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Dblbogey31 12-25-2007 07:06 PM

Cowboys Fans: Am I missing something about Sunday's Game?
 
If Washington wins, they will make the playoffs as the 2nd Wild Card and play Seattle. If they win that game as they should we have to play a red hot Redskins team, winners of 5 straight by then. They should just play to win on Sunday and knock the Skins out. This may also be wishful thinking on my part. I was given tickets to the game by my wife this morning and want to see a good game. Should they roll over or play to win now?

EagleFan 12-25-2007 07:18 PM

Play everyone and hope for injuries. :D

Abe Sargent 12-25-2007 07:50 PM

Would you rather have a chance at playing the Skins or Adrian peterson and the Vikings?

Buccaneer 12-25-2007 08:04 PM

Peterson has been averaging about -2 yards per carry lately.

Joe 12-25-2007 08:08 PM

plus, playing against the vikings means you get to play against Tavares Jackson, thats much better than playing the skins.

Chief Rum 12-26-2007 12:07 AM

Hmm...

A) I see the Skins playing solid football. Hot? No. Just playing good football.
B) No way is there any credence to the statement "Skins should win that one" in context of beating the Seahawks. Anyone saying that clearly has not watched the Seahawks for several weeks. Outside of the Carolina game last week, Seattle has been playing some of the best football in the league since before Thanksgiving.
C) You're the freakin' Cowboys. Even you send out the practice squad next week and give up a gimme game, you're 13-3. If you're worried about the Skins with this team, don't even bother to show up for the playoffs.

EagleFan 12-26-2007 12:46 AM

Plus you need to be more worried about either Tampa or the Giants as that will most likely be your first opponent...

(seeing it's Cowboys fans, I understand the need to hold their hand when matters of thinking come up... :D )

Vinatieri for Prez 12-26-2007 04:04 AM

The 'Skins stink. That might be what you're missing.

Abe Sargent 12-26-2007 05:33 AM

Oh, and as a reminder, both the Skins and the Vikings, whichever make it, will be suffering from "We Already Won Our Super Bowl" syndrome. That's when a team does something amazing, then calls it a season and goes home Teams that shouldn't have made the playoffs, then make it it, before going home. MMaybe they win that one game, then dial it in later (see: Arizona Cardinals when Plummer managed to defeat the Cowboys on the road, and then watch the next game. Classic example of giving up and going home).

This syndrome does not apply to teams that honestly believe they can make it to the Super Bowl. Even if you were a combined 0-1000 over your last ten seasons, if you go 14-2 this season, you think you can win it all, but go 9-7 and make it in as the 6 seed, and you already won your Super Bowl, you just dial it in. Hence, the Rams never dialed it in, because although they were sucking like Darjeling during the previous years, they were dominant in their break out season.

JeeberD 12-26-2007 08:05 AM

First priority is get everyone healthy. When everyone's healthy, it doesn't matter who we face in the playoffs...

JAG 12-26-2007 08:46 AM

Of the potential division round matchups for Dallas, the teams I'd most love to see would be in order: Vikings, Giants, Saints / Bucs, Redskins. Dallas doesn't cover Cooley well and the Redskins don't turn the ball over much since Collins has been their QB.

IMetTrentGreen 12-27-2007 01:22 AM

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Peterson has been averaging about -2 yards per carry lately.

Classic Peterson. When you give him room to run, he will destroy you like nobody else can. But, make stopping him the priority, and he's invisible. He's just not elusive at all and has substandard vision. He'll just run to the called hole and right into a LB if you let him.

Look at his highlights this year. Almost always, his OL will be pushing people 5 yards downfield, he'll have a full head of steam, and guys will bounce of the side of him. He'll be hit or miss his entire career, until he hurts himself and has to retire.

That being said, I would not choose to play him in the playoffs, ever.

astrosfan64 12-27-2007 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1622577)
Hmm...

A) I see the Skins playing solid football. Hot? No. Just playing good football.
B) No way is there any credence to the statement "Skins should win that one" in context of beating the Seahawks. Anyone saying that clearly has not watched the Seahawks for several weeks. Outside of the Carolina game last week, Seattle has been playing some of the best football in the league since before Thanksgiving.
C) You're the freakin' Cowboys. Even you send out the practice squad next week and give up a gimme game, you're 13-3. If you're worried about the Skins with this team, don't even bother to show up for the playoffs.


The Seahawks are overrated. I mean what if you watched the Seahawks two weeks ago? Yeah, they were a real powerhouse when they lost to Carolina. Oh, beating up on the Rams and Ravens is real impressive.

Give me a break.

Vegas Vic 12-27-2007 02:55 AM

I defer to IMTG, since he is the most unbiased poster on this site in regard to Adrian Peterson.


Subby 12-27-2007 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1622600)
Oh, and as a reminder, both the Skins and the Vikings, whichever make it, will be suffering from "We Already Won Our Super Bowl" syndrome. That's when a team does something amazing, then calls it a season and goes home Teams that shouldn't have made the playoffs, then make it it, before going home. MMaybe they win that one game, then dial it in later (see: Arizona Cardinals when Plummer managed to defeat the Cowboys on the road, and then watch the next game. Classic example of giving up and going home).

You know a football theory is awesome when someone uses the Arizona Cardinals as a basis.

Stick to Magic.

Passacaglia 12-27-2007 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1623120)
The Seahawks are overrated.


You don't say?

astrosfan64 12-27-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1623195)
You don't say?


Indeed! I do say and with authority!

IMetTrentGreen 12-27-2007 12:56 PM

:D

Vic, you're a doll.


Chief Rum 12-27-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1623120)
The Seahawks are overrated. I mean what if you watched the Seahawks two weeks ago? Yeah, they were a real powerhouse when they lost to Carolina. Oh, beating up on the Rams and Ravens is real impressive.

Give me a break.


Got it. So pick one game outta the last seven and base your opinion around that, instead of noting that they have won six of seven, winning by 2 TDs on average in those six wins? Do you like to just pick the one thing that supports your argument and ignore the mountain of contrary evidence, or is that just in this one instance?

Yeah, so they took a shit when they went to Carolina. They are still playing some good football, and no one should be saying the Skins should beat the Seahawks, given that.

And, no, I am not a Seahawks fan at all. In fact, I'll be rooting for the Cowboys from the NFC.

miami_fan 12-27-2007 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1623120)
The Seahawks are overrated. I mean what if you watched the Seahawks two weeks ago? Yeah, they were a real powerhouse when they lost to Carolina. Oh, beating up on the Rams and Ravens is real impressive.

Give me a break.


Are you still holding a grudge from 2 years ago?

Chief Rum 12-27-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 1623530)
Are you still holding a grudge from 2 years ago?


OH YEAH! Lol...gold. Unbelievable.

astrosfan64 12-28-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1623512)
Got it. So pick one game outta the last seven and base your opinion around that, instead of noting that they have won six of seven, winning by 2 TDs on average in those six wins? Do you like to just pick the one thing that supports your argument and ignore the mountain of contrary evidence, or is that just in this one instance?

Yeah, so they took a shit when they went to Carolina. They are still playing some good football, and no one should be saying the Skins should beat the Seahawks, given that.

And, no, I am not a Seahawks fan at all. In fact, I'll be rooting for the Cowboys from the NFC.


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10 Nov 12 SF 0 @ SEA 24 FINAL 68,331 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 278Yds SEA Maurice Morris: 87Yds SEA D.J. Hackett: 101Yds

11 Nov 18 CHI 23 @ SEA 30 FINAL 68,249 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 337Yds CHI Cedric Benson: 89Yds SEA D.J. Hackett: 136Yds

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They didn't beat one team with a winning record over that stretch. The one team with a winning record, they lost to. = the Browns.

Like I said, overrated.

Chief Rum 12-28-2007 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1623662)
9 Nov 04 SEA 30 @ CLE 33 FINAL 72,927 CLE Derek Anderson: 364Yds SEA Maurice Morris: 55Yds SEA Bobby Engram: 139Yds

10 Nov 12 SF 0 @ SEA 24 FINAL 68,331 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 278Yds SEA Maurice Morris: 87Yds SEA D.J. Hackett: 101Yds

11 Nov 18 CHI 23 @ SEA 30 FINAL 68,249 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 337Yds CHI Cedric Benson: 89Yds SEA D.J. Hackett: 136Yds

12 Nov 25 SEA 24 @ STL 19 FINAL 65,423 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 249Yds STL Steven Jackson: 90Yds SEA Deion Branch: 92Yds

13 Dec 02 SEA 28 @ PHI 24 FINAL 68,445 PHI A.J. Feeley: 220Yds PHI Brian Westbrook: 93Yds PHI Kevin Curtis: 111Yds

14 Dec 09 ARI 21 @ SEA 42 FINAL 68,193 ARI Kurt Warner: 337Yds ARI Edgerrin James: 46Yds ARI Jerheme Urban: 123Yds

15 Dec 16 SEA 10 @ CAR 13 FINAL 73,421 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 274Yds CAR DeAngelo Williams: 61Yds SEA Bobby Engram: 84Yds

16 Dec 23 BAL 6 @ SEA 27 FINAL 68,164 SEA Matt Hasselbeck: 199Yds SEA Shaun Alexander: 73Yds BAL Derrick Mason: 98Yds


They didn't beat one team with a winning record over that stretch. The one team with a winning record, they lost to. = the Browns.

Like I said, overrated.


In case your hair seems out of place, that was the point sailing over your head again. I have only been arguing for the Hawks not being a "game the Skins should win", from the original poster's argument. You seem to be acting like I am picking them to go to the Super Bowl or something. I only said they have been playing some of the better football in the league the past few weeks, and that is still true. Your post only proves it more. Thanks for the game by game breakdown, saves me the work.

Vinatieri for Prez 12-28-2007 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64 (Post 1623662)
Like I said, overrated.


I hope you place your bets again. Go heavy against Seattle in the wild card round. I dare you.

astrosfan64 12-28-2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez (Post 1623692)
I hope you place your bets again. Go heavy against Seattle in the wild card round. I dare you.


Depends on the line.

For the record, I won a ton of money that playoff/bowl season a 2 years ago. All of it is documented online in the dynasty forum.

With that being said, I did take the Skins over the Hawks 2 years ago and lost a good bit of coin. :(

I don't think the skins are that great, but I also don't think the Hawks are that great either. Most likely, I won't touch the game.


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