Cowboys trade for DET Roy Williams
 

Not confirmed on ESPN yet, but

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...ms-to-cowboys/

Praise jesus!

SWEET-

He was on waivers on my fantasy league and I picked him up. Hopefully he's a better WR with Tony Simpson passing to him.

Ummmm....a first rounder? Really?

Someone reported that it was two second round picks.

A conditional 1st rounder from what I've seen.

Steep, but better.

a 1st, 3rd and 6th is the deal on nfl.com

Can he play corner? Because Pac-man is suspended for at least four games.

haha... no doubt who won this one.

BTW, that suspension makes Pac-man's trade a little sweeter for Dallas. They were going to have to give up a 6th rounder next year, but now they gain a fifth rounder from the Titans.

He is the only one reporting that. Cowboy fans better pray that's wrong.

Hrmmm...

I really liked Roy Williams. I think he's a good player. He's inconsistent at times and a bit injury prone, but he's capable of making great plays. I don't consider him a prima donna or cancer in the locker room or anything like that. He's always seemed like a solid dude. He's definitely no T.O.

That said, the Lions are awful. They aren't doing anything this year. Kitna was just put on IR. They weren't going to do anything this year and they couldn't afford to franchise Roy Williams or even pay him market value. That would just be too much money tied up in the WR position given Calvin Johnson's contract.

As a result of the trade, the Lions have a few more picks to help begin to rebuild (again). Hopefully they will hire someone who can actually judge talent and make use of these additional draft picks. Under the old regime, I would have no faith.

This also makes the season a little more interesting now. I will be rooting (more so than normal) for the Cowboys to lose. I finally have an incentive, outside of fantasy football, to watch some NFL games.

So, over the next several weeks, I will be rooting for these teams in order:

Rams
Bucaneers
G-Men
Redskins
49ers
Seahawks
Steelers
G-Men
Ravens
Eagles

GO THOSE TEAMS!!

Poor Gonzalez. Chiefs wanted how many picks for him?

Alright, reading it from the Dallas paper now.

Lions: Roy Williams, and a 2009 7th Rounder

Cowboys: 1st, 3rd, and 6th for 2009

Wow. I don't think Matt Millen would have made this deal......for the Cowboys. :)

That's nowhere near as bad as the two #1s they gave up a few years back to get Joey Galloway.

Yeah, that's painful. I can only think of maybe two players worth two first round picks.

Given the hit rate of 1st round picks, I'm not sure its such a bad deal. I think draft picks tend to be overvalued in the NFL, unless your success rate is high enough to justify them (ie, a 1st for the Pats or the Giants is worth more than one for the .... Lions). :D

I think the Lions just want to see what it's like drafting from the bottom of the 1st round for once.

It depends. Most of the players worth 2-#1s would be essentially priceless and would never be traded anyways.

God, him and TO on the same team? After seeing Roy act the total bitch vs the Bears a couple weeks ago, this should be amusing.

And Dallas overpaid. A. Lot.

So what's going on his jersey?

ORoy Williams and the other one is going to be DRoy Williams?

Dallas can franchise him after the season, or sign him to a new deal. I think they will probably be able to get a first out of him if they franchise + trade.

Boldin and Williams will be the top two available WR's this offseason.

Most likely Dallas will rent him for the rest of the season for a 6th, and trade him for a mid 20s #1, which will likely be around a 3rd in value better than their first.

And Dallas still has another 3rd I believe, as they snagged the Browns' one.

You know, with Roy Williams gone this does put the Lions in a perfect position to draft another WR.

They have a need...

Actually they changed it so now you don't have to have initials. Not sure if it was to avoid a T Brady #12 jersey from being made(because they added kyle brady), although that seemed like a logical explanation.

I want to see T.O. get pissed at Roy Williams getting the ball 5+ times per game. That's my hope.

Ha... my head just exploded with that thought...

Any other Lions fan now hitting every draft site there is? Anyone got a really good one?

It's great to be a Lions and Wolverines fan right now...

Go Wings!

You really think they'll get a first from someone next year? It'll be a genius move if they do, but my guess is they'll resign him.

The Cowboys have decent #2 and #3 receivers with Crayton and Austin. I'm surprised they made this move and gave up a #1 and #3 draft choice. Plus, they are going to have to pay him big money to keep him. That could lead to a salary cap crunch.

thats perfect logic...if the nfl operated like a fof mp league

With the money they gave TO, it will be a lot of cabbage tied up in one position. But hey, they won't have to pay a couple of draft picks next year. :D

And Witten.

This of course is assuming there will be a salary cap.

We're just ahead of the trend in FOFMP. Look at all the player for pick trades this offseason. Quite a few more than I can ever remember seeing in the past.

Javon Walker was traded for the #37 pick a few years back, at worst i'd say they gat that much for Williams if they elect to flip him. And then it becomes more of a 3rd, 6th, and 10 pick downgrade on their #1 this year.

And even less if it gets them far in the playoffs. Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since like 96 I believe.

The path to guaranteed winning it all is a killer qb and two stud wr. Cowboys are set.

Errr..wait...I'm thinking of FOF.

They basicly traded 3 picks next year when they already have a WR who bitches about not getting the ball enough. I love it..

like i said, your logic is fine...its just never been done like that in the nfl.

im desperately trying to wrack my brain, to come up with the last player who a team "flipped" (acquired then turned for a profit)

all other teams would see is, hmm, in the last 10 games hes now played for 3 teams. awesome.

Rumor is that Jerry is already working on signing him to a longer deal. We shall see.

On the overpaying...the 1st hurts, but if he helps get the cowboys over the hump they seem to have run into, it will be worth it. I'm not sure how teams will be able to cover him, witten and owens, so somebody will benefit.

Cowboys are loaded with talent. Missing a first rounder is not going to kill them.

Link

Supposedly agreed to a 5 year deal already.

Jerry said he signed Williams to a 5 year deal. Not sure what the terms were.

Now all Dallas needs are 9 defensive players, and this deal makes sense for them.

They really did need a solid #2 WR, and Williams will fit that bill. It could be like Harrison/Wayne in Indy.

2 bad things about the trade:

1. It makes the Cowboys better. That, in itself, sucks.
b. It'll take away passes from Crayton and carries from Barber and Jones, who I have on various fantasy teams.

Again, Roy in Dallas makes sense, but the teams problem isn't scoring, it's stopping people from scoring.

Great trade. Much more than I thought Detroit would get for him.

I agree. My bet is that there was a bit of a bidding war between Dallas & Philly.

So far, so good P.M.

The more I think about it, the more I like the trade for Dallas. They get a quality, proven, young receiver and they give up practically nothing when you take a look at the salary cap situation.

Instead of paying money for unproven rookies, they can spend that money on free agents who will certainly test the market in an uncapped year. Dallas can bring in the money compared to other teams. At the very least, if it's there's still a salary cap in a couple years, they go for broke this year and next trying to win a Super Bowl.

Well played Detroit. I wonder what they'd have got with Millen negotiating.

The raiders have won at least a couple playoff games since Dallas has. That's hilarious

Not sure how much Dallas would benefit from a salary cap removal (at least in 2010). All of these conditions kick in if 2010 is not capped:

• The top eight playoff finishers from the previous season would be allowed to sign free agents only at the rate at which they lose them.
• Players would need six NFL seasons to be eligible for free agency, rather than four.
• Each team would be allowed to restrict two eligible free agents with "franchise" or "transition" player tags, rather than one.