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stevew 12-20-2007 01:44 PM

NFL Week 16
 
Steelers/Rams on NFL network tonight.

Hopefully Gum Ball is sick again. In leiu of that, Bruce Arians' play calling will most likely make me vomit in my mouth again tonight. I expect the Rams to abuse the Steelers secondary tonight, and it to be a pretty convincing win for STL. Tomlin better have the guys motivated.

RomaGoth 12-20-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620227)
Steelers/Rams on NFL network tonight.

Hopefully Gum Ball is sick again. In leiu of that, Bruce Arians' play calling will most likely make me vomit in my mouth again tonight. I expect the Rams to abuse the Steelers secondary tonight, and it to be a pretty convincing win for STL. Tomlin better have the guys motivated.


I am beginning to suspect that the Steelers are the only outdoor team that plays better indoors. How else do you explain losing at home in the snow to a Florida team (Jags)?

MikeVic 12-20-2007 02:28 PM

http://ruinromo.com/

RomaGoth 12-20-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1620271)


The absolute hilarity of this aside, you must have A LOT of free time on your hands. :)

MikeVic 12-20-2007 02:37 PM

Me?

RomaGoth 12-20-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1620278)
Me?


Yeah...I have no idea where you guys find some of this stuff. ;)

MikeVic 12-20-2007 02:42 PM

It was sent in a work e-mail haha. I just passed it on to here because I thought her eyes looked really freaky, and that it was a funny idea.

RomaGoth 12-20-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1620284)
It was sent in a work e-mail haha. I just passed it on to here because I thought her eyes looked really freaky, and that it was a funny idea.


Well I agree with you on that one. She is just nasty no matter who you are.....:eek:

Jas_lov 12-20-2007 02:58 PM

The Packers absolutely destroyed the Rams last week. But rest assured, the Steelers are not even close to being on the Packers level. I think the Steelers will lose this game and the Browns will win the AFC North. They deserve it. I'm just glad that this game is on national TV so that the whole nation can watch it.

Lathum 12-20-2007 07:41 PM

Willie Parker goes down early

henry296 12-20-2007 09:05 PM

Parker with broken fibula... most likely out for season.

korme 12-20-2007 09:10 PM

Got $40 on the Bengals/Browns.

(gulp)

Lathum 12-20-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281 (Post 1620495)
Got $40 on the Bengals/Browns.

(gulp)


$40 on what?

henry296 12-20-2007 09:26 PM

Not sure what happened to the Steelers defense, but they haven't laid a hand on Bulger all night. If the Steelers can't get pressure, their pass defense stinks.

RomaGoth 12-20-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 1620492)
Parker with broken fibula... most likely out for season.


Too bad that didn't happen about 6 weeks ago. At least they could play lousy for a better draft pick. I hate when my teams squeeze into the playoffs and then lose in the first round. No high draft pick + no championship = :mad: RomaGoth.

stevew 12-20-2007 09:54 PM

Parker getting hurt.....that blows.

henry296 12-20-2007 09:56 PM

While I love Willie, Najeh has been just as effective this season. For a couple of games I can live with him.

Raiders Army 12-21-2007 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 1620531)
I love Willie.

:eek:

Aylmar 12-21-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1620293)
The Packers absolutely destroyed the Rams last week. But rest assured, the Steelers are not even close to being on the Packers level. I think the Steelers will lose this game and the Browns will win the AFC North. They deserve it. I'm just glad that this game is on national TV so that the whole nation can watch it.


Good call. And you're right about the Browns, too. When is the last time they actually beat the Steelers? 2003? They do deserve the division title...

RomaGoth 12-21-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1620293)
The Packers absolutely destroyed the Rams last week. But rest assured, the Steelers are not even close to being on the Packers level. I think the Steelers will lose this game and the Browns will win the AFC North. They deserve it. I'm just glad that this game is on national TV so that the whole nation can watch it.


Huh. :eek:

Cringer 12-21-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1620293)
The Packers absolutely destroyed the Rams last week. But rest assured, the Steelers are not even close to being on the Packers level. I think the Steelers will lose this game and the Browns will win the AFC North. They deserve it. I'm just glad that this game is on national TV so that the whole nation can watch it.


I have become your official reality check when it comes to the Packers. The Packers didn't really destroy the Rams. The final score was high, but the Rams moved the ball pretty well and the Packer offense was not at it's best. The first half was real close, too. Good win, but it wasn't domination.

I agree the Packers should win a game against the Steelers though, but it wouldn't be a blowout.

Cringer 12-21-2007 09:45 AM

NFL Broadcast Ratings Rise as Patriots' Perfect Year Lures Fans

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=apvyu0xMt7m8

My two favorite parts of this article for some reason.....

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The NFL Network is selling ads for the Patriots' Dec. 29 season-finale against the New York Giants for more than $200,000 -- more than double the $85,000 it has received for ads during other games this season, MediaWeek reported. NFL Network spokesman Seth Palansky confirmed the figure.



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The Patriots' popularity encouraged CBS to choose Gillette Stadium in Foxborough as the location of its first restaurant. The 15,000-square-foot ``CBS Scene,'' a joint venture with the team, will open next season.

``It's not a business we've been in before,'' McManus said. ``But we thought it was a no-brainer to further associate ourselves with NFL football and the Patriots.''


RomaGoth 12-21-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1620714)
NFL Broadcast Ratings Rise as Patriots' Perfect Year Lures Fans

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=apvyu0xMt7m8

My two favorite parts of this article for some reason.....


I wonder if the CBS restaurant will feature cancelled food and crappy reality tv shows on the side. Just sayin'. :rolleyes:

Alan T 12-21-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1620714)
NFL Broadcast Ratings Rise as Patriots' Perfect Year Lures Fans

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=apvyu0xMt7m8

My two favorite parts of this article for some reason.....


Having watched most of the pats games this year, I don't really see alot that cries out to me as the Officials trying to help the Pats remain undefeated. I've seen some bad calls in their favor, but also seen some bad calls against them.

Its stuff like this however that really bugs me about the NFL. They might be completely innocent of trying to ensure that the Pats remain undefeated for this game, but don't you have to remove all apperance of conflict of interest? I think everything about the NFL network trying to make a profit off of the pats this way is wrong, and really wish the NFL wouldn't do that. It places too much doubt in everyone's minds about motivation of calls.

molson 12-21-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1620750)
Having watched most of the pats games this year, I don't really see alot that cries out to me as the Officials trying to help the Pats remain undefeated. I've seen some bad calls in their favor, but also seen some bad calls against them.

Its stuff like this however that really bugs me about the NFL. They might be completely innocent of trying to ensure that the Pats remain undefeated for this game, but don't you have to remove all apperance of conflict of interest? I think everything about the NFL network trying to make a profit off of the pats this way is wrong, and really wish the NFL wouldn't do that. It places too much doubt in everyone's minds about motivation of calls.


That kind of doubt has been around for the history of sports.

But it's so incredibly absurd to think that a league would mandate referees throw a game. When people suggest that as a serious possibility, it's just difficult to take anything else they say seriously.

There was an online poll once where more than 50% of people thought that the NBA referees were ordered by the league to help certain teams. Then a bunch of refs went to prison for tax evasion. Don't you think those refs would have utilized that info to help them out in that scenerio? Don't you think the Federal government would be interested? Look at that one gambling addict NBA ref from earlier this year - wouldn't he have talked by now?

You don't trust referees with your livliehood, or with your freedom. They WILL talk eventually, and you WILL go down. There's VERY little to gain to take that kind of risk.

Why haven't the NFL refs helped any other team go undefeated since 1972? Isn't 1 undefeated team every 35 years a resonable number to happen without outside inteference having to be involved?

stevew 12-21-2007 11:10 AM

Why is the media making a big deal about 16-0? 19-0 is the important metric, and really the only real way to compare the Pats to the 72 LOLphins. They have to win the title to finish this thing off. If my guys can't win this year, however, it would be nice to see jackasses like Mercury Morris shut up by the pats going unbeaten.

molson 12-21-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620758)
Why is the media making a big deal about 16-0?


Because no one's EVER done it?

stevew 12-21-2007 11:18 AM

Yeah, I mean, duh, nobody's been 16-0, but Patriots looking good in regular season is not the same thing as Lolphins running the regular season table and winning the superbowl. Hell, the Pats dropping the last 2 games of the regular season, going 14-2 and then winning the bowl is a helluva lot more impressive than going 16-0 and losing in the first round of the playoffs.

Alan T 12-21-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620763)
Yeah, I mean, duh, nobody's been 16-0, but Patriots looking good in regular season is not the same thing as Lolphins running the regular season table and winning the superbowl. Hell, the Pats dropping the last 2 games of the regular season, going 14-2 and then winning the bowl is a helluva lot more impressive than going 16-0 and losing in the first round of the playoffs.


Are there people who actually would consider a loss in the postseason an "undefeated season" I assume most people expect any undefeated season includes all the way to the superbowl. Going 18-1 without the championship makes you roughly one notch behind the 85 bears.

stevew 12-21-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1620771)
Are there people who actually would consider a loss in the postseason an "undefeated season" I assume most people expect any undefeated season includes all the way to the superbowl. Going 18-1 without the championship makes you roughly one notch behind the 85 bears.


All I know is that an awful lot of the promos I've seen on NFL NEtwork, etc, seem to be talking about them clinching a "perfect season" next week vs the Giants.

molson 12-21-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620763)
Yeah, I mean, duh, nobody's been 16-0, but Patriots looking good in regular season is not the same thing as Lolphins running the regular season table and winning the superbowl.


True. And if the Pats go 16-0, and then lose in the playoffs, it's a huge catastrophe for them, and a HUGE news story. So 16-0 is a big deal no matter what. It either means they go 19-0, or that have that historic loss.

Obviously, winning a super bowl is more important and impressive than anything anyone does in the regular season, this is clearly a more dominant team than the '72 dolphins. I know you can only play who's in front of you, but if we're talking history, it's relevant that the dolphins only beat two teams in the regular season with a winning record (and both of those finished 8-6). It was litterally one the easiest schedules in the history of the NFL. The Pats 14 wins is FAR more impressive.

molson 12-21-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620780)
All I know is that an awful lot of the promos I've seen on NFL NEtwork, etc, seem to be talking about them clinching a "perfect season" next week vs the Giants.


So you consider that proof that the fix is in? It couldn't just be that they're huge favorites in both games and they want to hype what seems likely?

stevew 12-21-2007 11:34 AM

I never said shit about there being a "fix" in.

molson 12-21-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620785)
I never said shit about there being a "fix" in.


You know what, I totally misinterpreted your comment, and that you responding to Alan T's post about a "perfect season" (I thougt we were still talking about referees fixing games, and took your post as implying that the NFL Network was assuming they'd win the last two games)

So, my bad.

Hammer755 12-21-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 1620509)
Too bad that didn't happen about 6 weeks ago. At least they could play lousy for a better draft pick. I hate when my teams squeeze into the playoffs and then lose in the first round. No high draft pick + no championship = :mad: RomaGoth.


At least you have a half-dozen more teams to fall back on. :)

finketr 12-21-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 1620763)
Yeah, I mean, duh, nobody's been 16-0, but Patriots looking good in regular season is not the same thing as Lolphins running the regular season table and winning the superbowl. Hell, the Pats dropping the last 2 games of the regular season, going 14-2 and then winning the bowl is a helluva lot more impressive than going 16-0 and losing in the first round of the playoffs.


i do believe the '72 dolphins were 16-0.

Jas_lov 12-21-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1620711)
I have become your official reality check when it comes to the Packers. The Packers didn't really destroy the Rams. The final score was high, but the Rams moved the ball pretty well and the Packer offense was not at it's best. The first half was real close, too. Good win, but it wasn't domination.

I agree the Packers should win a game against the Steelers though, but it wouldn't be a blowout.


You need to have some faith Cringer! All you do is build up the opponents whether its the horrific Lions, the hapless Rams, or the pathetic Bears! The Packers could win by 30 this Sunday and you'd still find faults in the performance! They could win the Superbowl and you'd still say that they could have done better! You don't get to 12-2 by accident! And why did everyone jump down my throat while leaving stevew alone? He thought it would be a Rams blowout! I was wrong! But I was still right about the final 3 in Survivor, so take that!

Scoobz0202 12-22-2007 01:53 AM

And the Cowboys don't get 12-2 by accident yet at times you seem to think they don't even deserve to be on the same playing field as the packers.

Sublime 2 12-22-2007 08:07 AM

WHOOO! Just bought myself an early Christmas present, Pats tickets for Sunday! A friend of mine has season tickets, he called me up and sold them to me for face value, so I'm pretty freakin giddy right now!

Cringer 12-22-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1620863)
You need to have some faith Cringer! All you do is build up the opponents whether its the horrific Lions, the hapless Rams, or the pathetic Bears! The Packers could win by 30 this Sunday and you'd still find faults in the performance! They could win the Superbowl and you'd still say that they could have done better! You don't get to 12-2 by accident! And why did everyone jump down my throat while leaving stevew alone? He thought it would be a Rams blowout! I was wrong! But I was still right about the final 3 in Survivor, so take that!


I have plenty of faith in the Packers. I also feel being a little realistic at times isn't bad though. Playing a certain way can get you a win against the Rams, while playing that same way would get you a loss to the Cowboys.

korme 12-22-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1620497)
$40 on what?


Take a wild guess Lathum! :)

JeeberD 12-22-2007 10:21 PM

Cowboys win 20-13. TO hurt. Not that I got to actually see any of the game.

Stupid NFL Network.
Stupid Missouri.

DaddyTorgo 12-22-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublime 2 (Post 1621118)
WHOOO! Just bought myself an early Christmas present, Pats tickets for Sunday! A friend of mine has season tickets, he called me up and sold them to me for face value, so I'm pretty freakin giddy right now!



wanna take me?? :D

sabotai 12-22-2007 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by finketr (Post 1620825)
i do believe the '72 dolphins were 16-0.


Yes, but I think everyone is just talking about the regular season when refering to 16-0. The regular season in '72 was only 14 games.

Crapshoot 12-22-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 1620509)
Too bad that didn't happen about 6 weeks ago. At least they could play lousy for a better draft pick. I hate when my teams squeeze into the playoffs and then lose in the first round. No high draft pick + no championship = :mad: RomaGoth.


Given you root for every team on the planet, I'm sure one of your teams has won a championship. :rolleyes:

Eaglesfan27 12-23-2007 12:07 PM

What a play early in the Eagles game, McNabb with a very good looking 45 yard run before the Saints punch it free from behind, but the ball goes sailing towards the endzone and is eventually knocked into the endzone by a Saints' player before Kevin Curtis falls on it in the endzone for a TD!

mckerney 12-23-2007 12:09 PM

Ugh, why are we not getting the New Orleans - Philly game on TV in Minneapolis? Guess it's listening to that game on the radio rather than watching Chicago - Green Bay or KC - Detroit.

Bearcat729 12-23-2007 12:18 PM

Browns have a nice drive only to have the holder botch a FG attempt.

DaddyTorgo 12-23-2007 12:23 PM

14-0 Buffalo??

And didn't people hold up the G-men as like the 3rd best team in the NFC??

wow

DaddyTorgo 12-23-2007 12:25 PM

IMO the Giants will never win a Superbowl with Eli. He's way too prone to throwing up ducks under pressure, and throughout his whole life, with a father and a brother being who they are hasn't shown any inclination to change that.


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