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Kodos 01-02-2007 06:32 PM

Ping: Nick Saban
 
Leave.

Thank you.

spleen1015 01-02-2007 08:16 PM

I think he will.

Raiders Army 01-02-2007 08:30 PM

Yep yep.

kcchief19 01-02-2007 08:33 PM

You know, it's wishing to get rid of a coach who hasn't really done anything wrong yet that usually means you get stuck with Denny Green, Jim Mora Jr. or a son of a Shula.

Rizon 01-02-2007 08:33 PM

NO.

Kodos 01-02-2007 10:17 PM

He hasn't done a thing to improve the Dolphins, and now he has shown his loyalty and his word are worth nothing. Screw him. Bye bye.

Vinatieri for Prez 01-03-2007 12:41 AM

I don't blame a guy one bit to "think over" whether to accept or turn down a guaranteed $40 million or so. Apparently, Huizenga is ok with it after talking with him. I mean come on, really.

dawgfan 01-03-2007 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19 (Post 1347019)
You know, it's wishing to get rid of a coach who hasn't really done anything wrong yet that usually means you get stuck with Denny Green, Jim Mora Jr. or a son of a Shula.

FWIW, Denny Green has a career NFL record of 113-94 (.546) and Mora the younger 26-22 (.542). Not saying that necessarily makes them great or even good coaches, but still - a winning record is a winning record. You could do a lot worse than either of those guys...

stevew 01-03-2007 05:18 AM

Rich Kotite is available

Ksyrup 01-03-2007 06:46 AM

Art Shell still has a winning record as a head coach.

Butter 01-03-2007 06:58 AM

Kodos, you don't even like the Dolphins any more so just hush up.

Julio Riddols 01-03-2007 07:16 AM

Take Madden out of the booth and put his ass on the sidelines.

ISiddiqui 01-03-2007 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1347115)
He hasn't done a thing to improve the Dolphins, and now he has shown his loyalty and his word are worth nothing. Screw him. Bye bye.


"Now" he has shown his loyalty and word are worth nothing? "Now"? Where have you been? Saban's loyalty and word were nothing when you hired him.

Ksyrup 01-03-2007 07:40 AM

About 3 months ago, a friend of mine in Tally said that a buddy of his who is in radio in Pensacola and has the same agent as Saban had mentioned to him that his agent told him that Saban was interested in the FSU job if it came open because he hated the pro game and wanted to get back to college. Looks like he was right, and he's just taking the best available gig to get back into the college game. I hope that when Bobby retires, he makes sure someone worthy of replacing him is willing and able to make the move. I don't want no frickin' Ron Zook!

Butter 01-03-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1347259)
I hope that when Bobby retires, he makes sure someone worthy of replacing him is willing and able to make the move. I don't want no frickin' Ron Zook!


I'm sure his son Terry will be ready to get back into coaching by then.

Ksyrup 01-03-2007 07:43 AM

No, they've been saying for years that none of his kids are interested in replacing him, and he wouldn't want them to. And we wouldn't want them to, either.

Passacaglia 01-03-2007 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1347256)
"Now" he has shown his loyalty and word are worth nothing? "Now"? Where have you been? Saban's loyalty and word were nothing when you hired him.


Word. He showed that YEARS ago in East Lansing.

Ksyrup 01-03-2007 09:50 AM

Almost an hour past the deadline, and news hasn't broken yet? I'm surprised.

Bee 01-03-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1347364)
Almost an hour past the deadline, and news hasn't broken yet? I'm surprised.


He's gone.

Kodos 01-03-2007 10:12 AM

Adam Schefter says he has accepted the job in Alabama.


Asshat. Good riddance.

cschex 01-03-2007 10:14 AM

Enjoy your 7-6 seasons, Nick.

Seriously, I'm just bitter he's back in the SEC West and we're stuck with Les F***ing Miles.

Butter 01-03-2007 10:16 AM

That's going to be a bitch of a buyout in about 3 years when he flames out.

st.cronin 01-03-2007 10:18 AM

Regardless of what the haters are going to say, I think this definitely restores some credibility to Alabama.

cschex 01-03-2007 10:21 AM

Yeah, the Bama boosters are some of the most unrealistic with their expectations in all of college sports, IMO. If he doesnt win the SEC within two years and/or a national title within 4, he'll probably be out on his ass. Of course, LSU will have had 4 consecutive "solid" 9-3 seasons under Miles, blowing at least one double digit lead for a loss in each season. I hope like hell I am under-estimating Miles, but he did the same things at OSU before he was here.

Crap. I guess this means Jimbo Fisher is off to Bama as well.

ISiddiqui 01-03-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1347334)
Word. He showed that YEARS ago in East Lansing.


And then with LSU... I mean, it amazes me that people don't see a pattern here.

molson 01-03-2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1347385)
That's going to be a bitch of a buyout in about 3 years when he flames out.


Well, he wasn't going to win any Super Bowls in Miami.

He likes college coaching better, he's better at it, and he'll be making more money. Ya, what an asshole.

kurtism 01-03-2007 10:28 AM

Ping: Nick Saban

Larry Brown called, he wants his career path back.

wade moore 01-03-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1347402)
Well, he wasn't going to win any Super Bowls in Miami.

He likes college coaching better, he's better at it, and he'll be making more money. Ya, what an asshole.


I can see defending the guy if Miami was the first time he's done this, but like others have said, he's really making a career of it.

Oh, and as Vols fan, this is not good news. The SEC really has a lot of good coaches right now.

spleen1015 01-03-2007 10:38 AM

I kind of wish I was still living in Montgomery to see the reaction down there.

KevinNU7 01-03-2007 10:39 AM

I don't see the issue here. Anyone who leaves one team for another for significantly more money I really don't have a problem with at all.

molson 01-03-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1347411)
I can see defending the guy if Miami was the first time he's done this, but like others have said, he's really making a career of it.



Well, he was at both Michigan St. and LSU for 5 years. I suppose that's not an idea length of time, since most of your recruits end up playing for someone else, but how long is enough? 10 years?

Eaglesfan27 01-03-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1347402)
Well, he wasn't going to win any Super Bowls in Miami.

He likes college coaching better, he's better at it, and he'll be making more money. Ya, what an asshole.



That is fine, but he never should have categorically denied that he would take the Alabama job. Not now. Not in 5 years.

cschex 01-03-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1347423)
Well, he was at both Michigan St. and LSU for 5 years. I suppose that's not an idea length of time, since most of your recruits end up playing for someone else, but how long is enough? 10 years?


Agree with this. As a Tiger alum I had no problem with him leaving for the Dolphins because it was only a matter of time and he wanted to try his hand in the pros. My anger and chagrin is the fact that LSU couldn't/wouldn't get a decent coach to replace him and are now stuck with Mr. "Aw Shucks." Also, knowing that Saban will be on the Bama sideline adds another SEC team with a far superior game coach than LSU.

Desnudo 01-03-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1347115)
He hasn't done a thing to improve the Dolphins, and now he has shown his loyalty and his word are worth nothing. Screw him. Bye bye.


Yes, but who are they going to replace him with? Retro-Don Shula?

Butter 01-03-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1347429)
That is fine, but he never should have categorically denied that he would take the Alabama job. Not now. Not in 5 years.


Right. I think that is the issue. This will be a good recruiting tool to use against him... that and the whole "happy feet" thing.

Poli 01-03-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1346909)
Leave.

Thank you.


Best part? Bama thinks they're getting a great deal.

Ksyrup 01-03-2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cschex (Post 1347392)
Crap. I guess this means Jimbo Fisher is off to Bama as well.



Um...I think FSU fans should be more upset than LSU fans about this news. Fisher was likely gone from LSU anyhow, but now the chances of him ending up in Tallahassee have diminished. FSU also is looking to steal WVU's OL coach, who is good friends with Fisher. I hope we get at least one, if not both, of them.

jbmagic 01-03-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7 (Post 1347419)
I don't see the issue here. Anyone who leaves one team for another for significantly more money I really don't have a problem with at all.


You don't?

He has a contract that he sign with Miami.

st.cronin 01-03-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1347440)
Best part? Bama thinks they're getting a great deal.


No doubt Nick Saban is a good coach, but he's no ardent enthusiast.

TroyF 01-03-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1347429)
That is fine, but he never should have categorically denied that he would take the Alabama job. Not now. Not in 5 years.


Exactly. Waffle if you want, but to state repeatedly that you aren't taking the job and then deciding on it anyway makes you a prick. I wish nothing but failure for him and the Alabama program.

albionmoonlight 01-03-2007 11:10 AM

Wow. He came to the Dolphins. Made sure that they traded for Culpepper instead of signing Brees for nothing. Then left.

Matt Millen and Isiah Thomas are jealous.

stevew 01-03-2007 11:12 AM

you can say that 5 more times.

molson 01-03-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1347429)
That is fine, but he never should have categorically denied that he would take the Alabama job. Not now. Not in 5 years.


I don't know how well it goes over if a head coach is asked if he's considering another job and says, "ya, I'd be interested." Ask Jim Mora.

Maybe he could say "no comment". In a practical sense though, sports fans and media interpret that as a yes.

John Galt 01-03-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1347462)
you can say that 5 more times.


I enjoyed the way he held us in suspense during the last sentence.

Kodos 01-03-2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 1347446)
I wish nothing but failure for him and the Alabama program.


Agreed 100%.

st.cronin 01-03-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1347463)
I don't know how well it goes over if a head coach is asked if he's considering another job and says, "ya, I'd be interested." Ask Jim Mora.

Maybe he could say "no comment". In a practical sense though, sports fans and media interpret that as a yes.


When a coach is asked about a job that he's actually interested in, but doesn't yet have, he's pretty much fucked whatever he says.

bulletsponge 01-03-2007 11:19 AM

when the going gets tough, the wimps run

molson 01-03-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1347471)
When a coach is asked about a job that he's actually interested in, but doesn't yet have, he's pretty much fucked whatever he says.


Same for the rest of us. If I have a job, and am interviewing for another job, I'll lie through my teeth about why I was gone. My current employer knows nothing until I have a done deal. There's a million reasons for this.

cartman 01-03-2007 11:20 AM

Not sure why people are saying it is significantly more money he's getting at 'Bama. If the reports of a 10 year/$40 mil contract are correct, he's going to make $500K less per year than his Miami contract.

albionmoonlight 01-03-2007 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 1347464)
I enjoyed the way he held us in suspense during the last sentence.


On a related note, am I the only one for whom FOFC acts slow/strange.

I've never had something quite as bizzarre as that happen before, but I frequently have to deal with the board being the slowest website that I visit.


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