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SirFozzie 03-19-2007 06:55 PM

Think US Wrestling is too hardcore?
 



Look out Below!

(this is a shot from Japanese Wrestling federation Big Japan Pro Wrestling, who's noted for this kinda stuff on a regular basis. Also, please note.. that's NOT a precut table they're about to land on)

Emiliano 03-19-2007 07:11 PM

Scary.

Lathum 03-19-2007 07:13 PM

more like stupid

molson 03-19-2007 07:16 PM

I'm shocked more people are killed wrestling.

cthomer5000 03-19-2007 07:21 PM

sweet

JonInMiddleGA 03-19-2007 08:54 PM

No piranahs, no light tubes, no barbed wire, no dynamite?
Looks like a pretty tame match by Japanese hardcore standards.

SirFozzie 03-19-2007 09:29 PM

Look on the mat and all over the falling bodies, Jon. I think PLENTY of light bulbs were used already ;)

Schmidty 03-19-2007 10:09 PM

How do you know that the table isn't pre-cut?

Also, that type of wrestling is crap.

SirFozzie 03-19-2007 10:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99f8ztgg3fc

There's a couple spots in there that go each way..

Schmidty 03-19-2007 10:43 PM

I almost hope they all die, just to remove them from the gene pool.

A fucking idiotic abomination and an embarrassment to real wrestlers now and in the past.

samifan24 03-19-2007 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1422797)
A fucking idiotic abomination and an embarrassment to real wrestlers now and in the past.


Some people will do anything for fame.

korme 03-20-2007 02:49 AM

I remember watching a gif of a tiger bomb that a really big name in japan (dont remember his name anymore) used to do and remember thinking it was the sweetest move ever

wiki tells me it was probably mitsuharu misawa & the tiger driver 91

JonInMiddleGA 03-20-2007 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1422755)
Look on the mat and all over the falling bodies, Jon. I think PLENTY of light bulbs were used already ;)


Yeah, but there's none on the table ;)

Drake 03-20-2007 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1422789)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99f8ztgg3fc

There's a couple spots in there that go each way..


That is the most awesome YouTube clip in history.

cthomer5000 03-20-2007 07:32 AM

After watching that clip, I'm really upset I didn't get to see any of this while in Japan.

Flasch186 03-20-2007 07:39 AM

Jon,

is that like the WWE over there or more like some crazy indy scene thing, like a side show?

JonInMiddleGA 03-20-2007 09:04 AM

Flasch - pretty much a second (or third) tier side show. One of the reasons that "garbage wrestling" got its name. Closest US equivalent might be CZW, only with a higher profile due to longevity & an angle they ran with NJPW back in the late 90s.

I think this match description from Wiki kind of sums them up:
Quote:

Big Japan W*ING Crisis Big Born Deathmatch- Barbed-wire-board, thumbtacks, bed-of-nails, circus-style-scaffold into a barbed-wire-trampoline, tub of scorpions, cactus plants, light bulbs, Fire Stones, Dry Ice, barbed-wire-bat, drills, swords, knives, buzz saws Street Fight Tornado Death Match.

Mix up all of those options & you've got most of their matches.

Drake 03-20-2007 09:22 AM

Mix up all of those options & what you've got is GREAT ENTERTAINMENT.

JonInMiddleGA 03-20-2007 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1422942)
Mix up all of those options & what you've got is GREAT ENTERTAINMENT.


Although if you put them all in one match (as they apparently did), you've got a slight chance of being accused of overbooking ;)

SirFozzie 03-20-2007 10:13 AM

Tomoaki Honma and Ryuji Yamakawa had a couple great matches in BJPW in 99-2000 if I remember correctly that somehow blended the weapons based style that you see in these clips with the main style of Japanese Wrestling (puroresu, which is a lot more.. well I was going to say realistic, but not sure if that's word I should be using, definitedly harder hitting).. and the two matches were awesome

ImTheCrew 03-20-2007 10:53 AM

how many people die doing this?

Toddzilla 03-20-2007 11:10 AM

WTF were those 3" gold squares? They looked like industrial carpet tacks. Owwzzorz!

Ksyrup 03-20-2007 11:16 AM

Newsflash! US Wrestlers use HGH! Who woulda thunk it?

SirFozzie 03-20-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImTheCrew (Post 1423028)
how many people die doing this?


During the match type stuff? None. I'm sure that this kinda shit will shorten people's lives, but..

Drake 03-20-2007 11:58 AM

But it looks cool, so a shortened life is worth it...for the spectators, anyway. I'm more than happy if people want to die for my amusement.

Eaglesfan27 03-20-2007 12:09 PM

This may be a really stupid question, but why are the two guys holding the table?

SirFozzie 03-20-2007 12:20 PM

to make sure that they don't hit an edge with their head and kill themselves I guess.

Drake 03-20-2007 12:21 PM

For MAXIMUM CARNAGE, of course.

SirFozzie 03-20-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 1423036)
WTF were those 3" gold squares? They looked like industrial carpet tacks. Owwzzorz!


I think that's exactly what it was.

Mateo 03-20-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1423069)
More than happy if people want to die for my amusement.


The world needs ditch-diggers, too.

That picture doesn't impress me. Aren't Japanese people like three feet tall? That's a mere step stool they are jumping off of onto a TV tray.

DeToxRox 03-20-2007 04:33 PM

So ROH may be void of top TNA talent but PWG is presenting All Star Weekend in April headlined on night two by Low Ki vs Samoa Joe. They've wrestled once on the first ROH Show and now it's probably a top candidate for MOTY this time around.

And as much as I hate Garbage Wrestling, watch any Cage of Death by CZW.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qTUMAKfohSg

Terps 03-20-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281 (Post 1422849)
I remember watching a gif of a tiger bomb that a really big name in japan (dont remember his name anymore) used to do and remember thinking it was the sweetest move ever

wiki tells me it was probably mitsuharu misawa & the tiger driver 91


http://fach.n1e.jp/F/test/read.cgi/1f0/F2MUUYRPAIM/

There's a small clip of Misawa doing the TD '91 on Toshiaki Kawada. I think I have this match on tape.

DeToxRox 03-20-2007 09:09 PM

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...dwackerczw.jpg

A small pic of the ever retarded CZW Weedwhacker spot.


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