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MizzouRah 05-11-2007 12:25 PM

Tecmo Bowl 2008
 
From IGN: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/787/787604p1.html

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Next, Tecmo Bowl...

7:23: Seriously, Tecmo Bowl? People at the press conference cheer. Mr. Inaga, Vice President of Tecmo Inc, takes the stage. Inada takes the stage and jokes that the title of the game wasn't supposed to ahve been revealed until the end. "Just pretend like you don't know that it says Tecmo Bowl here" (pointing to the logo on the screen) "Instead of telling you about it, we're going to s how you a video that is very memorable."

The video begins. The video shows Tecmo employees (including Inada himself) playing SNES Tecmo Bowl. Jumps to a trailer for the full game. Set for release in 2008. But, no footage of the game itself ... just a logo. And no platform announcement, intentionally. "I can't tell you what platform we're making it for. But I can tell you that it's probably not going to be on the platform that you're expecting... if that makes any sense." This 2008 game will not be a port. It's a band new game for one of the new systems. But which one?!? "That's one thing I can tell you for sure. This is going to be a brand new game for one of the new systems ... We're confident that the new Tecmo Bowl is going to be the talk of the town in 2008."


Forget Madden, forget NFL 2k8, this IS what football was all about years ago baby!

Now I'm really wondering which console this is coming out for. :confused:

I'll take a guess and say PSP (better hold on to mine now).

molson 05-11-2007 12:26 PM

I never got the obsession with that game - but good for them for cashing in on it.

rkmsuf 05-11-2007 12:27 PM

meh, they'll never recapture the magic

Chubby 05-11-2007 12:28 PM

they should just fo a port of the SNES version with updated rosters and make a killing instead of another failed redo of the game (like the PS version was)

Celeval 05-11-2007 12:34 PM

My long shot guess: A Virtual Console game for the wii.

Kodos 05-11-2007 12:35 PM

Maybe I'll finally get to play it. :)

cthomer5000 05-11-2007 12:36 PM

Just port the NES Tecmo Super Bowl version with updated rosters. Best game eva.

Hurst2112 05-11-2007 12:44 PM

I always wanted a stand alone, hand held game of TSB3. Just a nice clean walkman sized game. Replaceable battery for stat saving. Nothing more, nothing less. They could sell it for $100 and I would buy it in a minute.

Chubby 05-11-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1462720)
Just port the NES Tecmo Super Bowl version with updated rosters. Best game eva.


That too would be fine.

I really don't see many differences between the NES and SNES versions (tho I have both right now, I'm playing the NES one through a Bills season) outside of bigger playbooks.

Mizzou B-ball fan 05-11-2007 12:59 PM

If it's not on a system that I already own, it will be a system seller for me.

It's actually a perfect time to release a new Tecmo football game. Madden isn't doing anything innovative. 2K Sports doesn't have a franchise mode. Tecmo could heat up the competition in a hurry if they do things the right way.

Hurst2112 05-11-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 1462739)
That too would be fine.

I really don't see many differences between the NES and SNES versions (tho I have both right now, I'm playing the NES one through a Bills season) outside of bigger playbooks.


the season to season with FAs was the biggest upgrade IMO. Unlocking old school players and being able to sign them was pretty cool too.

Chubby 05-11-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112 (Post 1462743)
the season to season with FAs was the biggest upgrade IMO. Unlocking old school players and being able to sign them was pretty cool too.


I thought that was only with TSB III:Final Edition or whatever the last TSB on SNES...

Hurst2112 05-11-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 1462745)
I thought that was only with TSB III:Final Edition or whatever the last TSB on SNES...


you are right. I don't think I ever played the SNES version of regular TSB. Wait, I might have once or twice. All my memories of regular TSB was on the NES.

JediKooter 05-11-2007 01:04 PM

Next to Micro League Baseball, Techmo Bowl probably 'wasted' more hours and days of my youth than just about anything else at the time.

Nice to see something is going on with it.

Hurst2112 05-11-2007 01:08 PM

In the immortal words of Geoff Tate:

I remember now

http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&sql=1:14153

Julio Riddols 05-11-2007 01:08 PM

Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.. Oh boy.. Oh shit..

Please give us old school tecmo with franchise mode. That is all.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

MizzouRah 05-11-2007 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1462742)
If it's not on a system that I already own, it will be a system seller for me.

It's actually a perfect time to release a new Tecmo football game. Madden isn't doing anything innovative. 2K Sports doesn't have a franchise mode. Tecmo could heat up the competition in a hurry if they do things the right way.


I might have to concur here. My wife would kill me, but daym!

Anthony 05-11-2007 01:43 PM

with today's rosters, who would be the equivalent of Bo Jackson?

I say Vick or LT.

Chubby 05-11-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic (Post 1462776)
with today's rosters, who would be the equivalent of Bo Jackson?

I say Vick or LT.



Vick = QB Eagles
Urlacher = LT
L Johnson = Bo (career wise most def, I don't put anyone on par with Bo in the physical running style)

tanglewood 05-11-2007 01:54 PM

Johnson = Okoye
LT = Bo
Harrison = Rice
Brady = Montana
Manning = Marino
Reed = Lott
Peppers = White

Chubby 05-11-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood (Post 1462787)
Johnson = Okoye - this fits too
LT = Bo - don't have a problem with this, tho I would make LT = Thurman
Harrison = Rice - yup
Brady = Montana - you're on drugs
Manning = Marino - no way, QB Bills MAYBE
Reed = Lott - sure
Peppers = White - sure



See above.

Passacaglia 05-11-2007 02:04 PM

You Super Tecmo weirdos. Give me my 8 men and uninterceptable "Pass 3" with San Fran any day of the week.

Julio Riddols 05-11-2007 02:40 PM

Roger Craig had to be PISSED that he only had one play in the playbook..

Izulde 05-11-2007 02:52 PM

This is the single best news I've heard all week.

JeeberD 05-11-2007 03:34 PM

Oh hell yes. I may have to get a next gen console after all...

Maple Leafs 05-11-2007 04:10 PM

I think it will be hilarious when they released a full-fledged next generation 3D football game, and everyone just plays it in "classic" mode.

P.S. I would buy a system just to play Tecmo with updated rosters.

Pyser 05-11-2007 04:50 PM

um, doesnt ea own nfl players names exclusively?

Pyser 05-11-2007 04:50 PM

dola

so, bo=chargers rb

not as exciting, unless its hackable

sooner333 05-11-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser (Post 1462876)
um, doesnt ea own nfl players names exclusively?


Yeah, but maybe Tecmo still has the rights to the rosters they bought in the respective years the games came out. I'm just speculating and could very well be wrong, but maybe they could just release a game with 1991 rosters once again. They did that for game boy when they released Tecmo Bowl in '91 with the '87 rosters.

Big Fo 05-11-2007 06:02 PM

"I can't tell you what platform we're making it for. But I can tell you that it's probably not going to be on the platform that you're expecting... if that makes any sense."


It doesn't make sense to me, what would be the platform that we are expecting?

Logan 05-11-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1462707)
I never got the obsession with that game - but good for them for cashing in on it.


Pretty simple actually. It was a fun game that didn't care about being realistic (not that running Bo back to the 1 and then having him go 99 yards for scores couldn't really happen), but also provided for full season play with stat tracking. That last part allowed for just enough "realism" where you could just have a blast playing through your season.

MJ4H 05-11-2007 07:46 PM

This and baseball stars were pretty much the best thing ever.

JeeberD 05-11-2007 09:31 PM

MJ4H just wrote the most perfect post evar.

Rizon 05-11-2007 09:36 PM

Vick = Jack Trudeau (but with speed)

Kodos 05-11-2007 09:50 PM

EA doesn't own former player names. Just current guys.

Atocep 05-12-2007 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1462946)
Pretty simple actually. It was a fun game that didn't care about being realistic (not that running Bo back to the 1 and then having him go 99 yards for scores couldn't really happen), but also provided for full season play with stat tracking. That last part allowed for just enough "realism" where you could just have a blast playing through your season.


This is dead on.

It was the first game on the nintendo that used real players and had full season mode with stats. The fact that it was tecmo bowl and its focus was fun, not realism, meant the insane stats you'd see much more easy to swallow. The AI could be a challenge when you'd meet a good team that was amped up and it made for some incredibly tense games.

To this day, nothing I've played on a console has come close to being as fun as grabbing a friend and playing a season on Tecmo Super Bowl and trying to meet in the Super Bowl.

I'm very skeptical that the same format could work today. It does appear to be nothing more than trying to cash in on the Tecmo Bowl name.

Shkspr 05-12-2007 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo (Post 1462914)
"I can't tell you what platform we're making it for. But I can tell you that it's probably not going to be on the platform that you're expecting... if that makes any sense."


It doesn't make sense to me, what would be the platform that we are expecting?



They probably expect that we'll expect it to be a PS3 or 360 game, and so I expect they expect we won't expect a Wii version.

The only problem I expect is that if they expect us to expect that they expect we won't expect a Wii version, we might expect that...so they might expect we wouldn't expect them to expect us to expect that Wii edition...so maybe we should expect it for the PS3.

Big Fo 05-12-2007 09:10 AM

Yeah man, it boggles the mind as to what Tecmo meant with that statement. Watch it be a PSP game or something. Whatever platform they choose this could be the best thing ever or a gigantic letdown.

wade moore 05-12-2007 10:41 AM

I had to be mr. naysayer, but does anyone really think that a new Tecmo SB would really be that fun? There is tons of nostalgia going here that I'd be shocked if we actually like/approve of the game that comes out.

The whole Tecmo SB phenomenae is hilarious to me... We all complain about the minor problems that Madden has yet Tecmo was just so far from reality..

*shrug*.. this just screams of things like the new Excitebike, etc, etc... I just don't see it being a good game...

Logan 05-12-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1463109)
The whole Tecmo SB phenomenae is hilarious to me... We all complain about the minor problems that Madden has yet Tecmo was just so far from reality.


That's the point though...Tecmo didn't try to be real, Madden is. And it can surely be entertaining to play Madden now, but is it really "fun" like Tecmo was? Not in my opinion.

And there's plenty of arcade-type games like Blitz that people love because it's not real and it's just fun to play. Just like how there's plenty of people who will have a blast playing Madden because one guy and a buddy could have a 87-84 barnburner where Manning and McNabb throw for 9 touchdowns each.

MJ4H 05-12-2007 11:08 AM

It's sort of like the problem with "realistic" computer graphics and/or animation like in that Final Fantasy movie awhile back. When they try to make it super-realistic, we tend to notice the flaws more because they stand out so much from the actual real things we observe every day. Things start to just seem freaky or bizarre instead of realistic.

Julio Riddols 05-12-2007 11:18 AM

Tecmo was easy to pick up and get good at, but relatively hard to master. The controls weren't complex, and the game produced realistic stats in its own universe. Meaning, the CPU could rack up numbers damn near as good as a human could. Everything about it was fun, and it made no pretensions about being a "realistic" game.

The players were larger than life, the superstars really played like superstars, and the drama of the game was untouchable. You never felt out of a game late when you were pinned deep in your own territory, because you just knew that there was always that chance you could launch the ball 90 yards in the air and your receiver could win the (cut-screen for added effect) jump ball in the opposite end zone. That didn't feel like a fluke either. That was just how tecmo was.

If I could get a game with generic but editable rosters, franchise mode, and the same gameplay of that 1991 masterpiece of sports gaming history, I don't think anyone would know I existed anymore. I would get totally lost in the Tecmo universe.

Logan 05-12-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 1463121)
The players were larger than life, the superstars really played like superstars, and the drama of the game was untouchable. You never felt out of a game late when you were pinned deep in your own territory, because you just knew that there was always that chance you could launch the ball 90 yards in the air and your receiver could win the (cut-screen for added effect) jump ball in the opposite end zone. That didn't feel like a fluke either. That was just how tecmo was.


This gave me wood.

Maple Leafs 05-12-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman (Post 1463118)
It's sort of like the problem with "realistic" computer graphics and/or animation like in that Final Fantasy movie awhile back. When they try to make it super-realistic, we tend to notice the flaws more because they stand out so much from the actual real things we observe every day. Things start to just seem freaky or bizarre instead of realistic.

The "Uncanny Valley". Absolutely applies to Tecmo.

wade moore 05-12-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1463112)
That's the point though...Tecmo didn't try to be real, Madden is. And it can surely be entertaining to play Madden now, but is it really "fun" like Tecmo was? Not in my opinion.

And there's plenty of arcade-type games like Blitz that people love because it's not real and it's just fun to play. Just like how there's plenty of people who will have a blast playing Madden because one guy and a buddy could have a 87-84 barnburner where Manning and McNabb throw for 9 touchdowns each.


You help to prove my point. I mean, how popular was Blitz really? I just don't see how Tecmo can hope to reach more than the status that Blitz did...

Logan 05-12-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1463131)
You help to prove my point. I mean, how popular was Blitz really? I just don't see how Tecmo can hope to reach more than the status that Blitz did...


Blitz had a nice run from the arcade stage in the mid-90's all the way into the early 2000s. That's nothing to sneeze over.

You know how we always tell people like our resident EA Sports basher that Madden will never try to improve upon its game because 99% of the population (with the 1% being people on this board and other forums that discuss sports games) doesn't care, because they will keep buying it anyway?

Well here's a game that us hardcore football people would buy. And the arcade seekers would buy it too. Tecmo is a huge brand name, despite it not having been made for 15 years.

Maple Leafs 05-12-2007 12:05 PM

Honestly, I enjoyed the original Tecmo so much I'd probably spend $50 on a new one just on principle.

wade moore 05-12-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1463134)
Blitz had a nice run from the arcade stage in the mid-90's all the way into the early 2000s. That's nothing to sneeze over.

You know how we always tell people like our resident EA Sports basher that Madden will never try to improve upon its game because 99% of the population (with the 1% being people on this board and other forums that discuss sports games) doesn't care, because they will keep buying it anyway?

Well here's a game that us hardcore football people would buy. And the arcade seekers would buy it too. Tecmo is a huge brand name, despite it not having been made for 15 years.


I don't think that most hardcore football people would enjoy it - that's my exact point. Some might buy it out of nostalgia, but that is not for hardcore gamers.

Logan 05-12-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1463158)
I don't think that most hardcore football people would enjoy it - that's my exact point. Some might buy it out of nostalgia, but that is not for hardcore gamers.


No, you're still missing it. The "hardcore gamers" I noted, and you're describing, was in reference to the "1% being people on this board and other forums that discuss sports games," and not the "99% of the population" who don't care about realism because they're always buying Madden.

stevew 05-12-2007 02:37 PM

Ideally it will be a "party" type game and come out on the wii. Imagine some sort of interactive "tackle breaking" paper rock scissiors style head to head matchup every time one of the players is about to be tackled. The real fun of the original was in the limited play calling, and trying to outthink who you were playing.


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