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MizzouRah 07-12-2007 09:52 PM

Pee Wee football 12 yr old
 
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...011#addcomment

Posted from another site I visit. This kid is fun to watch!

Ksyrup 07-12-2007 10:01 PM

Hey Mom! The guys say I make it rain on dem ho's!

RedKingGold 07-12-2007 10:04 PM

Too late for Missouri, I heard Pete Carroll already has him locked in to a verbal.

Poli 07-12-2007 10:12 PM

Witness the magic of the double wing!

MizzouRah 07-12-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1500522)
Witness the magic of the double wing!


:D

Poli 07-12-2007 10:17 PM

I'm loving it. Makes me want to say screw it and go out and start coaching again this year.

M GO BLUE!!! 07-12-2007 10:41 PM

Eh, I think I could tackle him... :D

BrianD 07-12-2007 10:51 PM

That kid has some nice moves.

BYU 14 07-12-2007 11:04 PM

Wow, he has great instincts for a 12 year old.....oh yeah his speed and footwork are not too bad either. I have 3 years to get his parent to move to Avondale AZ :)

CraigSca 07-12-2007 11:18 PM

That's a white kid? At what age do white kids become slow again?

rowech 07-12-2007 11:30 PM

He just seems to be mentally on a different plane than the kids he's playing against. Not to mention his offensive line is really good.

Senator 07-13-2007 12:01 AM

I bet I can get him to play for my 12 year old pee wee team here in Southlake Carroll.

Senator 07-13-2007 12:15 AM

Dola:

Ok, two quick observations. Stop kicking the ball to him. Onside or something, but stop giving him opportunities like that.
Second, he has one running play. Left side of the line. With a Sam or Willie LB spy, knock his feet out every play. Get in his head, knock him down every play.

Sorry, I just coached this age group, and I went into, how do we stop this kid mode, when I was watching this. I had to do that alot. We scouted and had tape on every team we played. Things sure are different than when I played Pee Wee.

johnnyshaka 07-13-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca (Post 1500564)
That's a white kid? At what age do white kids become slow again?


Puberty.

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 1500510)
Too late for Missouri, I heard Pete Carroll already has him locked in to a verbal.



Excellent. He's already wearing the right number.

Young Drachma 07-13-2007 10:19 AM

He was certainly a class ahead of his peers on that level. Doesn't mean a whole lot now, but from having coaching kids in a different sport, it's always awesome to watch kids play way above their heads consistently. I like to keep it in perspective, though, rather than trying to translate that to future success. Because inevitably, you'll be disappointed more times than not and it's not a reflection on the other talents the kid might have.

Whoa, that was a little deep. Didn't mean for that to happen.

Poli 07-13-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1500609)
Dola:

Ok, two quick observations. Stop kicking the ball to him. Onside or something, but stop giving him opportunities like that.
Second, he has one running play. Left side of the line. With a Sam or Willie LB spy, knock his feet out every play. Get in his head, knock him down every play.

Sorry, I just coached this age group, and I went into, how do we stop this kid mode, when I was watching this. I had to do that alot. We scouted and had tape on every team we played. Things sure are different than when I played Pee Wee.


Actually, that was about 3 different running plays. :)

Sweep, toss, counter. I thought I saw another that I wasn't familiar with as well (being a double wing coach, that is). They look similar, though. Love that double wing.

We had teams line up 9 guys on the defensive line. I'd take that all day.

MacroGuru 07-13-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1500875)
Actually, that was about 3 different running plays. :)

Sweep, toss, counter. I thought I saw another that I wasn't familiar with as well (being a double wing coach, that is). They look similar, though. Love that double wing.

We had teams line up 9 guys on the defensive line. I'd take that all day.


LOL, I know we have gotten into this debate multiple times over the years with you...but a Disciplined Defense can shred the Double Wing...it's just rare to get the defense with the kind of discipline needed to stop it. But when I was DC for the high school team here, we were the only team to stop the Double Wing attack that wrecked havok that year.

It was all about Discipline and a MLB that was smart enough to watch game film, and know where to audible the defensive shift.

Senator 07-13-2007 03:38 PM

+1

But that counter was a thing of beauty.

Emiliano 07-13-2007 06:19 PM

Amazing clip, really.

For you real football coaches out there: do you see a lot of kids like this one? I mean, would that be considered "special talent", or it's just common at that level (as all sports), to have one kid that simply dominates the field? Yeah, I know you can't really judge from a clip, it's just my curiosity.

It's obvious that I've never watched pee-wee football. :D

BYU 14 07-13-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 1500889)
LOL, I know we have gotten into this debate multiple times over the years with you...but a Disciplined Defense can shred the Double Wing...it's just rare to get the defense with the kind of discipline needed to stop it. But when I was DC for the high school team here, we were the only team to stop the Double Wing attack that wrecked havok that year.

It was all about Discipline and a MLB that was smart enough to watch game film, and know where to audible the defensive shift.



I'll add to this since we have a Double Wing Team in our region. So many teams will stack the the Box with 8 or 9 guys, and that plays right into the offenses hands since the Toss play is designed to outnumber you at the POA and create a seam. Once they get that there is nobody back to prevent a big play.

We always play a 4-4 against this Offense and are 7-1 against Teams that run it over the last few years. We scheme our line to slant to a gap on the side motion is coming to to split/absorb the double team and allow our backers a free run. The Corner on the side motion comes to will key the Wing on his side for counter and make that call if he jab steps, if he down blocks he comes right now to leverage the Sweep.

On the backside our Rover or Sam will slow play to be in position for counter and the backside end will play boot or wrong shoulder the pulling guard on counter to spill the Wing Back outside. We have spent a lot of time studying the Offense cause a couple of us on the staff actually do like it, so we have been pretty successful against it. The one loss was when we just faced a better team, Trung Canidate's (Rams) little brother Cornell was one of their Wings and he just killed us, that Kid was amazing.

Still I think it's a great youth Offense and pretty good at the high School level if you have some agility on the line and a couple of really good Wings. With the exception of the Toss play, most of the blocking schemes (Trap, Sweep, Counter, G) are Wing T schemes, just with tighter line splits. I will say this about the double Wing, you need to have depth on the D-line, because the constant pounding they take from the Double Teams is brutal.

Senator 07-13-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Emiliano (Post 1501256)
Amazing clip, really.

For you real football coaches out there: do you see a lot of kids like this one? I mean, would that be considered "special talent", or it's just common at that level (as all sports), to have one kid that simply dominates the field? Yeah, I know you can't really judge from a clip, it's just my curiosity.

It's obvious that I've never watched pee-wee football. :D


I seem to see one lights out kid at this level every year. We had one on another team that had 44 touchdowns in 10 games, most of which came outside 20 yards.

He played 7-9 yards off the ball, and we beat him with a flurry of blitzes. As long as we made contact with him in the backfield, we could gang tackle him, but if broke containment, nobody was going to catch him.

Poli 07-13-2007 09:13 PM

I won't argue, BYU, but I'm fairly certain you know what my answers would be to the defense. Those are solid calls, I'll give you that.

Carman Bulldog 07-13-2007 11:08 PM

Rumour is that this kid is only 8 years old.

EagleFan 07-13-2007 11:12 PM

Not sure what the rules are in Pee Wee leagues but what I was the most impressed with was his handing of the football to the ref after the touchdown ala Barry Sanders. He's already acting like he's been there before, and will be there again.

IMetTrentGreen 07-14-2007 01:48 AM

Quote:

or you real football coaches out there: do you see a lot of kids like this one?

Fuck no. We may never hear of this kid again because you never know who will fill out, but he's oozing talent. He has one in a million talent, literally.

Now we'll just see how athletic he ends up.

WSUCougar 07-14-2007 01:57 PM

There's a few pee wee jock straps laying on the turf after that. I know #45 left his.

LoneStarGirl 07-14-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1500600)
I bet I can get him to play for my 12 year old pee wee team here in Southlake Carroll.


I didn't know you were from texas

Noop 07-14-2007 02:50 PM

Not to hate on the kid but growing up I saw alot of people like him. The best being Santana Moss and Roscoe Parrish...

Senator 07-14-2007 06:18 PM

This is 3 of the 44 touchdowns that Camden Ross had in the spring select league. He looks slow, but no one could bring him down or catch him once he got clear. He is only 10, so he has some development to go. I wish he had been on my team.

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Poli 07-14-2007 06:45 PM

Is that a broken bone or a near/far set?

Senator 07-14-2007 06:50 PM

near/far

BYU 14 07-14-2007 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1501677)
This is 3 of the 44 touchdowns that Camden Ross had in the spring select league. He looks slow, but no one could bring him down or catch him once he got clear. He is only 10, so he has some development to go. I wish he had been on my team.



What impressed me about that clip was the first run and how his team mates set up a wall when he reversed his field and continued to block down field for him. Very impressive for a 10 yr old Team, they are very well Coached.

astrosfan64 07-15-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1501677)
This is 3 of the 44 touchdowns that Camden Ross had in the spring select league. He looks slow, but no one could bring him down or catch him once he got clear. He is only 10, so he has some development to go. I wish he had been on my team.

[IMG] [/IMG]


Not bad, but that first kid in the thread was by far and away better then this guy.

dj_morton 07-15-2007 02:06 PM

Not sure if someone mentioned this, but that kid plays like Reggie Bush!

Senator 07-15-2007 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1502017)
Not bad, but that first kid in the thread was by far and away better then this guy.


I agree. But then again, he is 2 years older than this kid.

johnnyshaka 07-16-2007 12:26 AM

After doing a little googling...

From the coaches mouth himself ----

Cody is NOT 8 years old, he is 13 years old. The film fottage you’re watching is from our season last year (when he was 12years). They are of our first Regional game agaiinst Valencia Park (San Diego, CA); and our 2 Pop Warner Superbowl games vs Holliston Panthers (Red and white) and the San Marin Colts (Green and Yellow). We won all three of those games to go 15-0 and become the 2006 Pop Warner National Champions D-2 PEE WEE level (Warner Bracket).

The coaching he received and the players surrounding him were just as great. The prior 2 years, Cody played for another team, along with #20 that first year, and they amassed only 2 touchdowns in those years. The offensive line in front of him were outsized all year, and yet they were able to open up holes that a Mac-truck could go thru untouched. They were, and are, ALL awesome.

In closing please, know that Cody was a part of a GREAT team that did amazing things (last year was our second trip to Florida (back to Back) to coompete for the national Championship). All the players and their families made the coaching experience beyond phenominal. I am pleased, to know and have worked with them all. I do sincerely hope that this serves to clear up any misconceptions about Cody and the rest of 2006 Los Alamitos PEE WEE GRIFFINS!

SIncerely,

Christopher Austin


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