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Honolulu Blue 05-08-2007 01:27 PM

MLB Draft on ESPN
 
I'm surprised no one is talking about this, so I'll cast the first stone. Here's the article, so you know I'm not making this up. It's short, and I'd encourage you to read it if your workplace allows you to. In case you can't, here are the highlights:

* Thursday, June 7, 2 PM, from the WWoS Complex in Orlando (gee, shocker :D )
* First round only, 5 minute limit per pick
* ESPN2 does the honors, scheduled to end at 6.

I'm not expecting much, but this COULD be interesting. I'll be working through most of it, and it's not compelling enough for me to call in sick, but I plant to stick a tape in and watch what I can, when I can, and skip through the boring parts (which figure to be numerous).

Young Drachma 05-08-2007 01:29 PM

Yeah, I saw it yesterday. I'm pleased. All we need is draft pick trading and the 20th century to baseball's draft will be complete.

And I like that it's only the first round.

Young Drachma 05-08-2007 01:29 PM

And yes, I realize that baseball's draft is so long that doing more than one round would be painful.

But this is still a big step forward for folks who up until very recently were adamantly opposed to even putting the picks out on the day after the draft occurred.

Crapshoot 05-08-2007 01:29 PM

Yeah, I'm interested as well. If they get the BA guys in there as well as Keith Law, its a definite yes for me.

rkmsuf 05-08-2007 01:34 PM

you know what would be a cool idea? how about an FOFC member draft?

Tyrith 05-08-2007 01:40 PM

If they get some of the ESPN baseball analysts (especially Law, like Crapshoot said) then it could be really interesting -- I personally find the baseball analysts much more interesting to listen to than Kiper, Berman, et al -- the football draft this year was pretty obnoxious, a shame that we can't get NFL Network on cable. :(

lighthousekeeper 05-08-2007 02:10 PM

Looking forward to this.

dacman 05-08-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1460582)
If they get some of the ESPN baseball analysts (especially Law, like Crapshoot said) then it could be really interesting -- I personally find the baseball analysts much more interesting to listen to than Kiper, Berman, et al -- the football draft this year was pretty obnoxious, a shame that we can't get NFL Network on cable. :(



The NFL Network's coverage wasn't that much better, IMO. The constant shilling of Sprint Mobile --"you can watch the NFL draft right on your mobile phone!" -- drove me nearly insane.

Atocep 05-08-2007 02:20 PM

It'll be interesting for hardcore baseball fans, but to most baseball fans its going to be something they'll check out once and move along. The idiotic no trading draft picks rule plus all the picks that are lost to free agency kills the excitment of the draft. Add to that the fact that you won't hear 75% of these guy's names again because of the incredible bust rate of baseball prospects and you have a boring show compared to NFL/NBA drafts.

Young Drachma 05-08-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacman (Post 1460601)
The NFL Network's coverage wasn't that much better, IMO. The constant shilling of Sprint Mobile --"you can watch the NFL draft right on your mobile phone!" -- drove me nearly insane.


God that WAS annoying. I liked how with each player though, they assessed his strengths and weakness, rather than having a big hug fest with him. I mean, I know Deion Sanders did that with the first rounders. But he's not exactly an analyst, so..I was tolerating that on mute.

Ksyrup 05-08-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 1460604)
It'll be interesting for hardcore baseball fans, but to most baseball fans its going to be something they'll check out once and move along. The idiotic no trading draft picks rule plus all the picks that are lost to free agency kills the excitment of the draft. Add to that the fact that you won't hear 75% of these guy's names again because of the incredible bust rate of baseball prospects and you have a boring show compared to NFL/NBA drafts.


Yeah, there's an equation you could come up with that factors in the sport's popularity, the draft's rules, and the percentage of drafted players who make an impact in a given sport as to how popular a sport's televised draft is or would be. Unless you're talking about a Mark Prior or someone like that, even the best first round prospects are 2-4 years away from the big leagues. There's no reason to "root" for your team to pick a guy that, at best, is going to help your team in 2010.

SunDevil 05-08-2007 04:06 PM

I think that this is a good idea. Yes, based on the numbers the players who are chosen in the draft are years away from making an appearance to the major league team, but I think that this could give a boost to minor league team as well. Living in Arizona and seeing how popular Spring Training is, how many people from out of state travel here to catch their team play, I think that some of these same people would visit their AAA team if they had better knowledge of the minor league players and such. Usually the AAA teams reside in the same city or another city close by.

So in terms of giving the fan the chance to identify with or connect with young players whether they make it or not to the major leagues, I think is a good thing.

Pumpy Tudors 05-08-2007 04:15 PM

I know this is a little strange, but the only draft I enjoy watching is the NBA draft. The MLB draft, to me, is like the opposite of the NBA draft. In the NBA draft, most of the top picks are going to get serious playing time and possibly make an impact in their first year. In the MLB draft, as has been mentioned, the guys are at least a couple of years away from the big leagues.

Now, this may be more of a personal thing, but when the NBA drafts players, I know who most of the players are, and I know something about how they play. In the MLB draft, I can pretty much guarantee that I've never heard of any of the draftees. Even if I've heard a name or two before, I certainly don't know anything about how they play.

OK, I understand that many people follow baseball prospects more than I do. It's just that there are so many players, so many rounds to the draft, and so many places that these players will get scattered to. It almost seems like a chore to keep track of these guys until they at least hit AAA level. By then, you have a pretty good idea of which ones have a future in pro baseball and which ones don't. On draft day, I just can't find much to get excited about.

Then again, I don't like watching the NFL draft at all, and everyone else seems to love that. So I guess I'm a little strange that way.

Ksyrup 05-08-2007 04:17 PM

I have little interest in the NBA, but I still will usually watch the draft. And of course, I like to follow the first few rounds of the NFL draft and keep track of players I know from FSU or other schools. With baseball, I'm more interested in reading the scouting projections that come out after they've been drafted and have played in the minors. The draft is really not all that important until they show they can play, and that happens in the minors.

Pumpy Tudors 05-08-2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1460668)
I have little interest in the NBA, but I still will usually watch the draft. And of course, I like to follow the first few rounds of the NFL draft and keep track of players I know from FSU or other schools. With baseball, I'm more interested in reading the scouting projections that come out after they've been drafted and have played in the minors. The draft is really not all that important until they show they can play, and that happens in the minors.

This sounds quite a bit like me. I don't watch the NBA in the regular season at all, but I like to follow the stats of individual players, particularly the rookies. I only follow the NFL draft once it's over, and I look at the results to see where certain players went. Besides that, I don't really care about the NFL rookies until the season starts.

If there's an audience for the first round of the MLB draft, great. I certainly can't fault ESPN for giving it a shot. There are so many potential superstars that'll go in the 3rd round or 8th round of 15th round, though, that there's just not enough "bang for your buck" for me, I guess.

Honolulu Blue 06-07-2007 06:07 AM

I'm bumping this because the draft is today. Set the DVR/VCR.

P.S. There are a few more details about the ceremony here, along with some other links that may be of interest.

Ksyrup 06-07-2007 06:42 AM

I could not possibly imagine recording and watching a draft.

Ksyrup 06-07-2007 06:58 AM

No, I have an opinion.

I'm one of those who can't even watch tape-delayed live sporting events, so the idea of watching something as monotonous as a draft after the fact is unthinkable.

I apologize for making my opinion public, though.

Logan 06-07-2007 07:02 AM

I'm guessing the "first round picks being aired" will only include the true 1st rounders...not the sandwich picks between R1 and R2, correct?

Ksyrup 06-07-2007 07:04 AM

I'm disappointed. I thought you would just come back in 10 minutes and chastise yourself for making that post, instead of deleting it. Oh well.

Schmidty 06-07-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1478622)
No, I have an opinion.

I'm one of those who can't even watch tape-delayed live sporting events, so the idea of watching something as monotonous as a draft after the fact is unthinkable.

I apologize for making my opinion public, though.


I deleted my comment right away, because I knew it would get misconstrued. I was just being a smartass. Sorry.

Schmidty 06-07-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1478624)
I'm disappointed. I thought you would just come back in 10 minutes and chastise yourself for making that post, instead of deleting it. Oh well.


You were pretty close. ;)

stevew 06-07-2007 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1478623)
I'm guessing the "first round picks being aired" will only include the true 1st rounders...not the sandwich picks between R1 and R2, correct?


If it's scheduled for 4 hours of coverage, and there are 30 teams, they may actually throw in the sandwich round. Hard to say though.

Logan 06-07-2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1478624)
I'm disappointed. I thought you would just come back in 10 minutes and chastise yourself for making that post, instead of deleting it. Oh well.


Always quote, Ksy...always.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1478630)
If it's scheduled for 4 hours of coverage, and there are 30 teams, they may actually throw in the sandwich round. Hard to say though.


An article I read was kinda specific about "every team's 1st round will be televised," but that may have been more to peek the interest of the fans of teams who don't get a lot of coverage, more than definitively saying "just the first 30 picks will be televised." They should go into the sandwich picks though...there's been some great players from there in recent years.

st.cronin 06-07-2007 01:29 PM

I think the Cubs just drafted a mentally handicapped 3rd baseman.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1478836)
I think the Cubs just drafted a mentally handicapped 3rd baseman.


Josh "tender" Vitters?

Karlifornia 06-07-2007 01:32 PM

Does Bud Selig really need to tell us what city and state Clemson University is located?

Atocep 06-07-2007 01:33 PM

Should we start a pool on when this Pirates 1st round pick blows his arm out?

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 01:37 PM

Daniel Moskos "on the Husdon"

DeToxRox 06-07-2007 01:52 PM

LaPorta to Milwaukee is interesting.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1478859)
LaPorta to Milwaukee is interesting.


Matt LaPorta "viarta"

DeToxRox 06-07-2007 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf (Post 1478861)
Matt LaPorta "viarta"


Touche.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 01:56 PM

Matthew "cream of" Wieters

Karlifornia 06-07-2007 02:04 PM

The draft pick countdown timer is having issues. "Sponsored by Ronex watches"

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 02:04 PM

Casey "Carl" Weathers

Jarrod "Peter" Parker

st.cronin 06-07-2007 02:04 PM

The Giants just picked a girl!

Toddzilla 06-07-2007 02:07 PM

Whomever gave a microphone to that bald-headed mushmouth idiot to conduct interviews should have their head forced into the anus of a camel.

Karlifornia 06-07-2007 02:08 PM

..And the Giants take pitching..just what they needed.

That was sarcasm, btw.

st.cronin 06-07-2007 02:09 PM

Bud Selig is the wrong guy to be doing this, he's just not at all suited for television.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1478873)
The Giants just picked a girl!


"the bridges of" Madison Bumgarner

or the more edgy

Madison "Jennifer" Bumgarner

Atocep 06-07-2007 02:12 PM

Didn't I see this guy on King of the Hill?

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 02:18 PM

Phillippe "you hoser" Aumont

st.cronin 06-07-2007 02:21 PM

It sounded like the Indians just drafted Bode Miller.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1478903)
It sounded like the Indians just drafted Bode Miller.


Beua "Heather" Mills "McCartney"

Terps 06-07-2007 02:29 PM

The O's got Wieters, so I'm happy about that. I think if Mike Moustakas was there they would've drafted him since he's Greek, but kudos to KC for not letting them have that chance.

rkmsuf 06-07-2007 02:30 PM

Jason "Ironhead" Heyward

dawgfan 06-07-2007 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1478880)
..And the Giants take pitching..just what they needed.

That was sarcasm, btw.

???

Even more than in football and especially basketball, you don't draft for immediate need in baseball - the players (with extremely few exceptions) are not ready to jump straight to the Major League roster, and most are a number of years away.

To a certain extent you can justify adjusting your draft board somewhat based off organizational strength, but for the most part you really do want to draft the "best available player" - if you end up stacked at certain positions, you can either change their position (if possible) or trade from a position of strength to fill a need.

dawgfan 06-07-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terps (Post 1478909)
The O's got Wieters, so I'm happy about that. I think if Mike Moustakas was there they would've drafted him since he's Greek, but kudos to KC for not letting them have that chance.

Wow - the O's aren't afraid of dealing with Boras, or they don't mind missing out on signing a guy this year and taking the new compensation rule pick next year. Wieters is the consensus best position player prospect in the draft and perhaps the best prospect period.

Mr. Sparkle 06-07-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgfan (Post 1478911)
???

Even more than in football and especially basketball, you don't draft for immediate need in baseball - the players (with extremely few exceptions) are not ready to jump straight to the Major League roster, and most are a number of years away.

To a certain extent you can justify adjusting your draft board somewhat based off organizational strength, but for the most part you really do want to draft the "best available player" - if you end up stacked at certain positions, you can either change their position (if possible) or trade from a position of strength to fill a need.


The Giants have absolutely no power bats in their minor leagues, and haven't developed a legitimate bat in Sabean's entire tenure. Beau Mills seemed like the perfect fit for them. They have has success drafting players from where he went, Lewis & Clark, they showed a ton of interest in him before the draft, it seemed as if everything fell right into place. And then they draft another pitcher. Now, I understand that you can't ever have enough good young pitching and you can always trade for hitting, but I have absolutely no faith in Sabean's ability to use that young pitching to actually make a decent trade. They need bats at all levels of their system, yet show no desire whatsoever to acquire them, be it through trades or through the draft. I'm sure things would be different if there was a 35-over softball league draft, however. Sabean would be all over that.

st.cronin 06-07-2007 02:43 PM

Wow, the footage of that Texas high school pitcher, Blake Beavens, is rough. My elbow twinges just watching that guy throw.


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