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Qwikshot 09-15-2008 04:05 PM

Fantasy Football Trade Advice
 
Sorries...

Team is willing to part with Steve Smith (Carolina) for John Stewart/Chris Johnson and Eagles defense.

My team is:

QB - Cutler
RB - Addai
RB - Lynch
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Brandon Marshall
TE - Cooley

Bench - John Stewart, Chris Johnson, Anthony Gonzales, M. Colston, Cassel

Now I only can start two receivers...but this is an eight team league (no PPR), and having Smith allows for solid depth and possible trades in the future.

Would most of you pull the trigger or figure it leaves me too lean on running back (he's got Ryan Grant, Jamal Lewis, Kevin Smith and Fred Taylor).

Any help is appreciated...

MikeVic 09-15-2008 04:08 PM

I'd leave your team as is.

MikeVic 09-17-2008 09:01 AM

I'll just piggy back on the first thread I see. Was offered this today:

Send Chris Johnson, Ten RB
Send DeSean Jackson, Phi WR
Send Jake Delhomme, Car QB
Receive Peyton Manning, Ind QB
Receive Vincent Jackson, SD WR

My starting QB is Derek Anderson, and starting WRs are Reggie Wayne and Santonio Holmes (with Eddie Royal also on the bench). Starting RBs are Addai and Johnson, with Selvin Young, Fred Taylor, ad Andre Hall on the bench.

Getting Manning to connect with Wayne would be cool, but I think I'd be screwing myself in the RB department don't you think?

Fidatelo 09-17-2008 09:10 AM

I'm never a fan of having both a QB and his receiver. Every time their team has a bad game, you almost assuredly lose your fantasy week.

MikeVic 09-17-2008 09:26 AM

Thanks. I feel like I should trade my somewhat depth at WR. I was doomed in this league from the start... had a high pick but traded my 1st rounder. So 22 players were picked, plus two keepers for each team, before I got my first selection. So I ended up having to gamble on almost every player, and it's why my depth isn't good. I'm hoping for Delhomme to step it up with Smith back, or Anderson to wake up...

Mustang 09-17-2008 10:13 AM

I don't do that trade. You would have Manning, Wayne and Addai.. .with the struggles of the Colts O-line right now, I'm not sold on them the early part of this year and that just seems like you are setting yourself up to potentially have a very bad week.

Not to mention, I like Chris Johnson anyways so... I'd stay pat

Qwikshot 09-17-2008 10:23 AM

I like Chris Johnson too.

Btw I didn't trade with the guy, but he then traded Boldin for Willie Parker to the guy who has Barber and Gore as running backs, Fitzgerald as his other WR, and Brees as his QB. I think the league is lost. I should have done the trade just to block something like this.

illinifan999 09-17-2008 07:01 PM

I have 2 trades right now, and they both are pretty tempting.

My team is:

QB - Delhomme
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Anthony Gonzalez
WR - Devry Henderson
RB - Adrian Peterson
RB- Edgerrin James
TE - Jeremy Shockey

Palmer, Colston, Ricky Williams, Reggie Brown (PHI), and Anthony Fasano are the backups.

I'm getting offered Santana Moss, and Julius Jones for Adrian Peterson in the first deal.

The second deal is Thomas Jones and Phillip Rivers for Adrian Peterson.

Any ideas?

Qwikshot 09-17-2008 07:54 PM

Trade 1 - Never trade Adrian Peterson

Trade 2 - Never trade Adrian Peterson

Drop Reggie Brown and get any free agent receiver that's viable. Delhomme is going to do better with Steve Smith back.

Never trade Adrian Peterson

Lathum 09-17-2008 07:56 PM

I think if you do either of those deals you will go down as the worst fantasy player in history.

illinifan999 09-17-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1836599)
I think if you do either of those deals you will go down as the worst fantasy player in history.


I'd think with my lineup I'm already pretty close. ;)

Qwikshot 09-18-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999 (Post 1836571)
I have 2 trades right now, and they both are pretty tempting.

My team is:

QB - Delhomme
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Anthony Gonzalez
WR - Devry Henderson
RB - Adrian Peterson
RB- Edgerrin James
TE - Jeremy Shockey

Palmer, Colston, Ricky Williams, Reggie Brown (PHI), and Anthony Fasano are the backups.

I'm getting offered Santana Moss, and Julius Jones for Adrian Peterson in the first deal.

The second deal is Thomas Jones and Phillip Rivers for Adrian Peterson.

Any ideas?


You gotta weather the storm. How big is the league? What are the points? What free agents are out there. Adrian and Calvin are your foundations. If you trade Adrian it's for a guy like Westbrook. Julius Jones was RBBC (while promising nowhere near AP) and Thomas Jones doesn't have the upside.

If anything AP is going to keep you in games - all four of the players you got offered won't singlehandly keep you competitve until Colston comes back and Palmer returns to some decent form.

Now don't hesistate to bring in another QB if you don't trust Delhomme but I think he improves with Steve Smith back. Palmer is shaky but not droppable, should he return to some servicable form, he's definately valuable.

MikeVic 09-18-2008 01:59 PM

I would not trade AP in those deals.

Racer 09-18-2008 05:45 PM

How did I make out in this trade? I traded Eli Manning and Chris Perry for Ben Roethlisberger and Owen Daniels. The other owner is really high on Aaron Rodgers and wanted more depth at running back, so that's why he accepted the trade I think.

There are 14 teams in the league. League settings are 1 point per 50 yards passing, 1 point per 20 yards receiving/rushing, 6 points for all touchdowns, .5 points per reception and -2 points for interceptions/fumbles lost. We start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 DEF. We are allowed to keep three players each year. There are no limits for how many players you can keep at any one position

My roster after the trade:

QB: Jay Cutler, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Joseph Addai, Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte
WR: Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Matt Jones, Isaac Bruce, Marquis Colston
TE: Owen Daniels, Dante Rosario
K: Mason Crosby
DEF: Buffalo Bills

His Roster after the trade:

QB: Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning
RB: Brian Westbrook, Larry Johnson, Chris Perry, Chester Taylor, Derrick Ward
WR: Greg Jennings, Roy Williams, Derrick Mason, Justin Gage, Greg Lewis
TE: John Carlson
K: John Carney
DEF: New York Giants

The reason why I made this trade is because I'd like to upgrade my #3 wide receiver (Dwayne Bowe) for a better wide receiver and the wide receivers I am targeting are on teams that are potentially weak at quarterback. I also was in desperate need for a tight end and I feel Owen Daniels should be a pretty good one in PPR leagues this year.

illinifan999 09-18-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot (Post 1837199)
Palmer is shaky but not droppable, should he return to some servicable form, he's definately valuable.


Ok, what about Palmer for a case of beer? :p

Qwikshot 09-18-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999 (Post 1837414)
Ok, what about Palmer for a case of beer? :p



It's week 2 going into week 3...kind of rushing it.

Least it isn't bad as a team in my league trading Randy Moss for Desean Jackson...:eek:

TLK 09-19-2008 08:30 AM

TD/Yardage/Milestone league

Any thoughts on Michael Turner for Matt Forte & Dwayne Bowe?

MikeVic 09-19-2008 08:46 AM

Whichever side gets Forte and Bowe is the winner in that one I think. I like Forte over Turner.

BrianD 09-19-2008 08:51 AM

Turner is going to see a lot of guys stacked in the box for the rest of this season. Expect his week 2 numbers to be more likely than his week 1 numbers.

MikeVic 09-19-2008 09:12 AM

Another offer...
Trade Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac RB
Get Torry Holt, StL WR
Get LenDale White, Ten RB

My WR are Santonio Holmes, Jerricho Cotchery, and Eddie Royal... RB are Jones-Drew, Clinton Portis, and Ronnie Brown. I think this trade doesn't help me at all. I want to replace Jones-Drew because I think he's going to suck, but this doesn't seem to do much...

BrianD 09-19-2008 09:26 AM

I'm still believing that Jones-Drew will put up good numbers this year. LenDale White scares me this year with Johnson in the mix. He may get some goal-line carries, but Johnson is much more explosive and will probably start to get more of the carries. Holt would be nice when StL finally starts playing, but your WR squad isn't too bad already.

PackerFanatic 09-19-2008 10:00 AM

I agree with Brian. You aren't really helping yourself at all with that trade.

SnDvls 09-19-2008 12:02 PM

Not really trade advice, but who to play advice

QB: Favre vs SD or Warner vs Wash

I did have Brady pre injury

Qwikshot 09-19-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1837985)
Not really trade advice, but who to play advice

QB: Favre vs SD or Warner vs Wash

I did have Brady pre injury


If it was me, I'd go Warner, however, Warner is always an injury away. Favre could lose his leg and still stay in the game.

MikeVic 09-19-2008 01:52 PM

Yeah that's a tough one. Warner's looked good, but Favre can explode too.

PackerFanatic 09-19-2008 02:04 PM

Someone is trying to sell high on Addai and Housh right now - the way those four are playing, that someone is making out like a bandit.

Qwikshot 09-19-2008 02:19 PM

[/quote]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1838083)
M. Lynch/B. Marshall for Addai/Housh

Thoughts?


Who else do you have? What is the point system?

I like Lynch and I feel he'll do well against Oakland this weekend. Marshall is going to pop big too. I'd have to evaluate on who else I would have.

I have Addai and Lynch on my team right now, with Marshall as my starting WR.

BrianD 09-19-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1837985)
Not really trade advice, but who to play advice

QB: Favre vs SD or Warner vs Wash

I did have Brady pre injury


I'd probably go with Warner on this one. Washington looked good against the Saints, but Arizona's receivers are much better. SD hasn't been great so far, but I think their defense will do OK against NY.

Now, I'll ask the same question but replace Favre with Cassel against Miami.

QB: Cassel vs MIA or Warner vs Wash?

PurdueBrad 09-19-2008 02:43 PM

Cassel vs. Miami, I think. He's got to start learning to use the weapons around him (particularly Moss) and this seems like a good chance.

I've got this quandry for anyone that has advice:
Hasselbeck vs. St. Louis, Favre vs. San Diego, or Garrard vs. Indy (start 1)

and

S. Jackson vs. Seattle, Portis vs. Arizona, Jacobs vs. Cincy, Jones vs. St. Louis (start 2 and we are a PPR league)

Thanks for any advice.

bigmike75 09-19-2008 02:46 PM

what does anyone think about this trade, 12 team league im offering

hasselback, lee evans and john carlson getting

brees, crayton..

thanks in advance

MikeVic 09-19-2008 02:49 PM

I don't think the other team would accept.

PurdueBrad 09-19-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmike75 (Post 1838147)
what does anyone think about this trade, 12 team league im offering

hasselback, lee evans and john carlson getting

brees, crayton..

thanks in advance


Yeah, I would highly doubt that this would be accepted as well as Brees is ahead of Hasslebeck (particularly now that Matt has nobody around him) and I think Crayton is above Evans (even more so in a PPR).

TLK 09-19-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1838150)
I don't think the other team would accept.


X2


WDIS?

C. Palmer @ NYG
M. Bulger @ SEA
J. Campbell vs. ARI

MikeVic 09-19-2008 03:11 PM

I don't trust Palmer vs Giants. Bulger could maybe do something, as can Campbell. I think Campbell.

stevew 09-19-2008 03:35 PM

Some dude did Petersen and Crayton for Turner/Bowe/Forte

Is that as bad as I think it is?

MikeVic 09-19-2008 03:44 PM

The team that had Turner/Bowe/Forte got a very good deal.

SnDvls 09-19-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1838136)
I'd probably go with Warner on this one. Washington looked good against the Saints, but Arizona's receivers are much better. SD hasn't been great so far, but I think their defense will do OK against NY.

Now, I'll ask the same question but replace Favre with Cassel against Miami.

QB: Cassel vs MIA or Warner vs Wash?


I'd go Cassel....after watching AZ tear up Miami last week they are as bad as they look.

SnDvls 09-19-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1838145)
Cassel vs. Miami, I think. He's got to start learning to use the weapons around him (particularly Moss) and this seems like a good chance.

I've got this quandry for anyone that has advice:
Hasselbeck vs. St. Louis, Favre vs. San Diego, or Garrard vs. Indy (start 1)

and

S. Jackson vs. Seattle, Portis vs. Arizona, Jacobs vs. Cincy, Jones vs. St. Louis (start 2 and we are a PPR league)

Thanks for any advice.


jacobs vs Cincy for sure....it's a toss up between Jones or Jacskon for me, but I'd probally lean jones as the OL for St. Louis isn't great right now.

I'd go Hasselbeck for the QB the other two will have much tougher defenses IMO (indy's is bound to have a good game at some point right)

PurdueBrad 09-20-2008 10:20 AM

Thanks a ton SnDvls!

Uncle Briggs 09-20-2008 02:11 PM

Okay, Packer fans... start Ryan Grant or Brandon Jackson this week? Grant is listed as probable, but I still expect Jackson to carry most of the load. Thoughts?

Also: Donnie McNabb vs. Steelers or Aaron Rodgers vs. Cowboys? My thought is it's still too soon to trust Rodgers over McNabb.

Edit: reposted in the lineup advice thread where this belongs.

Apathetic Lurker 09-20-2008 06:37 PM

okay what do you think?

IDP league, multi season type.

I have D Anderson and M Colston from my team going for (potentially) J Campbell and L Coles.

My receiver corps is piss poor
M Booker
S Hurd
Sant Moss
D Hester
M Jenkins
M Jones
R Parrish

Qb collection is piss poor too with T Edwards and J P Losman


Should I pull the trigger on this trade?

adubroff 09-20-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker (Post 1839069)
okay what do you think?

IDP league, multi season type.

I have D Anderson and M Colston from my team going for (potentially) J Campbell and L Coles.

My receiver corps is piss poor
M Booker
S Hurd
Sant Moss
D Hester
M Jenkins
M Jones
R Parrish

Qb collection is piss poor too with T Edwards and J P Losman


Should I pull the trigger on this trade?



Stay away from Coles...well not away, but he's not as good as Colston healthy. He and Farve have had some issues and it's clear that Cotchery is the #1. If Colston is going to be back, which I thought was was the case, I would just wait it out and pray. The QB end of this doesn't excite me either way...

Apathetic Lurker 09-20-2008 07:33 PM

im not a big fan of coles either, but anderson scares me. he seems less of a sure thing long term than campbell and i would have that connection with campbell and moss.
Have to figure out how long Farve plans on being a Jet too...ugh , why did I get rid of Battle and Welker 3 yrs ago?

samifan24 09-30-2008 10:55 PM

Who would you rather own: David Garrard or Matt Schaub? My starter is Philip Rivers but an owner in my league just dropped Schaub.


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