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Mizzou B-ball fan 09-03-2008 10:22 AM

College Football: Week 2 Discussion.....
 
Here's the top 25 schedule. No matchups between ranked teams, though we do have 6 top 25 teams going on the road........

Central Michigan (1-0, 0-0 away)
(2) Georgia (1-0, 1-0 home)

Ohio (0-1, 0-1 away)
(3) Ohio St (1-0, 1-0 home)

Cincinnati (1-0, 0-0 away)
(4) Oklahoma (1-0, 1-0 home)

Miami (FL) (1-0, 0-0 away)
(5) Florida (1-0, 1-0 home)

Southeast Missouri St (1-0, 0-0 away)
(6) Missouri (1-0, 1-0 home)

Troy (1-0, 1-0 S. Belt)
(7) LSU (1-0, 1-0 home)

(8) West Virginia (1-0, 0-0 away)
East Carolina (1-0, 1-0 home)

Southern Miss (1-0, 0-0 away)
(9) Auburn (1-0, 1-0 home)

(10) Texas (1-0, 0-0 away)
UTEP (0-1, 0-0 home)

Marshall (1-0, 0-0 away)
(11) Wisconsin (1-0, 1-0 home)

(12) Texas Tech (1-0, 0-0 away)
Nevada (1-0, 1-0 home)

Tulane (0-0, 0-0 away)
(13) Alabama (1-0, 0-0 home)

Louisiana Tech (1-0, 0-0 away)
(14) Kansas (1-0, 1-0 home)

Stanford (1-0, 1-0 Pac-10)
(15) Arizona St (1-0, 1-0 home)

(15) Brigham Young (1-0, 0-0 away)
Washington (0-1, 0-1 Pac-10)

(17) South Florida (1-0, 0-0 away)
UCF (1-0, 1-0 home)

Utah St (0-1, 0-1 away)
(18) Oregon (1-0, 1-0 Pac-10)

Oregon St (0-1, 0-1 Pac-10)
(19) Penn St (1-0, 1-0 home)

Mississippi (1-0, 0-0 away)
(20) Wake Forest (1-0, 0-0 home)

UNLV (1-0, 0-0 away)
(22) Utah (1-0, 0-0 home)

Eastern Illinois (0-1, 0-1 away)
(24) Illinois (0-1, 0-0 home)

(24) South Carolina (1-0, 0-0 away)
Vanderbilt (1-0, 0-0 home)

larrymcg421 09-03-2008 11:20 AM

I'm afraid my Canes are going to get killed this weekend, but I'm hoping they can put up a good fight.

JonInMiddleGA 09-03-2008 11:35 AM

Blech. I see at least a slim chance of Miami/Florida being a game (rivalry & all), probably the best bet for a good game is WVU/ECU. Otherwise the only things I see would be oddball things like Stanford/ASU or OleMiss/Wake, which would likely be cases of teams not being as good as we thought instead of opponents being better than we thought.

Dr. Sak 09-03-2008 11:46 AM

I am really interested in that Ole Miss/Wake game

Cuckoo 09-03-2008 12:25 PM

Going to the OU/Cincy game. I think it's going to be a better game than the oddsmakers do. I still think OU pulls it out, but Cincy's not getting much love for a team that won 10 games last year (nearly beating WVU, if I remember right) and has plenty of talent, particularly on defense.

Galaxy 09-03-2008 12:26 PM

Pretty close to being a snooze fest. Miami/Florida may be the one game I'll watch closely.

Vegas Vic 09-03-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuckoo (Post 1823251)
I still think OU pulls it out, but Cincy's not getting much love for a team that won 10 games last year (nearly beating WVU, if I remember right) and has plenty of talent, particularly on defense.


They also demolished Oregon State last year and beat USF. They have one of the best defensive backfields in the country, including two corners who will be high NFL draft picks.

I expect this to be a very competitive game.

JonInMiddleGA 09-03-2008 01:07 PM

My Way - Sports News
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -LSU has postponed its football game against Troy after Hurricane Gustav rolled through Louisiana this week.

A person with direct knowledge of athletic scheduling at LSU told The Associated Press the Tigers' game versus the Trojans will be played Nov. 15. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the team had not been formally notified yet.

LSU has scheduled a press conference for 3 p.m. EDT.

LSU's football team met at the Tigers' on-campus training center Tuesday afternoon, then went ahead with practice.

Gustav caused some damage at Tiger Stadium, including broken glass and torn awnings over club seats. Debris littered the stands and playing field.

Pumpy Tudors 09-03-2008 01:35 PM

I'm thinking of making the drive up to Beaver Falls, PA, to watch Seton Hill University play against Geneva College. The schools were NAIA foes, but SHU has moved on to NCAA D-II, and Geneva just joined NCAA D-III. It should be an interesting game, and it is a chance for the young SHU program to get some more respect in Pennsylvania.

OK, the real reason is that my life is pathetic, I'll be bored as shit, and the drive is only an hour and a half.

wade moore 09-03-2008 01:39 PM

I'm not going to make the drive for the W&M at NC State game, but I'll be listening and rooting my ass off.

Wolfpack 09-03-2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1823318)
I'm not going to make the drive for the W&M at NC State game, but I'll be listening and rooting my ass off.


You might have a chance....

Dr. Sak 09-03-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1823313)
I'm thinking of making the drive up to Beaver Falls, PA, to watch Seton Hill University play against Geneva College. The schools were NAIA foes, but SHU has moved on to NCAA D-II, and Geneva just joined NCAA D-III. It should be an interesting game, and it is a chance for the young SHU program to get some more respect in Pennsylvania.

OK, the real reason is that my life is pathetic, I'll be bored as shit, and the drive is only an hour and a half.


They just beat Slippery Rock last week...that's a hell of a feat.

Pumpy Tudors 09-03-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1823554)
They just beat Slippery Rock last week...that's a hell of a feat.

That was epic. I wish I had been in town so I could've been there. Seton Hill has a winning record for the first time in its history!

Swaggs 09-03-2008 07:58 PM

Weather from Hannah (sp?) could have a pretty big effect on the WVU-ECU game this weekend. ECU, prior to last year, had played us very tough the last few seasons, so it should be a pretty good challenge.

Celeval 09-03-2008 09:18 PM

GT is heading up north to play Boston College - really no idea how this game will go. On one side, Tech played pretty well for their first game in a new system; on the other hand, BC is typically pretty solid against a run. I'm guessing it'll be a low-scoring game - both defensive lines are extremely solid, and while BC beat Kent State 21-0, the first two touchdowns were on short fields in the first quarter, and the last was very late. 17-14 game, but I'm not sure who will come out on top.

duckman 09-03-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuckoo (Post 1823251)
Going to the OU/Cincy game.

That's funny. I'm going to the game. We should hang out. :p

JeeberD 09-04-2008 08:37 AM

I don't care what happened last week, I think the Miners can keep this game decent. I think one of the reasons last week's game was so ugly was because CMP kept the offense very vanilla, and he'll open things up this week. We've also gained two defensive players who were just cleared to play by the NCAA Clearinghouse and have been practicing with the team all summer. Plus, of course, UT-Austin lost a defensive starter who was arrested and suspended...

The crowd is going to be HUGE and LOUD and will hopefully throw the Horns offense off some. Combine all these points together, and maybe the Miners keep it within two touchdowns? Please?

Cuckoo 09-04-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman (Post 1824108)
That's funny. I'm going to the game. We should hang out. :p


Leave me alone stalker... :wagfingers:

MacroGuru 09-04-2008 10:53 AM

(15) Brigham Young (1-0, 0-0 away)
Washington (0-1, 0-1 Pac-10)


Here is a bit of scary trivia for you. BYU has not won a non conference game on the road since 2001 at Mississippi State.

That stat alone, with Washington now having a very big chip on their shoulder has me very concerned about this game.

Dr. Sak 09-04-2008 12:11 PM

I wish I would've known that stat last night!

Either way I think BYU wins by at least 17.

MizzouRah 09-04-2008 01:03 PM

Pinkel.. DO NOT PLAY MACKLIN THIS WEEKEND!!!

I mean.. it's SEMO for criminy sakes!

dawgfan 09-04-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 1824385)
(15) Brigham Young (1-0, 0-0 away)
Washington (0-1, 0-1 Pac-10)


Here is a bit of scary trivia for you. BYU has not won a non conference game on the road since 2001 at Mississippi State.

That stat alone, with Washington now having a very big chip on their shoulder has me very concerned about this game.

I have little doubt that in terms of talent, UW is certainly capable of beating BYU - plus they are at home.

But that is counteracted in a big way by the UW's head coach. Advantage Cougars...

Alan T 09-04-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval (Post 1823923)
GT is heading up north to play Boston College - really no idea how this game will go. On one side, Tech played pretty well for their first game in a new system; on the other hand, BC is typically pretty solid against a run. I'm guessing it'll be a low-scoring game - both defensive lines are extremely solid, and while BC beat Kent State 21-0, the first two touchdowns were on short fields in the first quarter, and the last was very late. 17-14 game, but I'm not sure who will come out on top.



I'll be quietly rooting, in order to not get beat up by BC fans.

JHandley 09-04-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 1824385)
(15) Brigham Young (1-0, 0-0 away)
Washington (0-1, 0-1 Pac-10)


Here is a bit of scary trivia for you. BYU has not won a non conference game on the road since 2001 at Mississippi State.

That stat alone, with Washington now having a very big chip on their shoulder has me very concerned about this game.


A friend of mine told me at the beginning of the season, the very worst thing that could happen to UW was if they went 6-6, 7-5 or 5-7. It needs to be one extreme or the other, or else the program will accept mediocrity. He didn't want them to finish last, again, but would rather that than sliding into a low tier bowl game.

After watching their performance against Oregon, he's not worried about 6 and 6 anymore. They just aren't good.

I wouldn't worry too much about UW being fired up for this game. UW has never lost to Oregon more than 4 times in a row in their history until last Saturday. If WSU is UW's #1 rival, then Oregon is definitely 1A. If that isn't enough to get the kids to play with intensity, this game won't be either.

Dr. Sak 09-04-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1824454)
I'll be quietly rooting, in order to not get beat up by the BC fan.


Fixed for you

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-04-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1824448)
Pinkel.. DO NOT PLAY MACKLIN THIS WEEKEND!!!

I mean.. it's SEMO for criminy sakes!


I had heard they were sitting him out. Has that changed?

I'm inviting over 10 guys to play poker on Saturday and having them chip in on the PPV cost on the game so I only end up paying a few dollars. :)

dawgfan 09-04-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHandley (Post 1824458)
A friend of mine told me at the beginning of the season, the very worst thing that could happen to UW was if they went 6-6, 7-5 or 5-7. It needs to be one extreme or the other, or else the program will accept mediocrity. He didn't want them to finish last, again, but would rather that than sliding into a low tier bowl game.

Agreed 100% - either Ty proves all of us doubters wrong in a big way with at least 8 wins, or he needs to flame out to make it crystal clear he needs to go and the UW doesn't wimp out again by not firing him. It actually wouldn't shock me if Ty were to offer his resignation if the team starts off 0-4. Losing the first 3 games won't be considered hugely surprising given the schedule, but losing to Stanford would and would underscore the tepid pace of improvement (if it even exists) under Ty compared to Stanford under Harbaugh.

What kills me is the lowered expectations that so many UW fans came to accept during Ty's time here. This is a program that fired Jim Lambright despite him never having a losing season, because the team dipped down to 6-6 under him. This is a program that, from 1977 to 2003, never had a losing record. A program that had consecutive losing seasons only 7 times in its history and only 1 instance of 3 consecutive losing seasons until Ty came along. And yet there are those that excuse Ty by claiming the UW was in the worst shape it's ever been when he took over and that it's completely unrealistic to expect him to turn things around quickly.

Bullshit. There are countless examples of other coaches at other programs that are down in the dumps turning things around in 2 years. We're now in year 4 of Ty, and things don't look much better than when he started.

Dr. Sak 09-04-2008 01:46 PM

I hope UW beats ND...that would be great.

JHandley 09-04-2008 01:57 PM

I'm not a UW fan, per se, but living in the area for 5 years now I've followed the program pretty closely. I was one of the Ty apologists because I felt the team he got from Gilbertson was one of the worst in the nation. However, you just can't do what he's doing.

You can't finish last, second to last and last. You can't lose to Oregon 3 times and carry on a tradition of losing to them 5 times in a row. You can't have your kids come out last week looking like they'd never met each other.

His time is done.

dawgfan 09-04-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1824473)
I hope UW beats ND...that would be great.

It would, especially considering the UW is 0 for Notre Dame.

timmynausea 09-04-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1823800)
Weather from Hannah (sp?) could have a pretty big effect on the WVU-ECU game this weekend. ECU, prior to last year, had played us very tough the last few seasons, so it should be a pretty good challenge.


I'm pretty concerned about this one.

timmynausea 09-04-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuckoo (Post 1823251)
Going to the OU/Cincy game. I think it's going to be a better game than the oddsmakers do. I still think OU pulls it out, but Cincy's not getting much love for a team that won 10 games last year (nearly beating WVU, if I remember right) and has plenty of talent, particularly on defense.


I'm intrigued by this game. My gut reaction is that Oklahoma will win huge, but for the reasons you point out I think it could end up being fairly close. If Cincy still had Mauk they might have a better chance, but I don't think their new starter is bad, either. Brian Kelley is a great coach.

larrymcg421 09-04-2008 03:00 PM

I'm hoping Jacory Harris gets alot of action in this one for the Canes. I'm still not convinced that Mavre is better than him.

Galaxy 09-04-2008 03:06 PM

Do you think Miami has the ability to get back it's old form with Shannon? With the top class, they seem to have the foundation for that.

larrymcg421 09-04-2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1824511)
Do you think Miami has the ability to get back it's old form with Shannon? With the top class, they seem to have the foundation for that.


Shannon has proven that he can recruit. The jury is still out on if he can coach. The Coker teams that fell apart also had top classes. The recruits didn't stop coming until the last couple Coker classes, and even those were still top 20.

I do like Shannon alot, and think he deserves at least one season beyond this one no matter what. Still, I certainly hope we improve on last year's disaster and also beat FSU again.

ntndeacon 09-04-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1823224)
I am really interested in that Ole Miss/Wake game


I am really interesed in the Wake game as well. I am looking for a double digit win for Wake. I think the Tech-BC game has potential for being a great game.

Noop 09-04-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1824504)
I'm hoping Jacory Harris gets alot of action in this one for the Canes. I'm still not convinced that Mavre is better than him.


Actually Marve is called little Tebow by some of his teammates. From what I have been told Marve is the better of the two.

timmynausea 09-04-2008 04:46 PM

Kirk Herbstreit, Todd McShay and Trev Alberts have now all picked East Carolina over West Virginia. I actually think WVU has pretty vastly superior talent. I'm just concerned about playing in a hurricane with a young defense and some crazy stuff happening. If we played this one in a month it could be a lot like the 48-7 game last year. Right now, the pieces on defense are still coming together and it could be a close one.

MizzouRah 09-04-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1824463)
I had heard they were sitting him out. Has that changed?

I'm inviting over 10 guys to play poker on Saturday and having them chip in on the PPV cost on the game so I only end up paying a few dollars. :)


The last I heard, he was only playing if he was 100%, but I hope you are right. Heck, he could sit out the next 4 weeks if they really wanted him too.

I'm heading over to my dad's as he's buying the game. :)

GrantDawg 09-05-2008 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1824454)
I'll be quietly rooting, in order to not get beat up by BC fans.



My wife's boss is flying up for that game. Hopefully he survives. :lol:

BTW, how in God's name does the Ole Ball Coach lose to Vandy two years in a row? I thought for sure this would be the year the Gamecocks start really competeing, but it seems they are the same team they always have been. They'll play ranked opponents rough, and even beat a couple, but then lose to vast inferior teams. I just don't get it. SC has the money, the fan-base, a strong recruiting ground, and has had some strong coaches, but just can't seem to turn the corner from being an also-ran.

Alan T 09-05-2008 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1824908)
My wife's boss is flying up for that game. Hopefully he survives. :lol:

BTW, how in God's name does the Ole Ball Coach lose to Vandy two years in a row? I thought for sure this would be the year the Gamecocks start really competeing, but it seems they are the same team they always have been. They'll play ranked opponents rough, and even beat a couple, but then lose to vast inferior teams. I just don't get it. SC has the money, the fan-base, a strong recruiting ground, and has had some strong coaches, but just can't seem to turn the corner from being an also-ran.


Shouldn't be a problem for them really. I was talking mostly tongue in cheek. If he can survive going to UGA vs Tech games, or such, then this will be a breeze. For the most part, the Northeast seems far more apathetic about college sports than anywhere else I have lived. They seem much more into pro sports than college sports. I guess I would compare college sports fans here to be fairly equal to Falcons fans back home.

Butter 09-05-2008 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1824908)
BTW, how in God's name does the Ole Ball Coach lose to Vandy two years in a row? I thought for sure this would be the year the Gamecocks start really competeing, but it seems they are the same team they always have been. They'll play ranked opponents rough, and even beat a couple, but then lose to vast inferior teams. I just don't get it. SC has the money, the fan-base, a strong recruiting ground, and has had some strong coaches, but just can't seem to turn the corner from being an also-ran.


Spurrier is not the coach he once was. His innovative offensive schemes are now standard if not behind the times. And his skills with kids have always been questionable.

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-05-2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1824642)
The last I heard, he was only playing if he was 100%, but I hope you are right. Heck, he could sit out the next 4 weeks if they really wanted him too.

I'm heading over to my dad's as he's buying the game. :)


I saw a big donor post on the Rivals message board that Maclin has been cleared to play on Saturday, though no official announcement has been made. I hope they keep him on the sidelines.

MizzouRah 09-05-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1824920)
I saw a big donor post on the Rivals message board that Maclin has been cleared to play on Saturday, though no official announcement has been made. I hope they keep him on the sidelines.


Oh no... seriously.. keep him on the sidelines!!!

TazFTW 09-05-2008 07:44 PM

Go Navy!

Buccaneer 09-05-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 1824305)
I don't care what happened last week, I think the Miners can keep this game decent.


Good lord, are you still that delusional????

Only OSU-Ohio has a bigger spread and that's saying a lot since there are a lot of mismatches this week.

MizzouRah 09-06-2008 09:56 AM

My dad just called and told me he had something come up.. no game at his house. :(

Sucks that it's $30 to watch the game today.

Icy 09-06-2008 10:33 AM

As USF or MIA(fl) aren't playing early, which of this games to watch in 30 minutes? (probably can watch two at same time)

12:00 PM - 03:00 PM
College Football: Connecticut at Temple [16]
12:00 PM - 03:30 PM
College Football: Eastern Michigan at Michigan State [11]
12:00 PM - 03:30 PM
College Football: Georgia Tech at Boston College [4]
12:00 PM - 03:30 PM
College Football: Miami (OH) at Michigan [3]
12:00 PM - 03:30 PM
College Football: Marshall vs #11 Wisconsin [26]
12:00 PM - 03:00 PM
College Football: Ohio vs #3 Ohio St. [5]
12:30 PM - 03:30 PM
College Football: Soutern Mississippi vs. #9 Auburn [12]

RPI-Fan 09-06-2008 11:11 AM

Georgia Tech v. Boston college is a no brainer... then I'd also consider Miami/Michigan and SoMiss/Auburn fo rthe 2nd game.

GrantDawg 09-06-2008 11:38 AM

Tech moving the ball well. Big chunks on the ground and enough in the air to keep it rolling. Very nice series. 7-3.


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