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EagleFan 01-08-2007 05:20 AM

QB or Coach?
 
I keep hearing about the importance of the quarterback in FOF2007 but I am starting to wonder about that. In the career that I an in, it seems more like the coach has played a larger roll in a team's fate than the QB.

The example that I would bring up would be the most dominant team in my career (as far as titles go, my Eagles are the most dominant in the league in terms of regular season record).

Redskins in their first 4 seasons:
23-41, 0 playoff appearances

Coaching change (same QB as previous regime, for the early part of the run) and then...
- 4 consecutive Conference final appearances in the new coach's first 4 seasons and 1 championship.
- 153-81, 10 playoff appearances in 14 seasons, 6 bowl appearances, 9 confernce finals appearances, 4 championships (3 different QB's) and a 21-6 post season record.
- just 1 losing season in that 14 year span.


I had (sadly he retired) a hall of fame quarterback in Vince Young and they had several good, but far from great quarterbacks (including one who started for just one season and somehow put up incredible numbers though having ratings that looked like he would be lucky to be a backup). They did have one of the top running backs in league's history for the early part of the run, but he was on the team under the first coach too and only 2 of their championships were with him. They had 3 differnet backs since then for no more than a three year span for either and they won one championshipe for 2 of the three, the other they made the bowl with but lost.

perez24 01-08-2007 06:14 AM

I haven't won w/o a decent (i.e. 40+) QB in FOF 2007, but I also think a decent running game is more important too.

Your results were very common for me in previous versions.

Hammer 01-08-2007 07:43 AM

QB all the way for me. I don't find the coach to have much influence. QBs influence is huge. Perhaps we need a Coach study!?

EagleFan 01-08-2007 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perez24 (Post 1351552)
I haven't won w/o a decent (i.e. 40+) QB in FOF 2007


That's different than in real life how?

DougWyatt 01-08-2007 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1351584)
That's different than in real life how?


Trent Dilfer/Tony Banks (12-4 2000 Ravens SB Champs) ... Mark Rypien (14-2 1991 Skins SB Champs) ... Steve Bono (13-3 1995 Chiefs) .. etc. etc.

PS - just answering the question; not saying it doesn't happen in FOF too.

redfox000 01-08-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougWyatt (Post 1351680)
Trent Dilfer/Tony Banks (12-4 2000 Ravens SB Champs) ... Mark Rypien (14-2 1991 Skins SB Champs) ... Steve Bono (13-3 1995 Chiefs) .. etc. etc.

PS - just answering the question; not saying it doesn't happen in FOF too.


13-3 2007 Bears with Grossman.
11-5 2006 Bears with Orton.

EagleFan 01-08-2007 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougWyatt (Post 1351680)

PS - just answering the question; not saying it doesn't happen in FOF too.


I've seen if happen in FOF. I just don't get the claim that QB's are too important in FOF. I just happened to notice that Washington had the same core group of key players from one coach to the next and they went from a 10 loss team to a powerhouse.

If I have enough time on my trip I may do a bit of a test to see how different factors affect the game, such as the coaches. 45 nights with absolutely nothing to do (there is no night life in that area at all) should give me plenty of time for that.


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