Marvin Harrison
 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829

Who saw that one coming? Whilst that story is somewhat brief, what few details are there seem pretty well damning.

Ouch. For everyone.

I wasn't paying attention to the NFL Draft, did Harrison get traded to the Bengals? It's the only way this makes sense to me...

Wow. I wonder what that guy said to him.

:(

At this point, it seems like the best a Harrison fan could hope for is that he's just protecting someone who used his gun. That would be stupid enough, but if he's actually the shooter, then I don't see how he's playing for the Colts next year.

This kinda gives a darker, more Taxi Driver, feel to the way the camera always catches Harrison sitting on the bench stoic, silent and on his lonesome.

...furthermore, if I were some multi-millionaire athlete, and I owned a car wash, you could go there for 365 days in a row, and you would never actually find me there.

Apparently Outside the Lines covered this just now, and added these details:
- may have been a fistfight in the bar before the gunfire
- the bar had had problems with this guy before
- gun fire "exchanged" (more than one shooter?)
- the guy who was injured had done time for homicide

So it sounds like it may have been a case of a known bad guy causing the trouble. Still, if Harrison is shooting at somebody he's not going to be playing any time soon even if he does manage to avoid doing time.

Best case scenario: Harrison went to calm the chap down, at which point the gentleman pulls out a gun. Harrison acts quickly, shooting the gun from his hand and saving the damsel who was subsequently injured when the scoundrel's weapon shattered a pane of glass.

holy shit

Wow. Stunning. In a bad way. :(

Hmmmm....now it comes out that there's not one, but two seperate incidents in the past which involve Marvin choking out small children.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2025485
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C0A9659C8B63

Charming.

Ugh. This hurts.

I'm suprised this hasn't turned into a thread about the Patriots yet!

Maybe he should've celebrated in the endzone when he had a chance.

I wonder if Roger Goodell will treat Harrison like any other player and suspend him for a significant amount of time, or give him a pass because he's been a "good citizen" in the past.

I'm guessing not:

I guess we can retire the "when was the last time you heard of Marvin Harrison being asked to talk to police" line now, huh?

As a huge fan that's seen every Harrison home game since he came in the league all I can say is.....WOW. It's one of the last guys I would have expected if you told me a Colt was going to be involved in a shooting incident. :( This just blows me away. So much doesn't make sense or add up, but it's clear Marvin knows more than what has been said.

It's not been a good past 8 months for Harrison with injuries and now this. If he's guilty...


Okay...to be positive here, maybe this makes him a popular WR now, don't all the popular ones today have to be a little crazy? :)

Wow. As a Colts fan this is very hard to take. Harrison always seemed like a guy who could snap someday and do some bad shit, but I'd always hoped it was just vanilla social akwardness.

How many times do we need to say it... if you're an NFL player and you want to shoot somebody, have the class to do it before the draft so your team can replace you.

Those articles are three and five years old. It's not that its coming out now, its that for whatever reason nobody paid much attention in the past.

They always compared his quite look and intensity to that of an assassin. Still, you wouldn't think he would be capable of this. This is a blow to every Colts fan today.

Who's "they"?

Sorry, a lot of the local journalists have done that in the past. I've seen in it in articles from the Indy Star before.

A little crazy is doing situps for the media in the driveway of your home. Batshit insane is choking kids and shooting people outside clubs.

Gotcha. I was thinking Jack Tatum passed his nickname on.... :)

Should make him even more popular, right? :) :( Nope, not a very positive spin. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it after all the initial speculation dies down and more facts start to come out (and Marvin does some more talking to the police)

LOL. Tatum needs to come back and give Harrison a couple of hits to try to knock some sense into him if 1/3 of what's being said is true.

I can't say this often enough apparently: if you are a pro athlete making hundreds of thousands or many millions of dollars, DON'T GO TO A BAR OR A STRIP CLUB OR A NIGHT CLUB! You're just asking for trouble. At least once a month some guy is pissing his career away at one of these places.

I read the headline and was waiting for a bar to appear in the text somewhere...

and even better, don't OWN one! :rolleyes: What the hell is Marvin thinking?

For the most part, I agree with you; however, the percentage of NFL players that get in trouble in clubs is relatively small. How many players own or go to clubs and don't get into trouble?

Also, let's give him benefit of the doubt. It's not like he's convicted or anything, right? Innocent until proven guilty, right?

The trash-talkers are actually expressing their daily frustration in a healthy way. It's definitely the quiet ones who are more prone to bursts of anger.

That only applies to the government trying to obtain a criminal conviction. It doesn't apply to message boards or public opinion, nor should it.

Plus they already said the gun used was registered to him, and in PA, that's an automatic charge.

That's sad. At the Superbowl a few years ago, I ran into his mother, and actually went out of my way to congratulate her on not only the success of her son, but his "good character." Sigh...I guess I should wait to pass judgement until ALL the gory details come out, but man.

This is kind of like if Jerry Rice ran afoul of the law. :(

My point is kind of the reverse: of NFL players and NBA players who get into trouble (curiously, I'm not sure I've seen the same for MLB players), a significant percentage of the incidents involve a night club of some sort. You can pretty much count on it coming up in a description of the incident.

I see what you say but are these guys supposed to not live their lives?

A bar is a legit buisness and a sound investment. Eddie George has a bar in Columbus, you don't see him shooting people on the streets.

I think the people who get into trouble would find a way to get into trouble regardless.

dola- these guys would be in trouble even if they weren't in the NBA/NFL

Wow, Marvin has gone from choirboy to thug in what....5 hours?

Amazing isn't it.

If the NFL satisfied that Harrison did this, he has to be done in the NFL, doesn't he? Shooting at someone is worse than being involved in dogfighting. He was maybe a foot or less away from being a murderer.

For a hand wound? You're kidding, right?


Depends upon who you shoot, and why.

For all I know Harrison flipped & tried to gun down some guy in cold blood & is simply a really bad shot, I'm just saying I'm not sure there's anything short of a murder conviction that is really a surefire slam dunk career ending suspension at this point.

Are there any active major pro athletes who have shot another person (that we know about?)

Wanna parse the difference between shooting one and stabbing two?

Leonard Little killed someone driving drunk, and got, what, a 2 game suspension?

Assuming he actually pulled the trigger and it wasn't self-defense, he'll be charged with attempted murder, won't he? Doesn't much matter that he "only" happened to hit the guy in the hand. I'm sure he'll be able to plead it down if he goes that route, but he's looking at some damn serious charges to begin with. We'll see where it ends.

This is completely shocking to me. I turned on ESPNews around 6pm and sat stunned for 10 minutes when I saw this report. I hope it's not true, and that at worst, he's covering for someone else who used his gun.

Shooting at someone is 100,000X more dangerous than driving drunk.

Or some version of reckless conduct, or improper discharge of a firearm, or reckless endangerment. I imagine it depends on what the prosecutors think they have some change of proving/winning.