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MJ4H 06-19-2008 11:02 PM

Mars, on the rocks
 
We have ice!

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...hoenix-tw.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by the artice
There is water ice on Mars within reach of the Mars Phoenix Lander, NASA scientists announced Thursday.


Racer 06-19-2008 11:06 PM

Pretty big finding. Pretty cool too.

JetsIn06 06-20-2008 12:24 AM

Nice!

rowech 06-20-2008 06:26 AM

First off...I do believe it's ice. However, it certainly isn't conclusive evidence to me. Perhaps it's a compound that we've never seen on Earth that does the same thing as ice? Not great science to immediately decide it's ice. Like I said...I do believe it is but I'd certainly want more evidence if I was on the team.

Young Drachma 06-20-2008 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowech (Post 1756204)
First off...I do believe it's ice. However, it certainly isn't conclusive evidence to me. Perhaps it's a compound that we've never seen on Earth that does the same thing as ice? Not great science to immediately decide it's ice. Like I said...I do believe it is but I'd certainly want more evidence if I was on the team.


Yeah, the picture didn't really convince me either. But once they colourize it in a few days, it'll show more than we're really able to see now.

sterlingice 06-20-2008 07:40 AM

Neat, if true

SI

Young Drachma 06-20-2008 07:56 AM



Seems strange ice would be randomly logged on the ground where only to vanish from the dirt. And I like how the reports say "it must be ice" as opposed to something more definitive. I dunno.

Anyway, that pic comes from the Phoenix site.

rowech 06-20-2008 08:06 AM

I'm just not sure I buy it. I'd like to see a lot more evidence than that. For what has been such an essential question for so many years, it seems like a really crappy way to "prove" it.

spleen1015 06-20-2008 08:18 AM

I don't know how you can prove that is ice.

flere-imsaho 06-20-2008 08:20 AM

I'm going to assume the lander has sensors or whatever that can relay data the scientists can use to show it's ice.

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-20-2008 08:27 AM

Here's the actual NASA article with a better animation included..........

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph...-20080619.html

Regarding the composition of the material, they should be able to detect it in the ovens on-board the lander. I'm sure they'll move to do more checking of that in the coming days.

rowech 06-20-2008 09:34 AM

As I said...I totally believe it's ice. I'd just like something a little better than what we have.

TredWel 06-20-2008 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Armstrong
That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mars Phoenix Lander
Are you ready to celebrate? Well, get ready: We have ICE!!!!! Yes, ICE, *WATER ICE* on Mars! w00t!!! Best day ever!!

It's been a long forty years.

Young Drachma 06-20-2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TredWel (Post 1756486)
It's been a long forty years.


Well played, sir.


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