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DeToxRox 03-22-2007 09:24 PM

NBA: Kobe hits 50 for the third game in a row
 
Four minutes left in the fourth (albeit vs Memphis) and Kobe has 55.

Yes people hate him but this is pretty fucking impressive even considering he's done it vs Milwaukee, Portland and Memphis.

When he is in the zone there is no one better.

cmp 03-22-2007 09:32 PM

Very impressive. No one can deny how good he is.

Logan 03-22-2007 09:32 PM

Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?

cmp 03-22-2007 09:40 PM

Ends up with 60. So thats a 65 point game, then 50 and now 60.

Easy Mac 03-22-2007 09:45 PM

That's probably raised his ppg by 1.5 points in the past 3 days.

MrBug708 03-22-2007 09:52 PM

*sigh*

Now if the Lakers could only get better players

Karlifornia 03-23-2007 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle (Post 1425008)

When he is in the zone there is no one better.


QFT

primelord 03-23-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1425023)
Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?


No

DeToxRox 03-23-2007 12:49 AM

Iverson had back to back 50 point games.

primelord 03-23-2007 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle (Post 1425191)
Iverson had back to back 50 point games.


Not in his rookie year he didn't

sabotai 03-23-2007 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1425023)
Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?


Not 50+, 40+.

4/7/97, 44pt vs Chi
4/9/97, 40pt vs Atl
4/11/97, 44 vs Mil
4/12/97, 50 vs. Cle
4/14/97, 40 vs. Wsh

MrBug708 03-23-2007 01:38 AM


Vince 03-23-2007 02:16 AM

That picture is freaking awesome.

Ragone 03-23-2007 03:09 AM

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Karlifornia 03-23-2007 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone (Post 1425198)
You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open


Kobe's taking the team on his shoulders. Would you rather have Kobe going to the rim contested, or passing it off to Kwame Brown for a 10 footer? I'll take Kobe making the shot or getting fouled.

Vince 03-23-2007 03:29 AM

For a second I read that as 'uncontested,' and I was about to say "Um...Karl?"

Then I realized I just need to go to sleep.

molson 03-23-2007 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragone (Post 1425198)
You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open


Ya, he should share the ball more with his less talented teammates so their feelings won't be hurt.

I understand the "ball hog" angle in a 5th grade YMCA league, but no so much here.

Subby 03-23-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone (Post 1425198)
You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Yeah pass when you are two feet from the fucking basket.

GOOD OBSERVATION COACH WOODEN.

wade moore 03-23-2007 07:37 AM

The Kobe Haters amuse me...

You should pass the ball to the two dumb-dumbs that are only wide open because you're in the air about to MAKE A BASKET.

JonInMiddleGA 03-23-2007 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1425239)
The Kobe Haters amuse me...


I can only assume that those of us who hate Kobe but couldn't care less whether he passes the ball in that situation (or any other) are not as consistent a source of amusement for you ;)

wade moore 03-23-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1425246)
I can only assume that those of us who hate Kobe but couldn't care less whether he passes the ball in that situation (or any other) are not as consistent a source of amusement for you ;)


Well.. I should say.. The Kobe Haters that make up reasons to hate him amuse me...

There are legitimate reasons to hate on Kobe, why grasp for things that aren't there?

Julio Riddols 03-23-2007 08:12 AM

I don't like him so much as a person, but Kobe is a hell of a player, in my mind the closest thing to a Jordan in the league today.. If he had a Pippen to run with, there wouldn't be so much of a need for him to put the team on his back like this.. But I think with all great players, there comes a time when they just say "To hell with it, I'm gonna will this team to win, because I'm the only one who can." And the thing that makes him great is that when he does this, he does it. He doesn't often choke when the pressure is on.

Logan 03-23-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1425194)
Not 50+, 40+.

4/7/97, 44pt vs Chi
4/9/97, 40pt vs Atl
4/11/97, 44 vs Mil
4/12/97, 50 vs. Cle
4/14/97, 40 vs. Wsh


My mistake...thanks.

Eaglesfan27 03-23-2007 08:35 AM

I don't like Kobe, but I think he has raised his game this year to its most impressive level, flailing arms notwithstanding.

BrianD 03-23-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 1425256)
I don't like him so much as a person, but Kobe is a hell of a player, in my mind the closest thing to a Jordan in the league today.. If he had a Pippen to run with, there wouldn't be so much of a need for him to put the team on his back like this.. But I think with all great players, there comes a time when they just say "To hell with it, I'm gonna will this team to win, because I'm the only one who can." And the thing that makes him great is that when he does this, he does it. He doesn't often choke when the pressure is on.


Though when he had Shaq on his team, he still put the team on his back. Kobe is an amazing talent though.

Chief Rum 03-23-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragone (Post 1425198)
You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open


You know what I notice? Some guys can't win for trying. And some people will despise others no matter what they see and hear.

BTW, a couple things I see in the picture. Kobe is open, too. And about a foot from the basket. With no one with a chance to reach him before he scores. And the reason there is a crowd behind him (and the players open) is because of something called help defense (although I don't think coaches will be showing this picture in any how-tos).

Chubby 03-23-2007 03:08 PM

Good job Kobe, your lakers are now only 16 games out of 1st!

Karlifornia 03-23-2007 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 1425517)
Good job Kobe, your lakers are now only 16 games out of 1st!


Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?

Chubby 03-23-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1425525)
Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?



Kobe can't win squat without Shaq.

Hell, this is Kobe's wet dream. He wanted to be "the man", well now he is except he won't be getting any more rings.

st.cronin 03-23-2007 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1425525)
Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?


You're thinking of Steve Nash.

Atocep 03-23-2007 08:59 PM

44 going into the 4th quarter tonight.

kingfc22 03-23-2007 09:23 PM

Kobe just hit 50...

stevew 03-23-2007 09:32 PM

Woot, way to pile on teams out of playoff contention baby! Good scoring feat though.....It wouldn't suprise me to see him go for 50 4 more games in a row, and the teams the Lakers play either suck or don't play defense.

LloydLungs 03-23-2007 09:33 PM

The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.

stevew 03-23-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs (Post 1425714)
The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.


Eh, i meant on the cusp of playoff contention. Regardless if a team is 6-8 games under .500, they really won't do crap in the playoffs anyways.

stevew 03-23-2007 09:38 PM

eh, didn't notice houston on there at first.... Will be interesting to see what he does there, as he should easily drop 50 on the griz and warriors if he wants too.

JeeberD 03-23-2007 11:26 PM

No way JVG lets him get 50 on us...

DeToxRox 03-24-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1425715)
Eh, i meant on the cusp of playoff contention. Regardless if a team is 6-8 games under .500, they really won't do crap in the playoffs anyways.


Why are you bringing up Bron in a Kobe thread?

sterlingice 03-24-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs (Post 1425714)
The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.


I do like the phrase "Dallas' sacrificial play toy". Fun use of the language :)

SI

Neon_Chaos 03-24-2007 12:05 PM

That is just insane. Regardless if the opposing team is in playoff contention or not, for him to score 50 points in four consecutive games... that's just ridiculous.

What makes it more special is that it's Kobe's teammates who are actually giving him the opportunity to score all those points. Lamar Odom and Luke Walton are giving him great passes, and Phil Jackson is really just letting Kobe take over (which, after the near-collapse of the Lakers after the all-star break, is a no-brainer)

And it's not like Kobe's forcing the shots (ala 76ers era Iverson)... his FG% these past four games is simply an indication that he IS getting great looks on the court, either due to his skill or due to his teammate's just finding ways to give him the ball (I sincerely doubt any opposing NBA Team/Player/Coach would willingly give Kobe the chance to drop 50 on them... playoff contender or not)

Mar. 16 vs Por - 65 points, 59% fg shooting, 66.7% 3pt
Mar. 18 vs Min - 50 points, 48.8% fg shooting, 44.4% 3pt
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 60 points, 54.1% fg shooting, 42.9% 3pt
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 50 points, 55.2% fg shooting, 40% 3pt


In four games: 225 points, 76/140 fg (54.3%), 17/33 3pt (51.5%), 56/60 ft (93.3%), 6.25 rpg, 2.75 apg, 2 topg.

The guy even has the time to dish out 2.75 assists a game... AND keep a respectable ATO ratio for his position (and the number of times he gets possesion of the ball)...

edit, added:

Odom is playing great as well, and Walton (since coming back) has just had one job to do... get the ball to Kobe.

Odom's numbers the last four games:

Mar. 16 vs Por - 15 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 50% fg
Mar. 18 vs Min - 16 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 58.3% fg
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 20 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists, 66.7% fg
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 66.7 fg

Walton's numbers:

Mar. 18 vs Min - 10 points, 8 rebounds, 11 assists, 44% fg
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 11 points, 2 rebounds, 4 assists, 57.1% fg
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 13 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 30% fg


That's just insane.

Chubby 03-24-2007 12:18 PM

you'd think if he's going to ballhog he'd at least go for Zero assists instead of getting a huge 1.

DeToxRox 03-24-2007 01:03 PM

Sounds like Chubby has a namesake for Kobe.

Fouts 03-24-2007 04:04 PM

I don't understand the hate. It is about winning basketball games. The Lakers lost 7 straight games, Kobe decides to score more and now they've won 4 straight. If Kobe scoring 50+ per game = win, then I'm all for it.

Chubby 03-24-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1426061)
I don't understand the hate. It is about winning basketball games. The Lakers lost 7 straight games, Kobe decides to score more and now they've won 4 straight. If Kobe scoring 50+ per game = win, then I'm all for it.


Me thinks that has more to do with the competition than Kobe dropping 50 each game.

Chief Rum 03-25-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 1426283)
Me thinks that has more to do with the competition than Kobe dropping 50 each game.


Yup, you got it figured. I mean, Kobe was fortunate to play the four worst teams in NBA history in a row, so he could score his 50. Oh what they're not the four worst ever? Don't they have to be? If they're actually like other normal bad NBA teams, wouldn't someone else besides Wilt Chamberlain have done this in over 60 years?

So they're the worst ever, then, right? I mean, no one would have the gall to see that Kobe is good or nothing, would they?

Chubby 03-25-2007 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1426382)
Yup, you got it figured. I mean, Kobe was fortunate to play the four worst teams in NBA history in a row, so he could score his 50. Oh what they're not the four worst ever? Don't they have to be? If they're actually like other normal bad NBA teams, wouldn't someone else besides Wilt Chamberlain have done this in over 60 years?

So they're the worst ever, then, right? I mean, no one would have the gall to see that Kobe is good or nothing, would they?


Wow, Kobe is god. He's better than Jordan. He's so good he'll carry the team to a title by himself. He doesn't need Shaq, he's Kobe!

Hahaha, pass the koolaid.

Danny 03-25-2007 06:06 AM

Why are you guys wasting your time debating this guy?

Neuqua 03-25-2007 11:31 AM

I am not, have never been, nor will ever be a fan of Kobe. But the show he is putting on now is absolutely remarkable and as long as his team is still winning, he should be commended for putting the team on his back.

:: runs to take a shower ::

molson 03-25-2007 12:22 PM

On the offensive side of the ball, Jordan V. Kobe is a very reasonable debate. (Jordan obviously still far better all around)

Chief Rum 03-25-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 1426388)
Wow, Kobe is god. He's better than Jordan. He's so good he'll carry the team to a title by himself. He doesn't need Shaq, he's Kobe!

Hahaha, pass the koolaid.


Umm, reading comprehension. You're the one who said it was all the competition, wiseguy. Think before you respond. The only ridiculous statements being made here (Kobe had nothing to do with his streak) are by you.


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