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RendeR 07-27-2008 12:55 AM

Who will get the 1st pick overall in 2009?
 
Thread title is the question, who will it be? The jets are looking pretty terrible right now, the Raiders have definitely inproved some from last year so I think they're safe this time round. The Ravens have huge question marks everywhere but in the secondary. The team a lot of magazines and online polls have tabbed is a surprise to me though: The Kansas City Chiefs.

Are they really that bad?

Poll to ome, make your vote and tell us why you think so!!

TCY Junkie 07-27-2008 01:09 AM

The patriots, they will come up with some videos of the commissioner stealing street signs.

Or Houston because I get to watch every game if I want to.

illinifan999 07-27-2008 01:13 AM

Surprised the Dolphins didn't make the list.

Glengoyne 07-27-2008 01:15 AM

Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.

Greyroofoo 07-27-2008 01:17 AM

I'm personally rooting for New England

TCY Junkie 07-27-2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne (Post 1792302)
Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.


I knew something was missing.

Lathum 07-27-2008 01:42 AM

I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)

Spree 07-27-2008 02:41 AM

Count me in for the Patriots... it's interesting how they've gone from being nice-guys to "heels," basically in the past 12 months, and a last-place finish would only complete the process, after which they can go back to being a pitiful franchise that everyone roots for, like the Cubs.

Chief Rum 07-27-2008 03:37 AM

I feel pretty comfortable saying it won't be any one of these teams. There is almost always a big surprise loser, or someone people thought would be much improved who were pretty bad the previous year.

RendeR 07-27-2008 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1792349)
I feel pretty comfortable saying it won't be any one of these teams. There is almost always a big surprise loser, or someone people thought would be much improved who were pretty bad the previous year.



Tell us who it is then Chief =)



I left the raiders off because I really think the addition of McFadden alone will win them a couple more games than say, the Jets or KC. I've got a good feeling for the Dolphins season as well because if you look at last season, while it was pathetic, they were in 2/3 of their games losing by a TD or less in half of them. I think with some solid rookies they could make some wins.

I basically went through and selected what I see "on paper" as the worst team from each division. Just basedon that I'm going with the Jets, but KC really could make it close with their schedule and a general lack of depth overall.

hoopsguy 07-27-2008 09:20 AM

I voted Falcons, but the Dolphins should definitely be on the list.

hoopsguy 07-27-2008 09:22 AM

Also, if you throw in the annual Mike Brown injury in the first couple of weeks your Chicago Bears would be a reasonable entry. Barring a Matt Forte breakout, they have the worst collection of "skill position" talent in the league. And this is coming from a guy who has been a Rex defender in years past.

Racer 07-27-2008 09:34 AM

I voted for the Ravens.

Senator 07-27-2008 09:41 AM

I picked Atlanta, as many other did, but the Raiders are a solid choice, despite the high picks. Someone has to call the plays.

SFL Cat 07-27-2008 10:03 AM

Atlanta looks poised for it, IMO.

MrDNA 07-27-2008 10:09 AM

On paper, it "should" be Atlanta: which is exactly why it probably won't be. Someone else will take a nosedive and ATL will probably pick around 3-5.

mauchow 07-27-2008 10:54 AM

Packers.

Bad-example 07-27-2008 01:37 PM

Voted for the Red4skins but it is probably just wishful thinking.

MJ4H 07-27-2008 01:53 PM

falcons ldo

fantom1979 07-27-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1792314)
I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)


Michael Turner... but who knows how he will do as the starter.

fantom1979 07-27-2008 02:12 PM

The Jets and Redskins I think will be better than the Dolphins or Eagles in their own divisions.

fantom1979 07-27-2008 02:13 PM

Dola,

I doubt the Lions will be the worst team. They cant do anything right, including being bad enough to get the first overall pick.

Maple Leafs 07-27-2008 02:15 PM

What are the odds that the "winner" of this poll makes the playoffs?

3-1? 4-1?

sachmo71 07-27-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1792314)
I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)


Michael Turner?

I got nuttin.

Dr. Sak 07-27-2008 02:54 PM

The Toronto Maple Leafs

thesloppy 07-27-2008 03:43 PM

I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.

Kodos 07-27-2008 04:03 PM

No Bengals option?

Raiders Army 07-27-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne (Post 1792302)
Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.


how dare you

VPI97 07-27-2008 04:38 PM

Those are two different questions...

Who will be the worst team in the NFL this season?
The Falcons...by far. They got rid of anyone with talent while blowing their FA money on a backup running back and wasting a #3 pick on a quarterback who may have been around for their second round pick. The franchise is squarely in the shitter.

Who will get the 1st pick overall in 2009?
Not the Falcons. Atlanta is such a shitty franchise that even when they have a pitiful excuse of a team, they'll find a way to screw themselves out of getting the #1 pick by winning two or three games at the end of season.

fantom1979 07-27-2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 1792525)
I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.


Also, they lost their top rusher (not a real loss), and receiver from last year.

ISiddiqui 07-27-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97 (Post 1792546)
wasting a #3 pick on a quarterback who may have been around for their second round pick.


You have to be insane to believe that. Ryan wouldn't have survived pick #8, if not pick #6.

SFL Cat 07-27-2008 11:37 PM

I'm not seeing Ryan prosper in Hotlanta this season. Hopefully the kid has some mental toughness, cuz if not...his confidence could be shot after the season.

Dola edit...I don't think he rated a #3 pick, but I also don't think he would have been around in the second round either.

ISiddiqui 07-27-2008 11:58 PM

I think Ryan won't be playing much until after midseason. Smith seems smart, so I think Redman will be getting a lot of snaps, especially early. If the o-line looks halfway decent, maybe Ryan gets a shot (at least more than 4 games or so).

Tigercat 07-28-2008 04:08 AM

It probably won't be the Falcons, just because someone will come out of nowhere to be more awful than most people think. But still, Atlanta is the safest bet by far.

Listening to sports talk radio here the other day and the callers and hosts were talking about 6-10 being the worst the team could end up. I am still not sure what kind of narcotics they were on. Its not hard to imagine the Falcons with only 2-4 wins.

CleBrownsfan 07-28-2008 06:40 AM

Had to go with Atlanta - I'll go with a 3-13 record to secure that 1st pick overall

jeheinz72 07-28-2008 08:20 AM

Hell I'm a Dolphins fan and even I think they should at least be on the list. I like the Chiefs for supreme suckitude though.

st.cronin 07-28-2008 12:26 PM

The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.

rkmsuf 07-28-2008 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1793200)
The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.


herm will have them playing to win the game

nilodor 07-28-2008 12:47 PM

I still think the fish have a good shot at it. I actually think they might be worse than last year and have less depth.

Fighter of Foo 07-28-2008 01:02 PM

I'm going Lions with the bonus of Matt Millen actually getting fired.

For season win totals, Vegas has Atlanta at 4.5 followed by Miami and KC at 5.5. Oakland, San Fran and Baltimore are at 6. Detroit and St. Louis are the last of the bad teams at 6.5.

RedKingGold 07-28-2008 01:16 PM

49er's. I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet, but that's probably how far they've fallen off the radar screen.

I love the team, but I really don't think they're going anywhere. Smith is a bust and Nolan is a much better coordinator than head coach.

ISiddiqui 07-28-2008 01:52 PM

Yeah, but Frank Gore is probably good enough for a few wins.

Noop 07-28-2008 01:54 PM

I see the Dolphins winning 9 games.... :)

albionmoonlight 07-28-2008 02:15 PM

Oakland. It all starts at the top. And Al has lost it. Sad to see, really. That franchise has a great history and tradition (because of him). But the NFL is too competitive for any franchise to do well with an owner like 2008 Al Davis.

Bad-example 07-28-2008 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1793344)
I see the Dolphins winning 9 games.... :)


Only if they go undefeated in the preseason.

Coffee Warlord 07-28-2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 1792525)
I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.


Luckily, we still get to play the Lions twice a year.

RedKingGold 07-28-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1793339)
Yeah, but Frank Gore is probably good enough for a few wins.


Perhaps in theory. However, the OC is Mike Martz, and as good as Gore is, he ain't Faulk.

st.cronin 09-14-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1793200)
The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.


Looking good so far.

JPhillips 09-14-2008 05:14 PM

Looks like a three team race to me, KC, StL, or Cincy.

hoopsguy 09-14-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1833327)
Looks like a three team race to me, KC, StL, or Cincy.


Show a little respect for the defending (#1 pick) champs.


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