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...


Jerry must have snuck in a camera.

KevinNU7 11-20-2006 03:12 PM

CNN News Story is on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcz9T3MuL4

Pumpy Tudors 11-20-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312136)
And Chris Rock does use the word in his act...so what exactly are the rules for that?

Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.

KevinNU7 11-20-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1312142)
Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.

No kidding. If Chris Rock talked about lynching hecklers I don't think it would go over too well either.

Subby 11-20-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LionsFan10 (Post 1312122)
God I hated "Seinfeld."


I don't have many litmus tests, but...

stevew 11-20-2006 03:19 PM

As far as I know, Chris Rock has never said that he has enough money to get someone arrested either.

Bubba Wheels 11-20-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1312142)
Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.


I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

JonInMiddleGA 11-20-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312136)
... so what exactly are the rules for that?


I think this Paul Rodriguez quote pretty well sums up the rules:
"Once the word comes out of your mouth and you don't happen to be African-American, then you have a whole lot of explaining,"

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8LH0G1O1.html

JeffNights 11-20-2006 03:26 PM

I thought it was fucking hilarious, how can you not see the humor here?

Pumpy Tudors 11-20-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312153)
I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

I think this might be a debatable issue if Michael Richards were using the word in his act. This was not his act.

Subby 11-20-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312153)
I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...

JonInMiddleGA 11-20-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1312159)
Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...


Well, Piscopo is (allegedly) a comic, so it would stand to reason that he could have legitimate insight on the subject from a comedian's p.o.v.

Maple Leafs 11-20-2006 03:59 PM

In fairness, Richards spent most of his career working on NBC Must-See Thursday nights. These were probably the first black people he'd ever seen.

Pumpy Tudors 11-20-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1312170)
In fairness, Richards spent most of his career working on NBC Must-See Thursday nights. These were probably the first black people he'd ever seen.

Gold.

Bubba Wheels 11-20-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1312159)
Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...


Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

I'll also add, other than the indefensible use of the 'n' word, Richard's comments were not really much different than those I have heard on one show in particular (since cancelled) called 'Tough Crowd' with Colin Quinn.

Subby 11-20-2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312186)
Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime... :D

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

Bubba Wheels 11-20-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1312190)
You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime... :D

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.


Right, like...Andy Kauffman. Not disagreeing with you, just making a point.

If I had the ambition, I would have a runoff poll on comedians like the one with war movies. And I would watch an entire episode of 'Friends' if either Adam Sandler, Jack Black or Will Ferrell made it into the final four.

stevew 11-20-2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1312190)
You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime... :D

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.


I liked the Silverman flick, just thought it was a bit too short maybe.

MylesKnight 11-20-2006 04:43 PM

Well you can give Michael Richards this much, he doesn't hide his feelings.

Quite a stand up guy.. What he's standing up for is the question though.

heybrad 11-20-2006 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1312190)
You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime... :D

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

Lisa Lamponelli illustrates your point.

Pumpy Tudors 11-20-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels (Post 1312186)
Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

While this is an interesting (and way-too-often debated) point, I have yet to find the "joke" in this whole Michael Richards thing. I don't see how it's possible to compare this to another comedian's act. It seems more fair to compare it to a guy standing on a street corner and yelling at strangers.

Schmidty 11-20-2006 05:18 PM

Although I think using the n-word is in bad taste, people are way over the top in their sensitivity toward it; HOWEVER, the fact that he mentioned lynching was absolutely horrific. I really hope he was trying to be Kauffman-esque and doesn't truly hold that much hate in his heart.

Maple Leafs 11-20-2006 05:40 PM

Here it is on Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjE0E5lgm9Q

You guys were right, it's even worse than the article makes it sound.

ctmason 11-20-2006 05:45 PM

This just in, KKK leaders react, calling "The Michael Richards Show," a "funny piece of progressive television that was clearly before its time."

Karlifornia 11-20-2006 05:48 PM

Jackie Chiles will be crushed when he hears the news.

illinifan999 11-20-2006 05:57 PM

I like how the guys response is to call him a cracker-ass and a fucking white boy. Fire with fire.

Joe 11-20-2006 06:02 PM

Seinfeld is on Letterman tonight.. and Richards will be apologizing via satellite.

MizzouRah 11-20-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999 (Post 1312253)
I like how the guys response is to call him a cracker-ass and a fucking white boy. Fire with fire.


Pumpy called me that once... but also added, "country hick" and something about "go plow a field".

stevew 11-20-2006 06:17 PM

Seems hella staged. But it also sounds as if he has hate in his heart, so who knows. Definately has way too much "ger" instead of "gah."

stevew 11-20-2006 06:22 PM

I was also waiting for him to say he was going to "unleash the fucking fury" too.


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