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MikeVic 10-01-2008 10:07 AM

NFL Fantasy Week 5
 
Who to start (not a PPR league):

Santonio Holmes
Eddie Royal
DeSean Jackson

Holmes finally got a TD, but I don't expect much vs the Jags. I'd go with Jackson, except I think maybe the Skins can stop him... so that defaults to Royal. Smart choice?

Travis 10-01-2008 10:24 AM

Royal is going to be a roller coaster being the #2 guy and the Eagles really seem to find ways to get the ball to Jackson. To me it's a gut call type situation but I do like Royal in a game where the Bronco's should be coming out a bit mad.

On my front, in one league I have to decide on Turner (@ GB) or Portis (@ Phi) for my 2nd RB spot (leaning towards Portis after he got the job done against Dallas) while in another league I've got to choose between Turner (@ GB), Jones-Drew (vs Pit), Royal (vs TB) or Bowe (@ Car) for a RB/WR flex spot. Any suggestions on those two (both are non ppr leagues)?

MikeVic 10-01-2008 10:28 AM

I hate going with the same player in two leagues if I have a choice... which is why Jackson for me might be an option, since Royal is my only choice in another league.

So saying that, if I went with Portis for your first choice, I think Turner is good for the second. Jones-Drew might not do well for Pit... I don't trust Bowe much... but Royal is also an option. And I think I'd choose RB over WR, but that's just my opinion.

Samdari 10-01-2008 11:18 AM

Look at Turner's home/road splits. Starting him on the road is iffy.

Racer 10-01-2008 11:33 AM

League settings: 1 point per 20 yards receiving/rushing (fractional scoring), 6 points for all touchdowns, .5 points per reception and -2 points for fumbles lost.

I can start two of the following five running backs.

Joseph Addai (@Houston)
Reggie Bush (Minnesota)
Matt Forte (@Detroit)
Chris Johnson(@Baltimore)
Steve Slaton (Indianapolis)

Who do I start?

MikeVic 10-01-2008 11:34 AM

Forte and (Bush or Addai).

Fighter of Foo 10-01-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari (Post 1848617)
Look at Turner's home/road opponents. Starting him against Green Bay is iffy.


Fixed that for ya ;)

johnnyshaka 10-01-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis (Post 1848577)
Royal is going to be a roller coaster being the #2 guy and the Eagles really seem to find ways to get the ball to Jackson. To me it's a gut call type situation but I do like Royal in a game where the Bronco's should be coming out a bit mad.

On my front, in one league I have to decide on Turner (@ GB) or Portis (@ Phi) for my 2nd RB spot (leaning towards Portis after he got the job done against Dallas) while in another league I've got to choose between Turner (@ GB), Jones-Drew (vs Pit), Royal (vs TB) or Bowe (@ Car) for a RB/WR flex spot. Any suggestions on those two (both are non ppr leagues)?


Yes, I'm an Eagles' fan...but the Eagles have the best run defense in the league right now...shut down Jackson, Parker, and Forte. Barber had a big game...but so did every other offensive player on both teams.

The Packers are the exact opposite...they shut down Detroit's run game...big whoop. ADP, Barber, and Graham all had great games.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Turner's home/road splits (after a whole 4 games) should be tossed out the window this week.

johnnyshaka 10-01-2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari (Post 1848617)
Look at Turner's home/road splits. Starting him on the road is iffy.


Green Bay is giving up 160 yards/game on the ground and even better, that goes up to over 200 yards/game at home.

With Rogders banged up and quite possibly riding the pine, or leaving early, there could be a lot of 3-and-outs for GB which puts the ball in Turner's hands a lot more.

I'll be starting Turner with confidence this week.

samifan24 10-01-2008 12:54 PM

I posted this in an older thread but thought it might get more attention here.

Which QB would you rather own from now till the end of the season, David Garrard or Matt Schaub? My starter is Philip Rivers and I have Garrard as my backup.

TLK 10-01-2008 12:59 PM

Any thoughts on Santana Moss/Jason Campbell for Philip Rivers/Dwayne Bowe?

MikeVic 10-01-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 1848699)
I posted this in an older thread but thought it might get more attention here.

Which QB would you rather own from now till the end of the season, David Garrard or Matt Schaub? My starter is Philip Rivers and I have Garrard as my backup.


Garrard I don't think can ever get a crazy game. But Schaub hasn't really done anything either. I'd probably just stick with what you have.

jeheinz72 10-01-2008 01:41 PM

I'm facing the same Portis/Turner dilemma and I also went with Turner.

Ragone 10-01-2008 01:56 PM

Which wr would be the better choice to trade for..

Andre Johnson or Randy Moss?

Travis 10-01-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragone (Post 1848747)
Which wr would be the better choice to trade for..

Andre Johnson or Randy Moss?


Keeper league I'd go Johnson for sure, in a single season league it'd depend on what you'd have to give up to get either, but with Houston's schedule easing up going forward I'd still be inclined to go after Johnson (and his asking price may not be quite as steep, but that's all dependent on the owners).

Ragone 10-01-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis (Post 1848761)
Keeper league I'd go Johnson for sure, in a single season league it'd depend on what you'd have to give up to get either, but with Houston's schedule easing up going forward I'd still be inclined to go after Johnson (and his asking price may not be quite as steep, but that's all dependent on the owners).


Well, this is basically the offers he's made me

Micheal Turner Or Steve Slaton/Santonio Holmes for Andre Johnson or Randy Moss/Edgerrin James

I have a embarassment of riches at rb.. Micheal Turner/Chris Johnson/Steve Slaton/Mjd/Ryan Grant

I'm honestly leaning towards turner just because their schedule gets kinda crappy and how long before teams load up on the line of scrimmage against atlanta?

MikeVic 10-01-2008 07:23 PM

Would you do this trade (non PPR):

Selvin Young and DeSean Jackson for Le'Ron McClain and Marvin Harrison.

I have Young/Jackson. I also have Wayne and Addai... I'd say based on the fact that I have Wayne and Addai, this is a no? I could try for Randy Moss or Hank Baskett instead...

MikeVic 10-02-2008 08:46 AM

No opinions? :) My other RBs (other than the ones listed) are Chris Johnson and Fred Taylor. At WR I also have Eddie Royal and Santonio Holmes.

Apathetic Lurker 10-02-2008 10:07 AM

Anderson, Derek CLE QB
Edwards, Trent BUF QB
Losman, J.P. BUF QB
Benson, Cedric CIN RB
Dunn, Warrick TBB RB
Hester, Jacob SDC RB (R)
Johnson, Rudi DET RB
Rhodes, Dominic IND RB
Smith, Kolby KCC RB
Williams, Ricky MIA RB
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Hester, Devin CHI WR
Hurd, Sam DAL WR
Jenkins, Michael ATL WR
Jones, Matt JAC WR
Moss, Santana WAS WR
Parrish, Roscoe BUF WR
Urban, Jerheme ARI WR
Baker, Chris NYJ TE
Boss, Kevin NYG TE
McMichael, Randy STL TE
Miller, Billy NOS TE
Folk, Nick DAL PK
Janikowski, Sebastian OAK PK
Scobee, Josh JAC PK
Avril, Cliff DET DE (R)
Denney, Ryan BUF DE
Ellis, Shaun NYJ DE
Kirschke, Travis PIT DE
Merling, Phillip MIA DE (R)
White, Greg TBB DE
Bailey, Boss DEN LB (P)
Dansby, Karlos ARI LB
Diles, Zach HOU LB
Fowler, Ryan TEN LB
Johnson, Jarret BAL LB
Poppinga, Brady GBP LB
Posluszny, Paul BUF LB
Rivers, Keith CIN LB (R)
Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB
Jones, Adam DAL CB
Woodson, Charles GBP CB
Youboty, Ashton BUF CB
Brown, Mike CHI S
Phillips, Jermaine TBB S
45 Total Players
Injured Reserve
Smith, Robaire CLE DE (I)
Brown, C.C. HOU S (I)
2 Total Players
Taxi Squad
Woodson, Andre' FA QB (R)
Hillis, Peyton DEN RB (R)
Burton, Keenan STL WR (R)
Gholston, Vernon NYJ LB (R)

Ok who would you start from this mess..1 qb, 1-2 rb,3-4 wr, 1-2 te, 1pk, 3-4 dl, 3-4 lb, 3-4 db my strength is LBs

Racer 10-02-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1849419)
Boldin being up in the air has muddled my WR situation.

My 3 (all set to start):
Muhsin Muhammed
Bobby Engram
Roddy White

Do I drop Engram for Antonio Bryant? I could also start a TE instead, and Sheffler, Cooley, and Heath Miller are available.

6 for TD, .5 PPR


I wouldn't drop Engram for Antonio Bryant since it's PPR.

Racer 10-02-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker (Post 1849485)
Anderson, Derek CLE QB
Ok who would you start from this mess..1 qb, 1-2 rb,3-4 wr, 1-2 te, 1pk, 3-4 dl, 3-4 lb, 3-4 db my strength is LBs


Trent Edwards, Ricky Williams, Rudi Johnson, Matt Jones, Santana Moss, Roscoe Parrish, and Chris Baker.

I'm not in any IDP leagues so I can't really offer any sort of opinion on that.

Racer 10-02-2008 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1848975)
Would you do this trade (non PPR):

Selvin Young and DeSean Jackson for Le'Ron McClain and Marvin Harrison.

I have Young/Jackson. I also have Wayne and Addai... I'd say based on the fact that I have Wayne and Addai, this is a no? I could try for Randy Moss or Hank Baskett instead...


I like DeSean Jackson the best out of the guys involved in the trade so I personally wouldn't do the trade because I feel that Selving Young and Le'Ron McClain are mediocre starters at best. I would not try to get Hank Baskett.

Racer 10-02-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 1848699)
I posted this in an older thread but thought it might get more attention here.

Which QB would you rather own from now till the end of the season, David Garrard or Matt Schaub? My starter is Philip Rivers and I have Garrard as my backup.


If you haven't seen both of them play, I would go with which ever guy you ranked higher pre-season because so far neither one has separated themselves from the other from a fantasy stand point.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TLK (Post 1848705)
Any thoughts on Santana Moss/Jason Campbell for Philip Rivers/Dwayne Bowe?


I think the difference between Rivers and Campbell is greater then the difference between Moss and Bowe so I like the Rivers/Bowe side better.

AlexB 10-04-2008 08:31 AM

I have a week of tough matchups this week, what do people reckon:

The league scores pretty much eveything: yards, 1st downs, receptions, big plays, scores obviously, bonuses for 100yds+ rush/rec, big negatives for QB sacks (lose 1 point for a sack, which is the same as a passing TD - I really don't like this rule, but that's another story)

QB: Carson Plamer, Trent Edwards
RB: Ryan Grant, Chris Johnson, LenDale White, Willie Parker(out), LeRon McClain
WR: Anquan Boldin (out), Hines Ward, Santana Moss, Matt Jones, Eddie Royal, Wes Welker

I can play 2 RB + 3 WR or 1 RB and 4 WR - normally I'd go for the 2 RB but I don't like my BAL/TEN guys playing against each others defenses, and Fast Willie is out...

So I'm thinking Trent Edwards at QB as Palmer gets sacked too much at them moment, and is up against Ware et al
Ryan Grant (must be due a game soon!)
Welker, Royal, Moss and Ward

The alternative is maybe to swap Ward (I don't like Pittburghs passing game at the moment) for Matt Jones, who is solid with points for 1st downs, or one of the BAL/TEN RB's.

Thoughts?

Suburban Rhythm 10-04-2008 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1849419)
Boldin being up in the air has muddled my WR situation.

My 3 (all set to start):
Muhsin Muhammed
Bobby Engram
Roddy White

Do I drop Engram for Antonio Bryant? I could also start a TE instead, and Sheffler, Cooley, and Heath Miller are available.

6 for TD, .5 PPR


You are already starting one of those TE's I assume, and can start another as a flex?

It would be hard to bench White who is the best of those 3 WR, but I don't know if ATL will need to throw very often vs. GB. Any of those 3 TE's might see more chances than him.

Maybe it's my black and gold glasses, but Miller is intriguing. A team down to it's 3rd RB and a QB who gets hit alot taking deep drops vs. a team missing 2 guys in their secondary (Florence and Reggie Nelson).

Suburban Rhythm 10-04-2008 08:58 AM

I can start 4 of the following-

M Lynch
A Boldin
S Holmes
C Chambers
Ronnie Brown
B Berrian
S Rice
Bryant Johnson

Lynch is a given. Boldin is out.

Holmes and Chambers are pretty close to must start.

I have Ronnie Brown in there now in the final spot. Berrian being questionable made that easier, but is that the right start, vs. SD?

Also, not much of a decision, but Fasano vs Bo Scaife at TE. It's an odd numbered week, so Fasano should be good.

samifan24 10-04-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 1851430)
I can start 4 of the following-

M Lynch
A Boldin
S Holmes
C Chambers
Ronnie Brown
B Berrian
S Rice
Bryant Johnson



I'd start Lynch, Holmes, Brown and Chambers. If you had one more open spot, I'd say start Johnson.

TazFTW 10-04-2008 06:54 PM

Who to start?

Rivers @ Miami
Manning @ Houston

I also have Addai and Vincent Jackson on my team.

PurdueBrad 10-04-2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW (Post 1851643)
Who to start?

Rivers @ Miami
Manning @ Houston

I also have Addai and Vincent Jackson on my team.


I would go Manning vs. Houston. They should dominate but they'll pass OR if Houston hangs with them, it could turn into a shoot-out. I think that the Chargers will try and grind it out in Miami.

henry296 10-04-2008 09:02 PM

Trent Edwards, Carson Palmer or Jon Kitna... remarkably CBS projects Kitna with the best numbers.

MikeVic 10-04-2008 10:01 PM

I thought Palmer might not even play?

stevew 10-05-2008 12:37 AM

Addai/Gore/Slaton/Bush-Pick 2 RB and 1 flex

I think Bush is the odd man out here for me this week. I do have a hard time trusting Slaton, even with Indy's shitty run defense.

WR-Jennings, Megatron, Hines Ward, Desean Jackson-Pick 2(or 3 and bench Slaton/Bush)

I'm probably going Jennings and Megatron, although I'd be interested in any kind of feedback.

McNabb's an obvious play this week, over Ben or O'Sullivan I would think?

stevew 10-05-2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker (Post 1849485)
*snip*

Ok who would you start from this mess..1 qb, 1-2 rb,3-4 wr, 1-2 te, 1pk, 3-4 dl, 3-4 lb, 3-4 db my strength is LBs


I really wish I could find people this hardcore to play with in real life.
How many keepers, etc?

MikeVic 10-05-2008 01:31 AM

Who the hell is Megatron?

Neuqua 10-05-2008 03:03 AM

Calvin Johnson.

One of my more favorite nicknames out there btw.

rowech 10-05-2008 06:23 AM

I'm torn on a decision for the first time all season. I have to start one of the following...

Fred Taylor home against Pittsburgh
Le'Ron McClain home against Tennesssee
Patrick Crayton home against Cincinnati

I'm leaning towards McClain right now but I'm also debating Crayton. I think Taylor is going to have a rough day. Thoughts?

rowech 10-05-2008 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 1851715)
Trent Edwards, Carson Palmer or Jon Kitna... remarkably CBS projects Kitna with the best numbers.


I'd probably go with Edwards. Kitna gets good projection because they're going to get killed so they'll be passing all the time.

rowech 10-05-2008 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW (Post 1851643)
Who to start?

Rivers @ Miami
Manning @ Houston

I also have Addai and Vincent Jackson on my team.


Gotta go Manning

Passacaglia 10-05-2008 07:37 AM

Anyone know if Aaron Rodgers is starting?

stevew 10-05-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1851840)
Who the hell is Megatron?


Easier than typing out Calvin Johnson every time. There's at least a few C Johnsons.

Racer 10-05-2008 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1851885)
Anyone know if Aaron Rodgers is starting?


I read the Packers are going to make a decision on whether or not Rodgers will start about 90 minutes before kickoff.

PurdueBrad 10-05-2008 10:23 AM

Hey guys, really need some opinions on this one:

We are PPR and we do receive points for return yards. I've got Fitzgerald, Bowe, Reggie Brown (Philly), Muhammad, and Steve Breaston available for today.

I figure Fitzy and Bowe are must starts, that leaves me choosing one of Brown, Muhammad or Breaston (starting for Boldin). Do I corner the Arizona market or play Muhsin?

Passacaglia 10-05-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1851908)
I read the Packers are going to make a decision on whether or not Rodgers will start about 90 minutes before kickoff.


Looks like Rodgers is starting.

MikeVic 10-05-2008 10:55 AM

No idea who Breaston is... I'd just say Muhammad.

molson 10-05-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 1851715)
Trent Edwards, Carson Palmer or Jon Kitna... remarkably CBS projects Kitna with the best numbers.


It depends what your team's TD/INT pt. ratio. If it doesn't penalize INTs too much, I'd go with Kitna.

bigmike75 10-05-2008 11:24 AM

Okay who do you choose between...

Antonio Bryant, Mushin Muhammad and Steve Breaston?

rowech 10-05-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmike75 (Post 1851988)
Okay who do you choose between...

Antonio Bryant, Mushin Muhammad and Steve Breaston?


Breaston

JonInMiddleGA 10-05-2008 11:57 AM

Schaub not starting for Houston (viral infection).


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