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MrBug708 06-27-2007 09:13 PM

The Copa America Thread
 
Mexico is up 2-0 on Brazil thus far. Once again Mexico rises to the occaision when playing a great team after choking vs the US

Blade6119 06-27-2007 09:22 PM

And if the US goes out and blows it, everyone outside of our region will forget we beat them in the gold cup

cthomer5000 06-27-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1489327)
And if the US goes out and blows it, everyone outside of our region will forget we beat them in the gold cup


Yeah, even though we're sending a B-team and Mexico has the same squad at Copa America.

MrBug708 06-27-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1489330)
Yeah, even though we're sending a B-team and Mexico has the same squad at Copa America.


They didnt gut their team like the US did, but they dont have the same squad either I dont believe

cthomer5000 06-27-2007 09:53 PM

CONCACAF 4 LYFE

Critch 06-27-2007 10:05 PM

Main thing about tonight's game was that it showed Brazil can't play a B team and expect to win anything anymore. That was as bad a Brazil team as I've seen.

So far it's been 4 good games, but the refereeing and the atmosphere in the stadiums has been lacking.

cthomer5000 06-27-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch (Post 1489361)
Main thing about tonight's game was that it showed Brazil can't play a B team and expect to win anything anymore. That was as bad a Brazil team as I've seen.

So far it's been 4 good games, but the refereeing and the atmosphere in the stadiums has been lacking.


Im not too sure the offsides call wasnt right there. Hard to deny that a guy in the 8 yard box isnt interfering with the play.

Critch 06-27-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1489370)
Im not too sure the offsides call wasnt right there. Hard to deny that a guy in the 8 yard box isnt interfering with the play.


Yeah, that one was at least defendable. The Peru and Chile offsides, plus the Venezuela last minute penalty were a bit more clear cut.

Mr. Wednesday 06-27-2007 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1489335)
They didnt gut their team like the US did, but they dont have the same squad either I dont believe

Borgetti and Guardado out due to injury
Pardo, Osorio, and Salcido (I think) out due to European demands
I might be missing one or two on top of that.

They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron :p).

Mr. Wednesday 06-27-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch (Post 1489374)
Yeah, that one was at least defendable. The Peru and Chile offsides, plus the Venezuela last minute penalty were a bit more clear cut.

There were two bad offsides calls in the Ecuador-Chile game in the second half, one each way, so they kinda evened out. (Gol TV's feed didn't replay the one that went against Ecuador, but I did check it on my Tivo.)

Critch 06-27-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1489387)
They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron :p).


Their backup goalkeeper did ok.

Blade6119 06-27-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch (Post 1489393)
Their backup goalkeeper did ok.


Francisco Guillermo Ochoa has long been labeled the future gk for mexico, and has garnered a lot of interest from europe. I dont think its much of a stretch to consider him the best mexican gk, but like keller and the US, sanchez gets starts due to his experience.

cuervo72 06-28-2007 09:03 AM

Is this thread about a Spanish-Language superhero? Do we need a spoiler tag?

moriarty 06-28-2007 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1489387)
They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron :p).


The funny thing is Castillo starts for their 'B' team which might make them better than their 'A' team. :)

Mr. Wednesday 06-28-2007 12:34 PM

I was talking about the Gold Cup final, which was their best game in the tournament by a fair margin from all reports, and Castillo started in that game.

Someone said on BigSoccer that they only carried over something like three starters from the GC final. In addition to the guys I mentioned earlier, Medina also suffered an injury.

moriarty 06-28-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1489758)
I was talking about the Gold Cup final, which was their best game in the tournament by a fair margin from all reports, and Castillo started in that game.

Someone said on BigSoccer that they only carried over something like three starters from the GC final. In addition to the guys I mentioned earlier, Medina also suffered an injury.


Ah, ignore me. I don't know what the hell I was referring to. :o I think i was mixing Castillo and Blanco up.

astrosfan64 06-28-2007 01:20 PM

So who do you think our starting lineup will be?

Mr. Wednesday 06-28-2007 03:32 PM

Somebody on BigSoccer divined the following from allocation of players in a Studio 90 segment:

Keller - Wynne, DeMerit, Conrad, Bornstein - Olsen, Clark, Feilhaber, Mapp - Johnson, Twellman

I'd be a little surprised by the Johnson-Twellman pairing, and by Bornstein playing instead of Pearce, but otherwise it's about what I would have expected (modulo uncertainty about whether Keller or Guzan would be the primary keeper in this tournament).

astrosfan64 06-28-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1489889)
Somebody on BigSoccer divined the following from allocation of players in a Studio 90 segment:

Keller - Wynne, DeMerit, Conrad, Bornstein - Olsen, Clark, Feilhaber, Mapp - Johnson, Twellman

I'd be a little surprised by the Johnson-Twellman pairing, and by Bornstein playing instead of Pearce, but otherwise it's about what I would have expected (modulo uncertainty about whether Keller or Guzan would be the primary keeper in this tournament).


I'm pretty excited to see the Feilhaber and Clark paining in the middle. I also really like Mapp.

It will be interesting to see how Wynne will do.

Blade6119 06-28-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1489944)
I'm pretty excited to see the Feilhaber and Clark paining in the middle. I also really like Mapp.

It will be interesting to see how Wynne will do.


For once i agree with you, though like mr. w im sad to see bornstein starting over pearce

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 07:34 PM

Can someone tell Colombia the tournament is underway?

MJ4H 06-28-2007 07:41 PM

I think they just got told.

Flasch186 06-28-2007 07:58 PM

woohoo

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 07:58 PM

dream start

VPI97 06-28-2007 07:59 PM

HELL YEAH

VPI97 06-28-2007 08:00 PM

D'oh!

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 08:00 PM

come on guys, come the fuck on

Critch 06-28-2007 08:01 PM

Friggin directv. It's not even raining that hard.

Flasch186 06-28-2007 08:01 PM

boohoo

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:05 PM

fuckers! I forgot the game was on at 8:30 and just watched an hour of the nfl draft and missed the first 15 minutes. how are we 1-1 already? who scored?

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:10 PM

nice play by mapp there!

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:13 PM

omg...is that Veron I just saw?? when did he get a call-up to the ARG squad again?

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:13 PM

hahah. EJ just got STRIPPED

VPI97 06-28-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1490208)
fuckers! I forgot the game was on at 8:30 and just watched an hour of the nfl draft and missed the first 15 minutes. how are we 1-1 already? who scored?

Eddie Johnson breakaway + great pass = EJ taken down from behind in the box. He converted the penalty only to see Argentina answer less than two minutes later.

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:18 PM

the boys are playing better than I expected they would, tbh. they're keeping up for the most part

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 08:20 PM

Bornstein playing fantastic so far

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 08:35 PM

good half boys!

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 08:41 PM

I fear the last 15 minutes are going to be a non-stop assault on the USA goal. Argentina can bring in some difference makers against tiring guys while we can just bring in fresh legs really.

Critch 06-28-2007 08:41 PM

Whoever that is in the studio with Ray Hudson has a normal sized head but an absolutely massive body. It's like he's wearing a padded suit.

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch (Post 1490288)
Whoever that is in the studio with Ray Hudson has a normal sized head but an absolutely massive body. It's like he's wearing a padded suit.


Phile Schoen, and it's so true. When I first saw him that was my exact thought.

moriarty 06-28-2007 08:43 PM

Good half. Complete F-up on that set piece though ... looked like 7 guys played offside trap and 3 guys didn't get the message (I think Wynne actually played him on).

We need some work on our set pieces (both offensive/defensive) and we need to keep the ball a bit after a turnover ... but impressive for this squad to hang together like they have.

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 08:51 PM

if we can weather the early storm and sit back and counter-attack we could come out of this with a good result. Don't know that we have the talent to convert the limited # of chances we would get though.

either way...key is to weather the initial storm as ARG is sure to come out fired-up

Blade6119 06-28-2007 09:04 PM

I may be mistaken, but havent we had penalty kicks in like our last 7 games? We have no offense other then dive and pray

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 09:12 PM

keller shoulda had that

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 09:14 PM

nice play by Argentina, but that ball was practically right where you would have wanted it if you were keeper.

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 09:25 PM

how the FUCK did they just let him run in there unmarked!?!?!?

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 09:25 PM

the fatigue kicked in about 15 minutes earlier than i expected... this could get ugly by the end if they arent careful

astrosfan64 06-28-2007 09:27 PM

I tired of Keller in goal.

cthomer5000 06-28-2007 09:27 PM

Frankensteain (Tevez) is on the field.. look out!

DaddyTorgo 06-28-2007 09:28 PM

off comes messi & on comes tevez? that's really not fair.

"Hi we're going to take off one wunderkid and put on another."


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