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leaves me wondering...

Take a look at this:

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Front Office Football 2007

Team Cap Room and Needs List

 

  Team            Cap Room Cntr    Draft Picks    Big Need  2nd Need  3rd Need  

Chicago           $43,330,000    51   $0          Start ILB Start QB  Start G     

Tampa Bay         $44,010,000    50   $0          Start ILB Start QB  Resrv OLB   

New York G        $22,700,000    50   $0          Start OLB Start ILB Start DT    

**New England     $11,940,000    50   $0          Start DT  Start CB  Resrv RB    

Dallas            $21,650,000    49   $0          Start WR  Start DT  Resrv ILB   

St. Louis         $44,370,000    48   $0          Start ILB Start T   Start C     

San Francisco     $54,000,000    47   $0          Start QB  Start RB  Start WR    

Seattle           $39,850,000    47   $0          Start T   Start RB  Start WR    

Tennessee         $38,380,000    47   $0          Start DE  Start ILB Start WR    

Houston           $16,150,000    47   $0          Start RB  Start T   Start QB    

Cleveland         $28,230,000    46   $0          Start RB  Start DE  Start DT    

Green Bay         $23,880,000    45   $0          Start ILB Start DE  Start S     

Miami             $43,930,000    44   $0          Start DT  Start WR  Start G     

Philadelphia      $42,720,000    44   $0          Start QB  Start ILB Start T     

Buffalo           $40,720,000    44   $0          Start C   Start ILB Start G     

Baltimore         $29,610,000    44   $0          Start CB  Start QB  Start WR    

Denver            $16,900,000    44   $0          Start ILB Start CB  Start TE    

Kansas City       $57,680,000    43   $0          Start ILB Start RB  Start QB    

Atlanta           $42,510,000    43   $0          Start FB  Start ILB Start WR    

Cincinnati        $32,030,000    43   $0          Start ILB Start DE  Start DT    

Carolina          $27,330,000    43   $0          Start ILB Start T   Start WR    

New Orleans       $26,040,000    43   $0          Start T   Start S   Start ILB   

Washington        $44,020,000    41   $0          Start ILB Start G   Start RB    

Detroit           $39,810,000    41   $0          Start CB  Start QB  Start ILB   

Indianapolis      $27,600,000    41   $0          Start ILB Start G   Start C     

New York J        $42,020,000    40   $0          Start T   Start WR  Start DE    

Pittsburgh        $15,920,000    40   $0          Start DE  Start DT  Start G     

Jacksonville      $42,560,000    39   $0          Start ILB Start WR  Start QB    

Arizona           $15,710,000    39   $0          Start ILB Start OLB Start TE    

Minnesota         $16,740,000    38   $0          Start QB  Start ILB Start TE    

Oakland           $14,930,000    29   $0          Start ILB Start WR  Start DE    

San Diego         $21,700,000    20   $0          Start DT  Start RB  Start ILB

This is from right after the draft. San Diego has only 20 players under contract. That's a bit ridiculous. Same goes for Oakland with only 29, but hey, it's the Raiders so I figured it was kind normal. ;)

Is that a regular occurence in single player games?

FM

Is this a product of the patch?

no clue, maybe it's always been that way and I just noticed.

It's a new career started post patch. Anybody knows if it's always been that way.

fwiw, San Diego loaded their roster with a ton of undrafted rookies after the draft, enough to bring them to 54 players.

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San Diego Chargers Roster, Scout Overview

   

  Player                #   Pos   Start Exp  Current Estimate  Future Estimate Cntrct 

McNeill, Marcus         73  LT    LT    6    87                87                3 yrs

Gates, Antonio          85  TE    TE    9    79                79                2 yrs

Cromartie, Antonio      31  RCB   RCB   6    77                77                3 yrs

Merriman, Shawne        56  SLB   SLB   7    77                77                4 yrs

Hardwick, Nick          61  C     C     8    77                77                4 yrs

Scifres, Mike           5   P           9    74                74                2 yrs

Castillo, Luis          93  LDE   LDE   7    71                71                4 yrs

Jackson, Vincent        83  FL    FL    7    69                69                5 yrs

Rivers, Philip          17  QB    QB    8    68                68                3 yrs

Jammer, Quentin         23  LCB   LCB   10   61                61                2 yrs

Dielman, Kris           68  RG    RG    9    60                60                2 yrs

Starks, Jay             74  RDE   RDE   3    57                57                3 yrs

Bronson, Shawn          24  SS    SS    1    56                80                4 yrs

Cason, Antoine          20  RCB         4    54                54                2 yrs

Brennan, Nolan          39  FS    FS    3    47                47                2 yrs

Wilkerson, Ben          66  LG    LG    6    42                42                1 yr.

$$Arnold, Tyrell        91  NT          2    42                48                3 yrs

Campbell, Lonnie        2   QB          3    38                54                2 yrs

Pariso, Donald          44  RB    RB    2    38                42                3 yrs

Johnstone, Steven       58  SLB         4    38                46                1 yr.

Rafter, Charles         82  TE          2    38                51                3 yrs

Stockton, Lester        16  K           1    37                46                1 yr.

Gerhart, Louie          13  K           1    36                58                1 yr.

Cook, Ryan              63  RT          6    35                35                1 yr.

Clark, Corey            69  RT    RT    4    34                42                1 yr.

Hopkins, Scott          46  FS          3    33                33                1 yr.

Oliver, Jesse           45  FB    FB    1    31                43                3 yrs

Hedgecock, Madison      30  FB          7    30                30                1 yr.

Hoover, Timothy         96  NT    NT    2    30                43                3 yrs

McConnell, Frankie      53  SILB  SILB  1    28                42                4 yrs

Dillon, Alonzo          32  RB          1    27                41                1 yr.

Coleman, Max            51  C           1    27                39                1 yr.

Schlafly, Austin        62  LG          1    26                40                1 yr.

Lanza, Rusty            98  NT          1    26                29                1 yr.

Watson, Marvin          40  RB          1    25                33                1 yr.

Thompson, Burt          52  WILB        4    24                42                1 yr.

##Brelsford, Sean       59  SILB        1    24                38                1 yr.

Burkett, Donnell        86  TE          1    24                31                1 yr.

Howard, Tito            89  SE          1    24                37                1 yr.

##Tornberg, Neil        57  SLB         2    23                40                2 yrs

Gardner, Peter          81  SE    SE    1    22                32                1 yr.

Mussatti, Toby          84  FL          1    22                35                1 yr.

Parker, Norm            88  FL          1    22                27                1 yr.

Strong, Alex            19  QB          1    21                34                1 yr.

Beito, Roderick         21  RCB         1    21                37                3 yrs

Carrano, Jerald         35  RCB         1    21                44                1 yr.

##Burroughs, Brad       41  FS          1    21                31                1 yr.

Guerrieri, Bart         94  WILB  WILB  1    21                32                1 yr.

Bates, Isaac            95  RDE         1    20                40                3 yrs

##Crownhart, Vincent    50  C           1    19                48                1 yr.

Gunn, Butch             55  WLB   WLB   4    19                37                1 yr.

##Gonzalez, Randy       67  RT          1    19                44                3 yrs

##Burgess, Kurt         97  WLB         1    19                29                3 yrs

##Murphy, Deron         79  RDE         1    12                40                3 yrs

Just find it kind of odd...
FM

Yes, it's always been this way.

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar (Post 1864730)

Yes, it's always been this way.

I haven't played in awhile, but I don't remember it being that bad.. I'll have to look at my new career after the first year.

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar (Post 1864730)

Yes, it's always been this way.

One of the things I noticed was the sheer amount of open spots various teams had when I started my SP league and this was before the latest patch.

PRetty common pre-patch. I do have one question, though:

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San Diego loaded their roster with a ton of undrafted rookies after the draft

Did you mean immediately after the draft, as in FA2, or at the training camp stage? Pre-patch, it was at training camp when the teams with low numbers filled up. It was very rare for *any* AI teams to go after undrafted rookies in FA2 pre-patch, so I'm wondering if that has changed.

ADDENDUM: Besides punters and kickers.

Double dola:

And to be clear, having only one team at 20 and another at 29 is probably better than the average pre-6.2 situation right after the draft.

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 1864917)

PRetty common pre-patch. I do have one question, though:

Did you mean immediately after the draft, as in FA2, or at the training camp stage? Pre-patch, it was at training camp when the teams with low numbers filled up. It was very rare for *any* AI teams to go after undrafted rookies in FA2 pre-patch, so I'm wondering if that has changed.

I'm seeing plenty of undrafted FAs on lousy teams pre-patch since I haven't actually found the time to play after patching.

I wanted to take over the worst team in my fictional league, but they had so much dead money spent on a few excellent players that there is no way to even pay for draft picks without cutting and piling up even more dead money.

I wonder why Jim G thinks those kind of contracts are a good AI strategy.

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Originally Posted by OldGiants (Post 1864935)

I'm seeing plenty of undrafted FAs on lousy teams pre-patch since I haven't actually found the time to play after patching.

Yes, they got on teams, but I'm commenting on when they get on teams. Pre-patch, the human owner had pretty much all of FA2 to himself with regard to signing rookies. The AI teams that needed to fill up didn't do so until TC.

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 1864917)

the stage from the transaction report states "Pre-Training Camp" for 16 free agents all signed for $350k so I assume not much have changed there.

So it looks like it's normal. Thanks for the info. As I said, I played a tiny bit when last year's patch came out but it's been a long while since I've played the game for any kind of longer career.

FM

/agree

Most undrafted FAs are signed pre-training camp. I think very few are signed in FA2 by the AI...either pre- or post-patch.