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FrogMan 07-03-2007 12:28 PM

BATracer general discussion (also if you're looking for a teammate)
 
anybody up for an F1-2007 season with me. I just protected the Super Aguri team with password fofc in the public game of F1-2007. It's not a super team, but it looks like it can have extreme good performances...

Password good for 30 minutes I think...

FM

SirFozzie 07-03-2007 12:55 PM

I'm in, Frogz.. :D

FrogMan 07-03-2007 12:56 PM

was getting nervous :)

Welcome aboard, this should be fun.

FM

FrogMan 07-08-2007 01:10 PM

I've changed the title of the thread since I'm looking for another teammate.

The series is now the public F1 2002 series and I'm with BAR, password is good for 30 minutes and is fofc.

http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&15972

BAR is a middle of the road team and I'm only curious to see if I can do better than what Jacques Villeneuve did with that team. :)

FM

FrogMan 07-08-2007 01:15 PM

also, to get some talking going, what is your favorite series you've run in. I'm currently trying my luck as a single team driver in a V8 Supercars series and let me tell you, it's quite a challenge. We've done the two Adelaide races and we'll start having events with 3 races bundled together. The second one will always be a reverse grid start where you take the finishing position of the first race and reverse that order to give out starting position. Gonna cause some interesting interaction...

FM

bbor 07-08-2007 01:17 PM

I did a BTCC series and had my ass handed to me...definatly challenging.

FrogMan 07-08-2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1496723)
I did a BTCC series and had my ass handed to me...definatly challenging.



funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.

The password has expired but the seat is still available if anybody is interested...

FM

bbor 07-08-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1496739)
funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.



FM


I uhh...pretty much hate you

:D

Brillig 07-08-2007 05:17 PM

So, anyone have any tips on driver settings? I've got some feel for the rest of the game but driver settings are darts on the wall at this point.

FrogMan 07-08-2007 05:54 PM

don't want to spoil it for SirFozzie, but I had to share this, the qualifying session at Bahrain...

Position
Runs
Driver Team Time
1
3
Steve Gougeon
Super Aguri
Super Aguri
Honda RA807E
Bridgestone
1:30.302
2
3
Tom Roblek
BMW Sauber
BMW Sauber
BMW P86/7
Bridgestone
+0.047
1:30.349
3
3
David Yellope
Super Aguri
Super Aguri
Honda RA807E
Bridgestone
+0.200
1:30.502


Take that you Ferraris, McLaren and others... :D

FM

vex 07-08-2007 10:29 PM

I'm in 5 games right now. 2 I'm doing great in, 1 I'm doing good, and the other two, I don't want to talk about:)



id# Game Name Champ Pos Status Created
15879 Le Mans Endurance Series P2 Mid Ohio
Warmup NOW
Race: 7 hr 8 min

[ Edit Notes ]

01:49 Thursday
15849 A1GP P23 Eurospeedway Sprint
Warmup NOW
Race: 1 hr 32 min

[ Edit Notes ]

22:37 Tuesday
15743 F1 2007 P6 Monaco
Practice NOW
Qualifying: 19 hr 41 min

[ Edit Notes ]

Academy Game: Closer Performance Cars
02:57 Sun 1
15664 BTCC Generic Championship P12 Thruxton Feature
Practice NOW
Qualifying: 14 hr 27 min

[ Edit Notes ]

Academy Game: Closer Performance Cars
Mid-Season
Wed 27 Jun
15590 FOFC Indy Car P1 Belle Isle Park
Practice NOW
Qualifying: 1 hr 22 min

[ Edit Notes ]

Private
Mon 25 Jun

Scoobz0202 07-09-2007 12:16 AM

I kept skipping the BATracer threads in my lurking. Checked out a BATracer thread tonight and just joined my first public league. Game looks interesting. Opened up the Honda team, so here goes......

SirFozzie 07-09-2007 03:28 PM

Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda

FrogMan 07-09-2007 04:18 PM

aww man, that's not nice. I've got 10 on my plate at the moment and there you are, tempting me like that... :)

I'll hold off a bit...

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 04:18 PM

dola, did I tell ya I'm fairly addicted to this game... :D

FM

DanGarion 07-09-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1497862)
Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda


I'm in.

I was just about to ask everyone what we are looking to do after the current Cart season is over.

FrogMan 07-09-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangarion (Post 1497930)
I'm in.

I was just about to ask everyone what we are looking to do after the current Cart season is over.


I'm sure FOFCers can team up in plenty of private/public series on top of the regular FOFC series of the moment...

I'm enjoying working with SirFozzie in our Super Aguri series a whole lot at the moment.

FM

SirFozzie 07-09-2007 04:57 PM

Yeah, we're doing really well as a small team (Of course, our cars seem to be made of paper mache at times).. but it proves that if you work together well, the little guys can compete

FrogMan 07-09-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1497936)
Yeah, we're doing really well as a small team (Of course, our cars seem to be made of paper mache at times).. but it proves that if you work together well, the little guys can compete


yes, and you should take a look at the "have a gloat" threads in their forums. Always impressive to see a guy win a championship with a Spyker. :eek:

FM

DanGarion 07-09-2007 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1497931)
I'm sure FOFCers can team up in plenty of private/public series on top of the regular FOFC series of the moment...

I'm enjoying working with SirFozzie in our Super Aguri series a whole lot at the moment.

FM


Yeah I joined the Williams team that Fozzie just posted. I'm sure it will be better then my last F1 series. My teammate has a lot of experience so that will either be a good thing, or it will go bad as he sours because of my playing style :).

FrogMan 07-09-2007 05:11 PM

oh, so Fozz is still all alone with his Honda then? hrm, tempting... :)

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 05:13 PM

one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1496739)
funny, I'm currently in a BTCC production series and leading the championship after 3 races. That's where I got my first ever pole, then first ever win, in two separate races however.

The password has expired but the seat is still available if anybody is interested...

FM


Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1496742)
I uhh...pretty much hate you

:D


you can stop hating me, you transfered your hatred to my car today. Had 4 bad events in a race where I was trying to come from the back line. Had a bad start, 2 driver errors, and an engine problem that left me limping back home, bleh. Maybe I overdid it on the driving strategy sliders trying to gain all those positions back...

In my V8 series, I also had some mechanical problems and again limped back home, but it was very important that I did so. It was the first race of a three race weekend. The second race is that reverse grid I mentionned, however, only cars who finished the first race get to have their starting position reversed from their finishing position in the previous race, all the non finishers start from the back of the grid. Because of that, I will start 2nd tomorrow, in front of many much faster car. Should be fun... :D

FM

DanGarion 07-09-2007 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1497955)
one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM

Damn. That's a great one to know. I can't remember what I choose for this league...

FrogMan 07-09-2007 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangarion (Post 1497964)
Damn. That's a great one to know. I can't remember what I choose for this league...


go to season standings, then you can choose to see the driver characteristics for everyone. I need to do that for most my series, as I never remember which one has it...

FM

Scoobz0202 07-09-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1497862)
Game ID is 15978 and there's no password.

If you have a Private Race open, feel free to join in. I'm on team honda



You feel comfortable with a total newbie as a partner, or is that something you would prefer to have a more experienced partner in.

SirFozzie 07-09-2007 07:22 PM

I welcome everyone.. :)

FrogMan 07-09-2007 08:46 PM

good show on the third place Foz, right behind the two BMW Sauber, that's impressive...

Shame that my papier maché of a car had to break down, again...

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 08:47 PM

dola, don't know about you, but I was cheering wildly when we both ended up in 1st and 2nd in lap 4 with you registering the fastest lap at the time. Yeah, it was only lap 4, but who cares, it was awesome... :D

Go Go Aguri!!!

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillig (Post 1496832)
So, anyone have any tips on driver settings? I've got some feel for the rest of the game but driver settings are darts on the wall at this point.


It's still pretty much the darts thing for me too. I'm experimenting a lot. Depending on if my car is a dependable one or not, I might lower the mechanical sympathy slider. I've found that going above 80 on about any slider is sometimes a risky business.

The tyre use slider goes without saying I'd say. I base it on what my engineer says my tires will last. If he say they might last half the race and I plan only one stop, I'll lower it way down. But if he says half the race and I plan on two stops, then I'll push it to above 70, since the tires now only have to last a third of the race each.

I guess we're all pretty much trying stuff at this point...

FM

Brillig 07-09-2007 09:03 PM

I'm getting a little more feel for the sliders. Pace and aggression seem okay set high (70-ish). Mech sympathy is very touchy, I've been setting that down to 35 and have had some clean races now. Even at 50 it was problematic.
I learned to crank the wet tire use, since they don't wear down much at all. Obvious but I missed it the first time.
Pit stops are also pretty touchy. I had problems at 60, have tried 55 which seems better. There also seems to be a trend for lower mechanic settings, but I haven't had issues leaving it at 50.
Dunno about the start.

DanGarion 07-09-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1497968)
go to season standings, then you can choose to see the driver characteristics for everyone. I need to do that for most my series, as I never remember which one has it...

FM


Nice I picked thinker. And speed demon.

FrogMan 07-09-2007 10:00 PM

if anybody wants to cherry pick, an F1 2002 public series just opened, only one Ferrari taken and nothing else...

I'm never around when they open new ones, and when I am, I've got no more public game slots left, heh.

FM

Alan T 07-09-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1498160)
if anybody wants to cherry pick, an F1 2002 public series just opened, only one Ferrari taken and nothing else...

I'm never around when they open new ones, and when I am, I've got no more public game slots left, heh.

FM

No thanks,
no desire to be Mj curtis's team mate :)

FrogMan 07-09-2007 10:06 PM

dola, posting that thing reminded me of something I wanted to post. Car comparisons I've saved as cheat sheets so far for two F1 carsets...

Here's the F1 2002:


And the F1 2007:


And here's the legend explaining things:


You can find them by going under "Results", "Car Comparion" in a series. Some series don't have them, like ChampCar or A1GP (where all cars are exactly the same), but it helps when you have one, at least you know what you are getting into.

Looking at that, you can also appreciate why SirFozzie and me are happy being competitive even just a little bit while driving the Super Aguri team...

Don't mind the points and yellow backgrounds, they represent points in my series and the yellow is for the team I was driving at the moment I took the screenie...

FM

FrogMan 07-09-2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1498163)
No thanks,
no desire to be Mj curtis's team mate :)



Don't know him and would probably have looked around before signing up. My point was more that a couple other very good teams were available in that series and somebody could have locked one up with a password to team up with another FOFCer... :)

FM

Brillig 07-09-2007 10:09 PM

Yeah, the cherry-picking... is a problem. If they fixed that I'd buy KT. Well, that and the 'idiot teammate' problem.

Brillig 07-09-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1497955)
one thing I learned yesterday. When you have the thinker characteristic for your driver, you can run all of your practice/warmup laps with 100 experimentation and you will never have either of the overenthusiasm message nor a crash. That's one big advantage to know about...

FM


Interesting that in your A1GP dynasty, no one chose Thinker. You'd think that'd be of the most use when you don't have a teammate.

kingfc22 07-09-2007 11:27 PM

Well, I might have my internet issue solved after a month of frustration.

Time to get back in this.

SirFozzie 07-10-2007 12:04 AM

BTW, CART guys?

It's not demolition derby, you know.

Scoobz0202 07-10-2007 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1498040)
I welcome everyone.. :)


Ah, I logged off just before you responded and see somebody already grabbed the spot. Will have to try harder next time :)

vex 07-10-2007 12:40 AM

A1GP is KILLING me. I'm in freakin last place.

FrogMan 07-10-2007 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillig (Post 1498176)
Interesting that in your A1GP dynasty, no one chose Thinker. You'd think that'd be of the most use when you don't have a teammate.


Thinker and charismatic are not available in the A1GP, or else, I would have picked it :)

FM

Brillig 07-10-2007 07:04 AM

What the heck does charismatic do? Keep your teammate from being a tool?? :)

FrogMan 07-10-2007 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillig (Post 1498272)
What the heck does charismatic do? Keep your teammate from being a tool?? :)


here are all the traits...
Quote:

Mechanical Sympathy. You are able to gently stroke and convince your car home to the finish line.

Wet Weather Warrior. In wet conditions you really shine, able to put in a fast lap and attack the competition regardless.

Pole Sitter King. One off fast laps are your speciality - enjoy a healthy bonus during your fight for pole and find speed when you need it most in a race.

Speed Demon. You don't shine in one particular area: but instead are generally fast be it dry, wet or going for pole.

Consistent. Being able to setup a good rhythm allows you to stay within your limits: and on the track.

Super Fit. Taking personal fitness to the extreme gives you great stamina throughout the duration of an entire race.

Concentration. When out on the circuit on your own you can turn in a steady state of speed without the visible benchmark of another car.

Lucky. More often than not, you always seem to avoid the worst share of luck in your team.

Committed. You have full belief in yourself, your car and your team - and this shows in your ultimate results.

Cool. In the thick of the action you are at your best, being able to overtake and pull off difficult manouveres.

Aggressive. Battling for position your opponents should beware - you won't think twice about letting them know who is boss.

Control Freak. As the lights turn green your opponents can't see you for dust as you perfectly judge clutch, throttle and available traction.

Wisdom. Experience from countless competitive events makes you a formidable foe to your rivals.

Spatial Awareness. You are able to judge your car perfectly allowing for every inch of the track to be used, and every overtaking opportunity to be exploited.

Bender. Bending the rules is your game - if there is a loop hole you can and will exploit it!



Thinker. Correctly analysing your car and it's setup is a great strength to have.

Charisma. People love you and just want to help out: you always get the most attention from your team.

I'm guessing it means faster pitstops as your crew will like to work for you...

FM

SirFozzie 07-10-2007 09:16 AM

Either that or you get more practice runs then your teammate

DanGarion 07-10-2007 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1498203)
BTW, CART guys?

It's not demolition derby, you know.


Fricken breaks!

Brillig 07-10-2007 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1498330)
here are all the traits...


I'm guessing it means faster pitstops as your crew will like to work for you...

FM


Heh, it sounded useless to me, I was wondering if you had some inside scoop on it since you said you would have picked it...

kurtism 07-10-2007 10:53 AM

Firing up a public ChampCar team, password protected for 30 minutes under "Dola"

FrogMan 07-10-2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillig (Post 1498350)
Heh, it sounded useless to me, I was wondering if you had some inside scoop on it since you said you would have picked it...



nope, meant I would have picked thinker in a single driver team for sure. Don't care much about charismatic as it.s too vague for me...

FM


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