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larrymcg421 05-22-2007 03:51 PM

Typical Oden choke at the buzzer
 
Why wait?

Atocep 05-22-2007 03:53 PM

For the record, I predicted this thread. ;)

albionmoonlight 05-22-2007 03:59 PM

Interesting comparision.

For some reason, I find myself really rooting for Oden. Normally, when someone comes out as the Golden Boy, there is a part of me that likes to see them stumble and take their lumps (or, depending on how obnoxious they are, I might want to see them outright fail). This, I imagine, is mostly jealousy on my part.

But, with Oden, I really want him to succeed. It's either because he's actually honest or possibly because he's the best liar that I have seen, but I think he means it when he says that he would be happy as a dentist or an accountant and that he's just a basketball player because he happens to be 7 feet tall.

Basically, Oden makes me think of how I would be if my body were a once in a lifetime freak of nature.

I wonder if he will get the same pressure/heat as LeBron.

Ksyrup 05-22-2007 04:10 PM

I know what you mean. He comes off as if he's got the maturity of someone as old as he looks.

miami_fan 05-22-2007 05:45 PM

NBA Draft.net compares him to David Robinson.

Here are a few of David's numbers over his first 4 years

89-90 24.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 3.9 BPG
90-91 25.6 PPG 13.0 RPG 3.9 BPG
91-92 23.2 PPG 12.2 RPG 4.5 BPG
92-93 23.4 PPG 11.7 RPG 3.2 BPG

He was Rookie of the Year, an All Star all four years, All Defense all four years (twice 1st team, twice 2nd team), and finally All-NBA all four years (twice 1st team, twice 3rd team). Oh yeah his team made the playoffs all 4 years winning the division twice.


There is the standard Greg should you choose to accept it.:rolleyes:

miami_fan 05-22-2007 05:52 PM

BTW I expect Greg Oden to be a tremendous NBA player.

JonInMiddleGA 05-22-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 1469606)
I think he means it when he says that he would be happy as a dentist or an accountant and that he's just a basketball player because he happens to be 7 feet tall.


For some reason, this quote reminds me of Herschel Walker's interest in being an FBI agent.

(It's also why I'd pick Durant over Oden if I were a GM in that position)

Atocep 05-22-2007 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 1469695)
NBA Draft.net compares him to David Robinson.

Here are a few of David's numbers over his first 4 years

89-90 24.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 3.9 BPG
90-91 25.6 PPG 13.0 RPG 3.9 BPG
91-92 23.2 PPG 12.2 RPG 4.5 BPG
92-93 23.4 PPG 11.7 RPG 3.2 BPG

He was Rookie of the Year, an All Star all four years, All Defense all four years (twice 1st team, twice 2nd team), and finally All-NBA all four years (twice 1st team, twice 3rd team). Oh yeah his team made the playoffs all 4 years winning the division twice.


There is the standard Greg should you choose to accept it.:rolleyes:


Interesting you mention Robinson. I would have never really compared the two because I didn't see Oden being as athletic as Robinson was, but Chad Ford had an article on his workouts on ESPN.com and he said his vertical and other workout numbers were very similar to Tyrus Thomas, who was drafted #4 last year based soley on his athleticism.

Based on those workouts he said GMs now think that he's not only the safest pick, but has higher upside than Durant or anyone else in the draft.

Which means he has no excuses. NBA Title and 1st team all-nba as a rookie or he's the next Shawn Bradley.

Groundhog 05-22-2007 06:01 PM

I'm rooting for Oden to do well because the NBA needs some talented bigmen, and Oden is the best prospect in about a decade.

Young Drachma 05-22-2007 06:08 PM

Yeah, I'd go with Oden. Even if he flops, he's pretty much been talked about as the top pick since well before this draft was even on the horizon. Durant had one good year and everyone wants him to be king. We've seen that all before. I think he's still a can't miss player either way. But if you have the #1 pick...I say it's Oden or trade down for a king's ransom.

Young Drachma 05-22-2007 06:08 PM

I like that he's humble and seems to have good people around him. Even LeBron seems to lack that.

Logan 05-22-2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 1469606)
For some reason, I find myself really rooting for Oden. Normally, when someone comes out as the Golden Boy, there is a part of me that likes to see them stumble and take their lumps (or, depending on how obnoxious they are, I might want to see them outright fail). This, I imagine, is mostly jealousy on my part.


At least you admit it. Most people won't.

Atocep 05-22-2007 08:11 PM

Now that he's going to Portland should be base our expectations on titles won or felonies?

Groundhog 05-22-2007 08:19 PM

I'm just eagerly wondering who breeds the better fighting dogs, Michael Vick, Qyntell Woods, or Greg Oden?

Neon_Chaos 05-22-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 1469866)
Now that he's going to Portland should be base our expectations on titles won or felonies?


The Blazers are going to cut the fat now that they've got the #1 pick. With Brandon Roy and Greg Oden as their cornerstones, I feel that they will be able to turn the team's image around and start trading away the headcases.

Fouts 05-22-2007 08:29 PM

Seemed like Oden was in foul trouble all the time in the NCAA tourney. I wonder how many minutes he will average next year. I'd put the over/under at 25.

stevew 05-22-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1469890)
Seemed like Oden was in foul trouble all the time in the NCAA tourney. I wonder how many minutes he will average next year. I'd put the over/under at 25.


That's cause NCAA refs like to call touch fouls. He may be foul prone his first half season, but the NBA has superstar rules, like them or not, and he's not going to pick up cheap fouls like he did in college.

CraigSca 05-22-2007 10:14 PM

Pfft - he probably won't even make the cut at the John Deere PGA tournament this weekend.

Logan 05-22-2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1469957)
That's cause NCAA refs like to call touch fouls. He may be foul prone his first half season, but the NBA has superstar rules, like them or not, and he's not going to pick up cheap fouls like he did in college.


Not only are there superstar rules, there are superstar big man rules.

cmp 05-22-2007 10:32 PM

I feel that people will be rooting for Oden. Something about him makes him much more likeable than someone like Lebron who I feel comes across as cocky and a lot of people don't like him because of it.

JeeberD 05-23-2007 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1469988)
Not only are there superstar rules, there are superstar big man rules.



Tell that to the refs who try their best to foul Yao Ming out...

Logan 05-23-2007 07:40 AM

Sorry, that should have read:

"Not only are there superstar rules, there are superstar thick man rules."

spleen1015 05-23-2007 08:40 AM

I met this kid in a bowling alley a couple of years ago. What stuck out to me was how he handled himself and how he was dressed. He seemed embarrassed when I approached him asking for an autograph and just some every day chit-chat.

What's really funny is seeing a dude 7 feet tall hanging out with a girl that is 5'3.

His hands are massive.

st.cronin 05-23-2007 08:43 AM

I think he'll be a very good pro, and he seems like a decent chap. I'll be rooting for him to succeed.


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