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cartman 09-25-2008 08:53 PM

College Football Week 5 thread
 
Oregon State is giving USC fits so far.

TazFTW 09-25-2008 08:58 PM

Beat SC!

TazFTW 09-25-2008 09:26 PM

Wow.

DeToxRox 09-25-2008 09:27 PM

Wow, it's all going OSU's way early.

cartman 09-25-2008 09:28 PM

21-0 at the half. Definitely the shocker of the season so far.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 09:32 PM

I'm in shock.

Wolfpack 09-25-2008 09:32 PM

Heh. The afternoon drivetime radio guys (well, one of them, anyway) likes to make predictions on the Thursday night games and last year, he couldn't miss. This year, he hasn't gotten one right yet. He picked USC in tonight's game, of course, and by 30 points at that. Oopsie.

Tigercat 09-25-2008 09:33 PM

When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.

DeToxRox 09-25-2008 09:35 PM

Carroll is still a great defensive coach, but tonight the D looks pathetic.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 1843424)
When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.


Carroll is an excellent in game coach who has a history of being one of the best at making 2nd half adjustments. Look at the point differential in the 2nd half of USC over the last 7 years and it tells the story convincingly.

CU Tiger 09-25-2008 09:44 PM

Well OSU has covered 9 straight against USC.
The OSU +26 seemed too easy...I only hope it continues and if so tomorrow will be 2 paydays in one....

Tigercat 09-25-2008 09:46 PM

I don't know. Unlike most LSU fans, I have no axe to grind with USC. But USC should crush everyone in the Pac-10 year in and year out with the talent they have. I mean really, the talent level going into USC and Oregon State isn't close. It is several galaxies away from close. There is no excuse to be losing by 21 to this team at half, there is no excuse for being within a mile of Stanford. No excuse losing to UCLA in 2006, ect ect ect. (And when I say no excuse, to put it in another two teams terms, USC losing to most Pac-10 teams is equivelent to Florida losing to UCF.)

The deficit I see with USC coaching is that they neither seem to motivate consistently nor do their players ever play with a great amount of discipline. If you want to instill a team identity beyond having a roster full of super athletes, you need to do one or the other well. (Or preferably a combination of both.)

cartman 09-25-2008 09:50 PM

might want to do an edit there, 'cat. :)

mckerney 09-25-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 1843424)
When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.


Bill Simmons wrote that he was a subpar coach after USC lost to Texas, noting something to the effect that everything he did wrong as a head coach in the NFL he still seemed to still do in college, he just made up for it with much better players. Other than that I haven't seen anyone else say something similar.

cartman 09-25-2008 09:53 PM

I'm surprised they have Erin Andrews covering a Beavers game.

:D

VPI97 09-25-2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1843430)
Look at the point differential in the 2nd half of USC over the last 7 years and it tells the story convincingly.

I'm not arguing whether he's a great game day coach or not, but I've always felt that the second half/late game strength of 'elite' teams is just as much due to depth of talent as it is to coaching adjustments. I look to VT games like our '96 Orange Bowl vs Nebraska (14-17 at the half; 21-41 loss at the end) and the '99 title game vs FSU (29-28 VT after three; 29-46 loss at the end) to illustrate that point.

Vegas Vic 09-25-2008 10:02 PM

Get ready, boys. Here it comes.

Tigercat 09-25-2008 10:03 PM

OSU needs to score at least 14 more to win this one.

Karlifornia 09-25-2008 10:06 PM

Come on, SC....

kingnebwsu 09-25-2008 10:06 PM

Here we go...for USC that is ;)

Vegas Vic 09-25-2008 10:19 PM

Stick a fork in Oregon State. They're done. It was exciting for a while, though.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 10:19 PM

Could be just their depth, but this looks like some good adjustments by the coaching staff to me.

cartman 09-25-2008 10:40 PM

If Oregon State can score on this drive and make it a two score game, the new clock rules will make it really difficult for USC to come back. This is a huge drive coming up.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 10:44 PM

Huge stop.

cartman 09-25-2008 10:49 PM

3 and out by USC deep in their own territory

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 10:57 PM

*lets out a long breath* backup kicker FTW!

Vegas Vic 09-25-2008 10:58 PM

No points on that drive by OSU. That was a backbreaker.

Tigercat 09-25-2008 11:00 PM

Don't let it bug you Sanchez, I hit the thumbstick on the road on accident all the time.

cartman 09-25-2008 11:03 PM

another 3 and out by USC. OSU can ice the game on this next possession.

dawgfan 09-25-2008 11:06 PM

Oregon State is a very well-coached team, and they have a history of starting slow but then picking up steam as the year progresses under Riley. Seeing them threaten to upset USC is not a surprise at all - Riley's done it before, and even considering this may be a down year in the Pac-10, it's still very, very hard to run the table in-conference.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 11:12 PM

Time for McKnight to redeem himself.

cartman 09-25-2008 11:13 PM

USC has a LONG way to go

JonInMiddleGA 09-25-2008 11:13 PM

Ugliest pair of good punts I can recall seeing in quite a while.

JonInMiddleGA 09-25-2008 11:14 PM

Oops.

Karlifornia 09-25-2008 11:14 PM

HOLYSHIT! INT!!!!!!!!

DeToxRox 09-25-2008 11:14 PM

Get security ready!

cartman 09-25-2008 11:14 PM

Ball game! OSU is gonna win!

miami_fan 09-25-2008 11:15 PM

Wow

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 11:15 PM

Congrats to any Oregon State fans on the board. Great gameplan by Riley and his staff and Jacquizz Rodgers was incredible tonight.

miami_fan 09-25-2008 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1843547)
Get security ready!


Should be some good beatdowns by security tonight

cartman 09-25-2008 11:16 PM

Touchdown Oregon State.

cartman 09-25-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic (Post 1843495)
Stick a fork in Oregon State. They're done. It was exciting for a while, though.


Yep. Too bad.

:D

DeToxRox 09-25-2008 11:20 PM

OSU scoring was so stupid. They should've taken a few knees before trying to score.

cartman 09-25-2008 11:21 PM

Well, that makes things interesting. It comes down to the onsides now.

Vegas Vic 09-25-2008 11:21 PM

It ain't over yet.

DeToxRox 09-25-2008 11:21 PM

And just like that this isn't over.

Eaglesfan27 09-25-2008 11:22 PM

Please...

cartman 09-25-2008 11:23 PM

Now it is ballgame

TargetPractice6 09-25-2008 11:23 PM

I wanted USC to recover that just to spite the OSU fans.

cartman 09-25-2008 11:26 PM

Does this portend another Upset Saturday?


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