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FrogMan 03-18-2003 09:34 PM

Official FOFC Hattrick Rankings for week 18.14
 
Here it is guys!!!
See where your Hattrick team ranks!!!

Some explanations:
- NSI points is the sum of all your position ratings from the last league game of the said team, with midfield counting as triple its value
- ratings are counted with the base value set at disastrous = 1, wretched = 2, and so on.
- TW stands for "This Week"
- LW stand for "Last Week" (not used now, since this is the first week of the rankings)
- "+/-" will be used to denote movement in either the rank or the number of points
- I intent on updating the rankings after every week of the regular season since the points are based on league games. This means the next update will be only after the first week of next season (which will be name week 19.01)

That's about it, without further ado, HERE THEY ARE!!!

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                                                                                FOFC Rankings            NSI 3wks mov avg
TW  Team                          team id FOFC member        Country  Series    TW  LW  MOVE    BEST    TW    LW  +/-    BEST
1  Screamin' Seamen              70638  dataking            USA      IV.49      1    1  ------  1      62.8  61.3  + 1.5  62.8
2  Gargoyles                    70991  Ravenhawk          USA      IV.19      2    2  ------  2      60.8  60.5  + 0.3  60.8
3  Slumlords                    8293    winking pirate      USA      IV.8      3    3  ------  3      54.7  56.3  - 1.7  56.3
4  North County Raiders          70913  Ardent Enthusiast  USA      IV.43      4    5  up 1    4      54.3  52.3  + 2.0  54.3
5  Long Island Pride            70899  NY FAN              USA      V.90      5    7  up 2    5      52.8  50.5  + 2.3  52.8
6  MoKan Mighty Bastards        70338  Meanstrosity        USA      V.20      6    4  down 2  4      52.7  52.8  - 0.2  52.8
7  Calibiri                      8598    Daedalus            USA      IV.46      7    6  down 1  6      52.5  52.2  + 0.3  52.5
8  NE Oklahoma Sidekicks        71068  vexroid            USA      V.111      8    8  ------  8      50.2  48.8  + 1.3  50.2
9  Aardvarks                    70769  Aylmar              USA      V.74      9  13  up 4    9      49.2  45.5  + 3.7  49.2
10  Ruskies                      70282  The_herd            USA      V.13      10  11  up 1    10    48.3  47.2  + 1.2  48.3
11  Cedar Pond Horned Toads      70953  HornedFrog Purple  USA      V.97      11  13  up 2    11    47.8  45.5  + 2.3  47.8
12  Morrisville Morrisvillians    70926  NevStar            USA      V.93      12    8  down 4  8      47.2  48.8  - 1.7  48.8
13  Galesburg Avengers            70481  Coffee Warlord      USA      V.38      13  12  down 1  12    47.0  47.0  -----  47.0
13  Bees                          70510  ausonny            USA      V.41      13  10  down 3  10    47.0  47.5  - 0.5  47.5
15  Hamas Mad Bombers            71389  astralhaze          USA      V.151    15  17  up 2    15    46.0  43.5  + 2.5  46.0
15  Houston Hippopotami          8574    sterlingice        USA      V.62      15  19  up 4    15    46.0  42.5  + 3.5  46.0
17  Arkham Avengers              72049  Nylarlahotep        USA      V.234    17  26  up 9    17    45.8  41.3  + 4.5  45.8
18  Aviators                      8150    damnMikeBrown      USA      IV.25    18  16  down 2  16    45.5  44.0  + 1.5  45.5
19  Alf Trickers                  47201  Alf                France  IV.40    19  23  up 4    19    44.8  41.7  + 3.2  44.8
20  Blade Bombers                71724  Blade6119          USA      V.193    20  18  down 2  18    44.0  42.8  + 1.2  44.0
21  FC Hartford                  70296  samifan24          USA      V.14      21  15  down 6  15    43.8  45.2  - 1.3  45.2
22  Bull Dogs                    8421    Eilim              USA      V.1      22  32  up 10    22    43.0  40.0  + 3.0  43.0
23  Midwest Ice Storm FC          70500  Pilotman            USA      V.40      23  32  up 9    23    42.7  40.0  + 2.7  42.7
24  goldurnears                  72020  robbgmaier          USA      V.230    24  26  up 2    24    42.5  41.3  + 1.2  42.5
24  Cowtown FC                    70689  Mrushh              USA      V.64      24  21  down 3  21    42.5  42.0  + 0.5  42.5
26  Scranton Slime                71299  TredWel            USA      V.140    26  24  down 2  24    42.3  41.5  + 0.8  42.3
27  Negative Waves                8697    moriarty            USA      V.198    27  24  down 3  24    41.8  41.5  + 0.3  41.8
28  Louisiana Cyclones            72080  Doug5984            USA      V.237    28  48  up 20    28    41.7  37.0  + 4.7  41.7
28  Concord Assassins            72162  BishopMVP          USA      V.248    28  40  up 12    28    41.7  39.0  + 2.7  41.7
30  Bbors                        29830  bbor                Canada  IV.23    30  20  down 10  20    41.5  42.2  - 0.7  42.2
30  Chesapeake Cheapshots        71318  Quiksand            USA      V.142    30  28  down 2  28    41.5  41.2  + 0.3  41.5
30  Oklahoma City Rednecks        70559  Airhog              USA      V.47      30  22  down 8  22    41.5  41.8  - 0.3  41.8
33  Boulder Blaze                71406  Bertogarce          USA      V.153    33  35  up 2    33    41.0  39.7  + 1.3  41.0
33  booger ballers                8223    fflix              USA      V.158    33                33    41.0                41.0
33  Maniacal Misfitz              72203  Havok              USA      V.253    33                33    41.0                41.0
36  Pintendre Pittbulls          108238  FrogMan            Canada  IV.38    36  35  down 1  35    40.8  39.7  + 1.2  40.8
37  Fairfax Admirals              71139  awm9a              USA      V.120    37  62  up 25    37    40.7  29.5  + 11.2  40.7
37  White Sox Pride              71519  Aesyrqwe            USA      V.167    37  32  down 5  32    40.7  40.0  + 0.7  40.7
37  West Henrietta FC            70601  bigjdotcom01        USA      V.53      37  31  down 6  31    40.7  40.5  + 0.2  40.7
37  Shaw_Shanksters              70848  Superman=#54        USA      V.83      37  29  down 8  29    40.7  40.8  - 0.2  40.8
41  Michigan Moon Shine          70376  DeToxRoxDVHStyle    USA      V.24      41  38  down 3  38    40.5  39.3  + 1.2  40.5
42  Gasmasters                    71955  Fonzie              USA      V.222    42  30  down 12  30    40.3  40.7  - 0.3  40.7
43  S. Boston Hooligans          71008  McSweeny            USA      V.103    43  51  up 8    43    40.0  36.0  + 4.0  40.0
43  High Tops                    8146    Professor58        USA      V.28      43  44  up 1    43    40.0  38.0  + 2.0  40.0
45  Rochester Roosters            71938  dacman              USA      V.220    45  37  down 8  37    39.3  39.5  - 0.2  39.5
46  G-Vegas FC                    71158  Easy Mac            USA      V.122    46  46  ------  46    39.0  37.8  + 1.2  39.0
47  The Big Show                  71475  ramfan              USA      V.162    47  38  down 9  38    38.3  39.3  - 1.0  39.3
48  Little Green Monsters        71368  SplitPersonality1  USA      V.148    48  42  down 6  42    38.2  38.3  - 0.2  38.3
49  Goldfish                      72717  MikeVic            Canada  IV.61    49                49    38.0                38.0
50  Fighting Crawfish            70798  The Afoci          USA      V.77      50  42  down 8  42    37.8  38.3  - 0.5  38.3
51  Spring Grove Fighting Eagles  72093  illifan999          USA      V.179    51  47  down 4  47    37.7  37.2  + 0.5  37.7
52  High Rollers                  71377  AnalBumCover        USA      V.150    52  48  down 4  48    37.5  37.0  + 0.5  37.5
52  Lakeville Rovers              8263    patpsycho          USA      V.49      52  50  down 2  50    37.5  36.8  + 0.7  37.5
54  Qwakers                      71297  Qwikshot            USA      V.140    54  54  ------  54    37.3  35.5  + 1.8  37.3
54  Newton Rams                  71010  GrantDawg          USA      V.104    54  44  down 10  44    37.3  38.0  - 0.7  38.0
56  IFK Bananskruv                103399  3ric                Sverige  VII.842  56  52  down 4  52    37.0  35.7  + 1.3  37.0
57  Complex Spikes                72176  Masked              USA      V.249    57  65  up 8    57    36.0  26.0  + 10.0  36.0
57  Else United                  72189  rexallsc            USA      V.251    57                57    36.0                36.0
59  Toledo Drunkards              8295    Rich1033            USA      V.21      59  41  down 18  41    35.8  38.7  - 2.8  38.7
60  Lancre Wowhawks              57183  Katon              England  VI.135    60  55  down 5  55    35.7  35.3  + 0.3  35.7
61  Flying Condors                71540  condors            USA      IV.36    61  52  down 9  52    34.5  35.7  - 1.2  35.7
62  Reign                        71332  HeavyReign          USA      IV.21    62  56  down 6  56    34.3  33.7  + 0.7  34.3
63  Isla Vista Vandals            70384  Vince              USA      V.25      63  61  down 2  61    34.0  30.0  + 4.0  34.0
64  Manchester Silver Bullets    70827  Sublime            USA      V.81      64  58  down 6  58    33.0  33.0  -----  33.0
65  Averill Park Mercury          8489    RPI-Fan            USA      IV.8      65  60  down 5  60    32.3  31.3  + 1.0  32.3
65  Eugene Emeralds              8315    JHandley            USA      V.251    65  64  down 1  64    32.3  27.0  + 5.3  32.3
67  Rio Grandes                  8688    Radii              USA      V.55      67  63  down 4  63    32.2  28.3  + 3.8  32.2
68  Slithy Toves                  8505    Brillig            USA      IV.35    68                68    32.0                32.0
69  Racoons                      8546    Barkeep49          USA      IV.51    69  68  down 1  68    31.8  20.5  + 11.3  31.8
70  Vileurban FC                  47059  jfbbis              France  IV.22    70  57  down 13  57    30.8  33.5  - 2.7  33.5
71  Baltimore Blast              71773  Ravenhawk          USA      V.199    71  67  down 4  67    29.2  22.3  + 6.8  29.2
72  North Plainfield Plague      70778  cthomer5000        USA      IV.27    72                72    29.0                29.0
73  Barrow UFC                    8471    Tekneek            USA      V.139    73  59  down 14  59    28.2  31.5  - 3.3  31.5
74  Tommyhawks                    70504  MrBug 708          USA      V.40      74  66  down 8  66    26.5  25.3  + 1.2  26.5
75  ThunderThighs                71529  Neuqua              USA      V.169    75  69  down 6  69    24.3  18.8  + 5.5  24.3
76  Shadow Dragons                70513  Astott              USA      V.42      76                76    24.0                24.0
77  Los Alamitos Fury            72228  heybrad            USA      V.256    77                77    22.0                22.0
NR  Milford Money                71874  Shorty3281          USA      V.212    NR                78


I know the format leaves much to be desired, but I really wanted to post something tonight. As you can see, it's Dataking's Screamin' Seamen up top, followed by Ravenhawk's Gargoyles, with the top 3 closed by Ardent Enthusiast's North County Raiders.

So here they are your comments are welcome. Any surprises to you Hattrick gurus?

Later, FrogMan.

PilotMan 03-18-2003 09:42 PM

Tied for 20th.....hmmm I guess I have some improving to do. That looks outstanding Frogman, Thank You!!!

FrogMan 03-18-2003 09:45 PM

Two things I forgot to mention:
(1) Milford Money wasn't included in this week's rankings since he got his team after the league game was played so it was the bot team that played his game.

(2) I'm only human, mistakes can happen. If you think your team has been wrongly rated, simply PM me and I'll take a look at it.

Later, FrogMan.

Doug5984 03-18-2003 09:45 PM

I am not a hattrick guru....but I am very (pleasantly) suprised my team was rated # 24....I thought I was going to be ranked much lower than that....and I don't think it is at all a suprise that Dataking is rated # 1

cthomer5000 03-18-2003 09:54 PM

is there a way you can show the 'point total?' I'd like to know how dominating a lead DK has on everyone, or how far someone is from the person in front of them, etc...

is that possible?

great work!

cthomer5000 03-18-2003 09:56 PM

dola. nevermind... there it is! I'm blind and stupid. :(

Masked 03-18-2003 10:02 PM

in the future, are you going to do the ranking based only on the previous week or are you going to have some sort of running average (last 3 games, with last weighted more, etc)?

samifan24 03-18-2003 10:09 PM

Very interesting results. The top 5 are no surprise to me. I was also pleasantly surprised to find my team ranked #26, but I've fought long and hard to get my team from the sellar and to finish with a decent 20-29 GF/GA ratio for the season. I have a lot of work to do and I like the fact that we can now easily see where we stack up in terms of fellow FOFC teams. Like I said in the other thread, this could be a huge help when it comes to developing the 3rd FOFC Cup!

Blade6119 03-18-2003 10:18 PM

wow....i knew i had a fairly good team, but in my last game i played the best team in the league and they pretty much schooled me...very happy with tied for 18!!!

Nyarlahotep 03-18-2003 10:19 PM

Wow, tenth after only playing a month. I bet that drops next season since I MOTS'ed and my midfield will go back to it's crappy ways. Thanks Frogman.

McSweeny 03-18-2003 10:43 PM

wooohoo! not even close to last!

daedalus 03-18-2003 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrogMan
(2) I'm only human, mistakes can happen. If you think your team has been wrongly rated, simply PM me and I'll take a look at it.

Dude, you did an awesome job. Mucho thanks for the work you've put in. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I'm blind

We warned you that it'd happen. :)

Coffee Warlord 03-18-2003 10:59 PM

1) KICKASS work. Now I have even more things driving me to win at Hattrick!

2) 16th on the NevStar Power Ratings, eh. Not bad. I'll crack the top 10 by midseason. This I vow. :)

vex 03-18-2003 11:05 PM

Wow, if I would have just had a "weak" midfield, I would have been 4th. 9th isn't too bad though seeing as how I've only been playing since Dec. 30th.

vex 03-18-2003 11:07 PM

Dola

Something you could add would be a team's all-time high NSI rating.

This is awesome, thanks for all the hard work!

vex 03-18-2003 11:13 PM

Double Dola

How about puting the FOFC user by the team, i.e. NE Oklahoma Sidekicks (vexroid)

MikeVic 03-18-2003 11:19 PM

I'm 50th :) Not bad for playing one game. lol :)

vex 03-18-2003 11:22 PM

This is a really good tool to tell a team when they are ready for Div. IV play.

DataKing 03-19-2003 01:23 AM

I like it even better now that I've seen it. :D

Excellent stuff FrogMan.

sterlingice 03-19-2003 01:29 AM

Cool rankings!

"Darn the luck, Darn" (anyone know the cartoon quote?)
I would have been top 10 if not for Starks's absence. Still, I'm not going to complain. It'd be cool to see a composite index based not only on NSI but running rankings, some minor component for friendlies (depth of organization), and the division you are in (division difficulty, win/loss, points, differential). Then again, that's hours more work than any of us should put into something like that.

SI

Alf 03-19-2003 04:28 AM

I'm really shocked to be in the top 15. My top players are only rated passable at best. I have only 1 solid rating (scorer). 80% of my team is only inadequate...

FrogMan 03-19-2003 06:57 AM

Hey guys,
Thanks for all the very good comments, they're appreciated but I had fun designing a way to do these. Also, being the competitive guy that I am, I also wanted to see where my Pittbulls stood in the group. 32nd ain't all bad considering week 18.14 was only my third regular season league game...

About suggestions, comments, request, let's see what we got here...

Quote:

Originally posted by Masked
in the future, are you going to do the ranking based only on the previous week or are you going to have some sort of running average (last 3 games, with last weighted more, etc)?


I was thinking about that, especially the fact that one bad week (an injured inner middie for example) could drop you hard in the rankings. What's the general train of thought on this? Three weeks with a 3-2-1 weight seems feasable... On the other hand, having depth on your hand should prevent you from dropping too much.

Quote:

Originally posted by vexroid
Dola

Something you could add would be a team's all-time high NSI rating.



This is a good idea. I'll work on adding it in the future.

Quote:

Originally posted by vexroid
Double Dola

How about puting the FOFC user by the team, i.e. NE Oklahoma Sidekicks (vexroid)



This was originally in my intentions. I simply ran out of time last night to do a good formatting. Even I, after processing 79 (yep we got 79 teams now!!! WOOHOO!!!) I can't always who is who from only the team name...

Quote:

Originally posted by sterlingice
It'd be cool to see a composite index based not only on NSI but running rankings, some minor component for friendlies (depth of organization), and the division you are in (division difficulty, win/loss, points, differential). Then again, that's hours more work than any of us should put into something like that.


Could definitely be cool but would demand an amazing load of extra work compared to what it takes to make the rankings the way they are now. To explain myself, the way I do the rankings is I made a simple excel spreadsheet in which I copy/paste the ratings from every team's last game. This means I have to hunt for each and every of the 79 teams. But teh easy part is I only take their last game and copy their team ratings without any analysis. Going for running rankings, friendlys, division, etc, would ask somebody to punch in a bit more work...

Also my train of thoughts was that it doesn't really mather which division you are in since the rankings are based on how your team performed, independently from how the other teams around you perform. The rankings is a picture of how your team's multiple parts add up. Maybe somebody could tell me if I'm wrong...

Glad you all seem to appreciate the work.
Later, FrogMan.

FrogMan 03-19-2003 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alf
I'm really shocked to be in the top 15. My top players are only rated passable at best. I have only 1 solid rating (scorer). 80% of my team is only inadequate...


Only thing I could say is they play well together :)

FrogMan.

AStott 03-19-2003 08:41 AM

Woo hoo! I have 77 ranking points, I'm awes... err... wait.... Oh... Nevermind.

AStott (Shadow Dragons)

Coffee Warlord 03-19-2003 09:02 AM

Froggy, if I've got some time at work, I'm going to set you up some webscripts to handle this. Basically, once the intitial team list is set up, all you'll have to do is select a team and pop in their NevStar Index. It'll do all the calculations for ya after that.

FrogMan 03-19-2003 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
Froggy, if I've got some time at work, I'm going to set you up some webscripts to handle this. Basically, once the intitial team list is set up, all you'll have to do is select a team and pop in their NevStar Index. It'll do all the calculations for ya after that.


What do you mean? Would it be able to hunt the team's ratings on the Hattrick website?

Cause I got the list set up nicely on my excel spreadsheet (Have I told you, Excel is my friend :D ) and all I have to do is copy/paste every team's last game rating. That's the long part of it although it only took me about an hour yesterday and taht hour included drying my sons hair after his bath and a few other disturbances (ah them kids :) )

Once I've copied the ratings (as text) in the excel spreadsheet I've set up a tiny macro that adds the values and then writes the team name and NSI points at the end of the master list for the week. I'm no programmer but it works for now...

FrogMan.

Coffee Warlord 03-19-2003 09:19 AM

Ahhhh. Might not be worth it then until I actually get it to dig the match ratings out. But that actually isn't that big of deal either.

I'll see what I can do about making life easier for you. (Hell, I might be able to totally automate it.)

NevStar 03-19-2003 09:39 AM

Coffee Warlord:

Be careful about doing this. From the hattrick rules:

Quote:

It's totally forbidden to scan any page at www.hattrick.org without permisson from HT-teamet (mail: [email protected] if you want permission).


Apparently, the developers aren't very liberal in granting permission. I emailed them for permission to develop a HAM like application about 3 weeks ago & never got a response. That reminds me, I guess I'll email them again.

the_meanstrosity 03-19-2003 01:19 PM

I love you guys.

Now onto items of a serious note. It looks like this will be my last season in the V.20 Level 5 unless the Level 4 team I play next week has recently acquired an entirely new 2 star roster. I want you all to know that I won't forget any of you. Except for maybe Dataking since he won't continue work on the Kansas Jayhawks dynasty.

So next season, yours truly will be fighting not to be relegated...yay! As my supporters leave me for miserable loss after miserable loss, I will always remember this week's #7 ranking as my golden era in Hattrick.

Now I must get set to face the Midwest Ice Storm FC (currently ranked #20) in today's semi-final of the FOFC Cup II. We have sharpened our cleats and wore silver studded gloves on one hand just as the NE Oklahoma Sidekicks have taught us. We will prevail or injure many Ice Stormers trying. Ah, I'm kidding myself. We'll still probably injure as many Ice Stormers trying even if we do prevail.

Owner of the MoKan Mighty Bastards and sharpener of cleats.

NevStar 03-19-2003 03:21 PM

I just got this reply from the HT-developers regarding my queries to write utility applications. Looks like any automated FOFC rankings list is out of the question for the time being. We'll just have to make FrogMan feel appreciated :)

Quote:

Hi,

We do like when devoted users make useful software. However we don't approve of
_any_ new applications at this part. With one exeption only, applications that
uses the hrf-file. That is the only file that's allowed to download with
external applications. Scanning of other pages is still forbidden. This is due
to the server capacity.

Later on we hope to provide better tools for all developers in order to help you
out. But in the meantime we say no to everything (besides from hrf-using
programs).

When the status changes I will make sure to let you know, since I'm saving up
all mails with similar content.

best regards
HT-Trapper


daedalus 03-19-2003 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrogMan
To explain myself, the way I do the rankings is I made a simple excel spreadsheet in which I copy/paste the ratings from every team's last game. This means I have to hunt for each and every of the 79 teams. But teh easy part is I only take their last game and copy their team ratings without any analysis. Going for running rankings, friendlys, division, etc, would ask somebody to punch in a bit more work...

Just a thought . . . I wonder if it wouldn't be helpful to have a thread where we each keep a post active and copy and paste in our last game's ratings. To keep the thread length from going out of control, we could edit our old post to remove the previous week's and add in the current week's ratings instead. For example, I could have my post in the thread where I post my last game's ratings. When I play my next game and get my ratings, I'll go in to 'edit' to remove the previous ratings and add the new one. If nothing else, this may save FrogMan some hunting work. It wouldn't take any one of us very long and would sure save FrogMan quite a bit of work. Any thoughts, opinions or ideas?

-----

As an aside, for a slice of humble pie, I played a friendly against a team in the Sveringe D2 (Ib) and here's the ratings I went against:

Wermdö Trappers
Midfield: mythical
Right Side Defence: brilliant
Central Defence: utopian
Left Side Defence: divine
Right Side Attack: titanic
Central Attack: magnificent
Left Side Attack: formidable

daedalus 03-19-2003 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevStar
With one exeption only, applications that uses the hrf-file. That is the only file that's allowed to download with external applications.

I'm not following this too well . . . do they mean that they have a page where the HRF files are accesible and would only be supportive of applications that only grab the HRF files or do they mean they would only be supportive of applications that processes the HRF files (fetching it is your business)?

DataKing 03-19-2003 03:51 PM

I think daedalus has an excellent idea, regarding us all posting our own team ratings. This would certainly save FrogMan a good deal of work, and would take each of us a negligible amount of time.

Instead of using a seperate thread, we could simply post the ratings within the thread for the ratings themselves, editing the old posts as daedalus mentioned.

NevStar 03-19-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daedalus
I'm not following this too well . . . do they mean that they have a page where the HRF files are accesible and would only be supportive of applications that only grab the HRF files or do they mean they would only be supportive of applications that processes the HRF files (fetching it is your business)?


The first, I think. There is a supporter option to download the .hrf file directly. I interpret their message as saying this is the only automated access they would allow to their site.

I agree with us all maintaining our own team ratings.

The_herd 03-19-2003 06:54 PM

Not too bad, made 12th place with 2 starters hurt.

FrogMan 03-19-2003 07:30 PM

Hey guys, your ideas to have every team copy their match rating could be useful. I think it would be easier to track if we used a new thread for posting the game ratings every week. I mean if every player goes in the main thread and simply edits his old ratings, replacing them with new ones, how would I knwo who had the discipline to do it and who didn't do it??

I/we still have two more weeks before the next league game, so I'll think about a way of doing it that could cut down on my "hunting" time. Also, we would need some kind of deadline, at which I would have to start my hunting. I mean it's almost certain we won't have everybody posting their weekly game ratings, so I wouldn't want to wait until Thursday before I start working on the weekly rankings.

Later, FrogMan

FrogMan 03-19-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevStar
I just got this reply from the HT-developers regarding my queries to write utility applications. Looks like any automated FOFC rankings list is out of the question for the time being. We'll just have to make FrogMan feel appreciated :)


Nev and everyone, you've all already done that, simply by accepting and discussing the ratings like you have so far. I'm happy I could contribute to something I thought was missing from our little Hattrick community :)

FrogMan.

FrogMan 03-19-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_herd
Not too bad, made 12th place with 2 starters hurt.


To answer that concern, the thing about having injured player dragging down your team ratings, I'm working on V2 :) of the rankings where I'll use a weighted moving average. I'm in the process of collecting the information for every team's last for league games. That should give us a weighted rating for last week (weighted average of ratings points from weeks 18.11, 18.12, and 18.13) and a weighted rating for this week (weighted average of ratings points from weeks 18.12, 18.13, and 18.14).

For those curious, an example of the formula for the weighted average for this week would be:

Code:

NSI(18.12)*1 + NSI(18.13)*2 + NSI(18.14)*3
                    6


Where NSI(x) represents the number of NSI points for week x.

That way the latest week will count the most, the second latest a little less and the week that was 3 weeks ago even less...

Okay, algebra class dismissed :D

Don't ask when I'll be done, I don't know. I'll do part of it tonight, maybe the rest tomorrow.

FrogMan

RPI-Fan 03-19-2003 08:09 PM

Maybe you could put the number of what place you're in to make it a little clearer where exactly teams rank?

FrogMan 03-19-2003 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
Maybe you could put the number of what place you're in to make it a little clearer where exactly teams rank?


It's in there somewhere, under the TW in the middle :) This is your team's place in the rankings as of this week. Next to it would be last week's place, to compare if you're going up or down...

FrogMan

moriarty 03-20-2003 12:47 PM

Hey, just saw this. In a word, Sweet!

FrogMan 03-21-2003 09:16 AM

final version of week 18.14 rankings
 
okay, I'm done with the week 18.14 rankings. See the first post at the top.

I've hunt game rating for all 78 teams (we're down to 78 from 79, Atlanta Rohirrim lost his team 03/18) for the last 4 weeks of the season and I computed a weighted moving average for both this week (18.14) and last week (18.13).

As explained before the latest week counts for triple it's value, the second closest for double its value and the third closest week for its single value. The whole sum is then divided by 6 to give an average. For week 18.13, the average is comprised of game ratings for weeks 18.11, 18.12, and 18.13. For week 18.14, the average is made with the ratings for weeks 18.12, 18.13, and 18.14. If a team has only two ratings, its average is made with double value the closest week, and single value of the second closest week. If a team has only one week of ratings, its average is simply that value.

In the rankings, I've also added the rank as teh first column, to make it easier to see where you stand right now. I've added columns for your best rank ever (starting with week 18.13) and for your best rating average. The "+/-" column now has some use and it shows you if your team is moving up or down in the rankings (and by how many spots) and it shows you how many NSI points your teams has either won or lost.

I've also added the FOFC member name and Hattrick ID. That way you know whose team it is and the team ID makes it easy to search for the team in Hattrick if you want to take a look at it.

I know the formatting is still not too good, but I'm planning on setting up a barebones website where it'll look a little better.

As always, your comments are welcome!

Later, FrogMan.

NevStar 03-21-2003 10:15 AM

Well done, again!

The Morrisvillians vow to return to the top 10 again, very soon.

DataKing 03-21-2003 11:35 AM

On a slightly-related note...

The Screamin' Seamen will play host to the Gargoyles this coming Wednesday, in what is perhaps the most anticipated non-cup friendly match of the season. Since it is the off-season, both teams will likely field their starters, primarily.

Should be fun, as the top two teams in the FOFC Ratings square off. Tickets are still available. :)

NevStar 03-24-2003 02:18 PM

BUMP - mostly because this thread doesn't deserve to ever see page 2.

FrogMan 03-24-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevStar
BUMP - mostly because this thread doesn't deserve to ever see page 2.


Nev, it will, but only because the rankings for week 19-01 will have been posted :) Man this seems far far in the future...

About them NSI points. Did anyone see how accurate they were in predicting the outcome of tue different qualification matches played by FOFCer. By looking at the teams' NSI points for the last three games, we could see who was gonna contend and who was gonna have a rough time. Hamas Mad Bombers was neck and neck with his opponent in the ratings and he lost 4-3...

See the thread in the General Discussion group.

FrogMan

FrogMan 03-24-2003 06:58 PM

Now available in HTML and PDF!!!
 
another shameless bump to let you know that I've made the rankings into a quick html page that you can look at (easier to read than the present version) and another that you can download and print in PDF format. Here are the links:



Easy to print in PDF format

FOFC Hattrick rankings on the web!!!

As always, your comments are welcome!

Later, FrogMan.

vex 03-25-2003 01:03 AM

VERY Nice!

vex 03-25-2003 01:05 AM

Dola

Are you going to use the same page every week or will I have to goto another page? I ask this because it's now in my favorites.

If you are going to use another page, will you have an index page of all the weeks and also a link to dacman's lists?

FrogMan 03-25-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vexroid
Dola

Are you going to use the same page every week or will I have to goto another page? I ask this because it's now in my favorites.

If you are going to use another page, will you have an index page of all the weeks and also a link to dacman's lists?



Man, I like your enthusiasm about the rankings :)

This is sort of a temporary page (name 18-14.htm and 18-14.pdf so you see it week related). I plan on making a front page, very barebones, with a tiny top frame with links to past weeks and team performances. The bottom frame would be the current weekly rankings. You might have to adjust your bookmark in the future, but once I'll settle on a standard, I should stick to it.

A link to dacman's lists could be possible...

FrogMan


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