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Raiders Army 02-11-2007 11:49 AM

Refrigerating ketchup
 
I was talking to a co-worker on Friday and the subject of refrigerating ketchup came up. I had thought about this a few years ago but hadn't thought of it since. Why is it that we refrigerate ketchup? I mean, in restaurants it sits out all day long. I asked a few people if they refrigerated their ketchup and why. They all said that they did, and it was because their parents did when they were a kid.

After taking a trip to our commissary (supermarket), I checked the bottles of ketchup. None of them said to refrigerate after opening (as I remembered from a few years ago).

Doing a little more research, I found this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wikipedia
In the past, ketchup was produced from fresh tomatoes after harvesting. Vacuum evaporation made it possible to turn tomatoes into a very thick tomato paste that is easy to store at room temperature. This enables a factory to produce ketchup throughout the year.


Also, Heinz's FAQ on their website states:

Quote:

Should ketchup be refrigerated?
Because it is a very acidic product, ketchup does not spoil easily. Once opened, in order to maintain the product's quality more effectively, we do suggest that ketchup (and any other processed food) be refrigerated after opening because refrigeration retards spoilage.

So my conclusion is that while you don't need to refrigerate ketchup, it's recommended. I suppose restaurants don't refrigerate their ketchup because it's used so much that it doesn't get a chance to spoil. Just thought I'd share some musings...

cartman 02-11-2007 11:51 AM

What better, ketchup or catsup?

Ben E Lou 02-11-2007 11:51 AM

I never do. I've had ketchup opened and unrefrigerated for over a month with no problems.

rjolley 02-11-2007 12:02 PM

I don't refrigerate ketchup because I don't want cold condiments cooling off my hot food.

And ketchup is better than catsup.

JonInMiddleGA 02-11-2007 12:03 PM

'Cause it's better cold than room temperature.

Ben E Lou 02-11-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjolley (Post 1389488)
I don't refrigerate ketchup because I don't want cold condiments cooling off my hot food.

That's exactly why I don't.

JPhillips 02-11-2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1389489)
'Cause it's better cold than room temperature.


I've tried to retain civility when dealing with Jon, but this is just too fucking much. Cold? It's better cold? Bullshit. Ketchup is meant to be room temperature, period. I suppose mustard should be cold? What about the salt and pepper shakers. Hell, why don't we grill the hamburgers and then stick them in the freezer for an hour before we eat.

I swear, I knew this country was going down the shithole, but I had no idea folks like you were greasing the way with your cold fucking ketchup.

I hope you get hit by a bus.

kcchief19 02-11-2007 01:14 PM

That was unexpected.

ctmason 02-11-2007 01:15 PM

Into the Sherry a little early, I see.

Raiders Army 02-11-2007 01:24 PM

I really didn't see the thread going in this direction. Hopefully my parody meter is off today.

jeff061 02-11-2007 01:29 PM

I'm quite sure it was a joke playing off how unimportant the subject was. At least sure enough that I didn't think it would need to be explained.

Greyroofoo 02-11-2007 01:37 PM

Gold

Tekneek 02-11-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1389495)
I suppose mustard should be cold?


Storing it in a cool area will help it maintain its flavor, but it is not required.

You're welcome.

Desnudo 02-11-2007 01:44 PM

What about butter?

Flasch186 02-11-2007 01:44 PM

I agree with Jon, tis better cold.

Lorena 02-11-2007 01:46 PM

Ant and I were just discussing this; I wonder if glass bottled ketchup is okay if not refrigerated? I checked our ketchup and mustard and they both say "refrigerate after opening".

Tekneek 02-11-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 1389526)
What about butter?


More than you wanted to know...

Storage: Storing butter properly, lengthens the shelf life so it can be used over a longer period of time. To prevent a type of spoilage called rancidity, protect butter from heat, light and air by storing it covered in the refrigerator. Rancid butter has an unpleasant taste and smell.

Butter absorbs odors from other foods rapidly. To prevent flavor changes, keep butter wrapped in moisture- and vapor-proof material or in tightly covered containers. For refrigerator storage, leave butter in its original wrapper. Opened portions of butter should be refrigerated in a covered dish.

Butter can be stored for up to two weeks at refrigerator temperatures (below 40 °F). Higher temperatures cause off-flavors and unpleasant odors to develop. Butter should not be stored in the butter keeper (set at warmer temperatures) on the refrigerator door longer than two days. For ease in spreading, remove butter from the refrigerator 10 to 15 minutes before using it.

For holding longer than two weeks, butter should be frozen. To store butter in the freezer, wrap it in moisture- and vapor-proof freezer packaging material to keep the butter from absorbing odors from other foods and to prevent freezer burn. Butter in its original carton can be over-wrapped. Butter in one-pound blocks can be cut into smaller portions, repackaged and frozen for future use. If properly wrapped and held at 0 °F or lower, butter will keep well in the freezer for six to nine months. Thaw butter in the refrigerator.

Lorena 02-11-2007 01:47 PM

dola,

if you notice when you go to a restaurant, the ketchup is in glass bottled containers and always left out.

Desnudo 02-11-2007 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekneek (Post 1389529)
More than you wanted to know...

Storage: Storing butter properly, lengthens the shelf life so it can be used over a longer period of time. To prevent a type of spoilage called rancidity, protect butter from heat, light and air by storing it covered in the refrigerator. Rancid butter has an unpleasant taste and smell.

Butter absorbs odors from other foods rapidly. To prevent flavor changes, keep butter wrapped in moisture- and vapor-proof material or in tightly covered containers. For refrigerator storage, leave butter in its original wrapper. Opened portions of butter should be refrigerated in a covered dish.

Butter can be stored for up to two weeks at refrigerator temperatures (below 40 °F). Higher temperatures cause off-flavors and unpleasant odors to develop. Butter should not be stored in the butter keeper (set at warmer temperatures) on the refrigerator door longer than two days. For ease in spreading, remove butter from the refrigerator 10 to 15 minutes before using it.

For holding longer than two weeks, butter should be frozen. To store butter in the freezer, wrap it in moisture- and vapor-proof freezer packaging material to keep the butter from absorbing odors from other foods and to prevent freezer burn. Butter in its original carton can be over-wrapped. Butter in one-pound blocks can be cut into smaller portions, repackaged and frozen for future use. If properly wrapped and held at 0 °F or lower, butter will keep well in the freezer for six to nine months. Thaw butter in the refrigerator.


Who wrote that? The anal retentive chef?

Tekneek 02-11-2007 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 1389532)
Who wrote that? The anal retentive chef?


This information has been reviewed and adapted for use in South Carolina by P.H. Schmutz, HGIC Information Specialist; D.T. Vines, Extension Dairy Specialist; and E.H. Hoyle, Extension Food Safety Specialist, Clemson University.

This information is supplied with the understanding that no discrimination is intended and no endorsement by the Clemson University Cooperative Extension Service is implied. All recommendations are for South Carolina conditions and may not apply to other areas. (New 2/01).


Oh... Thanks for encouraging me to check out the fine print at the bottom of the page. Turns out these recommendations are only good for South Carolina. :)

Eaglesfan27 02-11-2007 01:56 PM

When we got married, refrigerating ketchup and peanut butter were two of the issues my wife and I had to adjust to. Rather, I had to adjust since she won both arguments (I like to think I was picking my battles.) She insists that we refrigerate ketchup which I don't like because I don't like it cooling off my hot food. However, she is against refrigerating peanut butter which we always did when I was a kid. Anyway, I guess I've got it good if those are two of the bigger adjustments that I remember.

JonInMiddleGA 02-11-2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1389495)
I suppose mustard should be cold?


Of course it should.

F'n moron.

stevew 02-11-2007 02:16 PM

The scary thought, is that a restaurant starts with like 3 cases of ketchup bottles when they open. Then as they use the ketchup up, they combine bottles to fill them, and enter new bottles to the equation. But, however, there is always that distinct possibility that a "pocket" of old ketchup may be passed around, rebottled and rebottled for months to years. Meaning that your favorite joint could have ketchup tainted with Clinton Era opened ketchup.

jeff061 02-11-2007 02:28 PM

I like my ketchup and my mustard cold. I like my salsa for my chips cold too.

I've never considered cold peanut butter, but I suspect I'd enjoy that as well.

JeeberD 02-11-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1389530)
dola,

if you notice when you go to a restaurant, the ketchup is in glass bottled containers and always left out.


The sportsbar I went to last night had plastic bottles that were sitting out all night...

ageofquarrel 02-11-2007 02:45 PM

I hate ketchup anyway, only thing i use it on is steak fries. My theory is cold or hot if you need to put ketchup on something it probably tastes nasty anyway

bbor 02-11-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1389544)
The scary thought, is that a restaurant starts with like 3 cases of ketchup bottles when they open. Then as they use the ketchup up, they combine bottles to fill them, and enter new bottles to the equation. But, however, there is always that distinct possibility that a "pocket" of old ketchup may be passed around, rebottled and rebottled for months to years. Meaning that your favorite joint could have ketchup tainted with Clinton Era opened ketchup.


This is a major reason why a lot of restaraunts use plastic bottles instead of glass.Dumping new ketchup on old ketchup will cause the glass bottle to explode eventually if the process of refilling old bottles goes on too long.

Cringer 02-11-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1389534)
When we got married, refrigerating ketchup and peanut butter were two of the issues my wife and I had to adjust to. Rather, I had to adjust since she won both arguments (I like to think I was picking my battles.) She insists that we refrigerate ketchup which I don't like because I don't like it cooling off my hot food. However, she is against refrigerating peanut butter which we always did when I was a kid. Anyway, I guess I've got it good if those are two of the bigger adjustments that I remember.


You can't refigerate PB! How the heck do you spread it on your bread without ripping it up?

MizzouRah 02-11-2007 03:38 PM

Only a fool doesn't refrigerate ketchup or mustard. What are we in France?

I supposed you folks prefer miracle whip to mayonnaise as well? Maybe some grey poupon to good old fashioned mustard?

MizzouRah 02-11-2007 03:39 PM

btw, Hunt's is the best ketchup!

jeff061 02-11-2007 03:40 PM

It's all about Gulden's spicy brown mustard.

Pyser 02-11-2007 03:57 PM

i think we've now, as a community, officially talked about everything.

terpkristin 02-11-2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1389576)
You can't refigerate PB! How the heck do you spread it on your bread without ripping it up?


I could see (and have done it, actually) refrigerating natural peanut butter. On the chance I have ketchup in the house, I refrigerate it (just what we did when I was growing up), though I rarely use ketchup and don't think I have any around here. Usually if I eat ketchup, I'm putting it on something while eating out--at home for burgers and dogs I tend to use salsa (which I definitely refrigerate).

/tk

Cringer 02-11-2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1389602)
btw, Hunt's is the best ketchup!



I disagree. The best ketchup is Whataburger ketchup.

st.cronin 02-11-2007 04:30 PM

Ketchup is vile stuff. I won't have it in my house.

JonInMiddleGA 02-11-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1389619)
The best ketchup is Whataburger ketchup.


Only if they're using the same stuff that McDonald's uses in the to-go packets.

dawgfan 02-11-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1389601)
Maybe some grey poupon to good old fashioned mustard?

Actually, dijon mustards (such as Grey Poupon) are "old-fashioned" mustards in that they are a much older and more traditional form of mustard than the bright yellow stuff most Americans use.

kcchief19 02-11-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1389601)
I supposed you folks prefer miracle whip to mayonnaise as well? Maybe some grey poupon to good old fashioned mustard?

Sorry to say, Miracle Whip is far superior to mayonnaise. My mom switched to Mircle Whip during my teen years and I wonder where it had been all my life.

As for mustard -- yellower the better. I'm anti-mustard snob -- the cheaper the mustard the better.

MizzouRah 02-11-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19 (Post 1389648)
Sorry to say, Miracle Whip is far superior to mayonnaise. My mom switched to Mircle Whip during my teen years and I wonder where it had been all my life.

As for mustard -- yellower the better. I'm anti-mustard snob -- the cheaper the mustard the better.


Okay, I'll use miracle whip for turkey sandwiches, but for tuna, it HAS to be mayonnaise.

stevew 02-11-2007 05:13 PM

Miracle whip pwns everything. And hunt's sucks, Heinz all the way!!!

cartman 02-11-2007 05:26 PM

A1 Sauce is best. Just make a poll, you see. And it look like AI. :)

lighthousekeeper 02-11-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1389668)
A1 Sauce is best. Just make a poll, you see. And it look like AI. :)

lol

14ers 02-11-2007 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1389534)
However, she is against refrigerating peanut butter which we always did when I was a kid.


You so crazy. Who refrigerates peanut butter?

I can't imagine my Jif being stored in a cold refrigerator.

Antmeister 02-11-2007 05:46 PM

Wow...who knew you could get this much mileage from the topic of ketchup or what some people call catsup.

Anyway, I never refrigerated Peanut Butter until we bought the natural kind. The kind that has that oil rise to the top. Since we are trying to stay away from sugar as much as we can, we decided to go in this route.

Now I refrigerate the peanut butter, jelly, ketchup, mustard and definitley salsa. Actually I pretty much follow what the label tells me how a product should be stored to avoid getting sick.

Eaglesfan27 02-11-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14ers (Post 1389688)
You so crazy. Who refrigerates peanut butter?

I can't imagine my Jif being stored in a cold refrigerator.



It's just what my mom always did when I was a kid, so I didn't know any other way until I moved in with my wife.

MizzouRah 02-11-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1389659)
Miracle whip pwns everything. And hunt's sucks, Heinz all the way!!!


Heinz is only good in the McDonalds packets.

Logan 02-11-2007 06:34 PM

I refrigerate damn near every condiment.

But when one of my college roommates put his peanut butter in the fridge for the first time, it completely freaked me out. And like someone just said...you can't spread the damn thing when it's cold.

RendeR 02-11-2007 06:41 PM

If its not Weber's Mustard, it ain't worth spit.

Weber's is the ONLY mustard for me.

CU Tiger 02-11-2007 08:42 PM

Hunts ketchup in the fridge
Heinz Mustard in the fridge
Duke's Mayo in the fridge
Peter Pan PB not in the fridge

That is all

timmynausea 02-11-2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1389495)
I've tried to retain civility when dealing with Jon, but this is just too fucking much. Cold? It's better cold? Bullshit. Ketchup is meant to be room temperature, period. I suppose mustard should be cold? What about the salt and pepper shakers. Hell, why don't we grill the hamburgers and then stick them in the freezer for an hour before we eat.

I swear, I knew this country was going down the shithole, but I had no idea folks like you were greasing the way with your cold fucking ketchup.

I hope you get hit by a bus.


That was awesome.


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