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lordscarlet 11-18-2008 06:40 PM

Ender Wiggin Series
 
I had no idea they were working on a sequeal to Ender's Game. Orson Scott Card has released Ender in Exile, which comes after Ender's Game, but before Speaker for the Dead.

Amazon.com: Ender in Exile (Ender): Orson Scott Card: Books

SackAttack 11-18-2008 06:52 PM

Yeah, came out last week.

I'm a little torn. I thought the Bean series was "okay," but it has kind of felt like Card has gone to the Ender well a little too often. Saw Ender in Exile at work the other day, and I'm not sure if I'm actually going to read it or not.

lordscarlet 11-18-2008 06:57 PM

I enjoyed Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow. I enjoyed Speaker for the Dead and Xenocided decidedly less. I think I've also read Shadow of the Hegemon, but the fact that I can't remember if I had should tell you whether that was any good (if I, in fact, did read it).

Schmidty 11-18-2008 07:10 PM

I really need to get around to reading Ender's Game.

JeeberD 11-18-2008 07:21 PM

I'm currently trudging through Xenocide. I flew through Ender's Game and enjoyed Speaker for the Dead, but this one has taken me a while.

So is this book meant to be read between Game and Dead or at the end of the series? Just trying to decide if I should pick it up now or go to Half Price Books and look for Children of the Mind instead...

DaddyTorgo 11-18-2008 07:33 PM

yeah umm...amazon was supposta be sending this to me - oh wait - my fault i took it out of my cart and never put it back in - will hafta pick it up at the bookstore i think

Barkeep49 11-18-2008 07:52 PM

I think Speaker for the Dead is brilliant, but in a completely different way than Ender's Game, which is my all time favorite book. The rest of the Speaker's line is pretty not worth it. I nearly gave up on the Ender's Shadow line (which is a good book, though not for how it reinvents certain aspects of the universe) but it did get better.

Crim 11-18-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1889816)
I really need to get around to reading Ender's Game.


Do it. Immediately.

Crim 11-18-2008 09:11 PM

I agree that Speaker for the Dead is excellent, but really different in every way from the original Ender's Game. Hard for me to pick one favorite all-time book, but Ender's Game would without question be in the running. Top five easily.

Raiders Army 11-18-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1889809)
I enjoyed Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow. I enjoyed Speaker for the Dead and Xenocided decidedly less. I think I've also read Shadow of the Hegemon, but the fact that I can't remember if I had should tell you whether that was any good (if I, in fact, did read it).


Ditto to Ender's Game and Shadow. Other than those two books though, I'm not a big fan.

SFL Cat 11-18-2008 10:20 PM

There are definitely some stories, books and movies that should be left to stand alone.

MJ4H 11-18-2008 10:48 PM

Ender's Game is my #1 favorite book of all-time and it isn't even close.

lordscarlet 11-19-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 1889817)
I'm currently trudging through Xenocide. I flew through Ender's Game and enjoyed Speaker for the Dead, but this one has taken me a while.

So is this book meant to be read between Game and Dead or at the end of the series? Just trying to decide if I should pick it up now or go to Half Price Books and look for Children of the Mind instead...


Not sure. Timeline wise It is between Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, so I would imagine as long as you have read Ender's Game (and perhaps Ender's Shadow) it's probably a good time to read it, but I won't know until I read it for myself.

PackerFanatic 11-19-2008 04:35 PM

I very much enjoyed Ender's Game, but heard the others dragged the story on a little too much. Not sure if I want to subject myself and taint the image of a fantastic book.

Barkeep49 11-19-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic (Post 1890449)
I very much enjoyed Ender's Game, but heard the others dragged the story on a little too much. Not sure if I want to subject myself and taint the image of a fantastic book.

As a librarian, I endorse this message. I think this is admirable restraint and think it's a completely logical and good thing to do.

Groundhog 11-19-2008 07:24 PM

I thought Ender's Game was an OK book, but I was a little underwhelmed given how much praise I've seen heaped on it. I probably read it later in life than a lot of folks I guess (~23 years old or so). I also read it just after I finished OSC's time-travel story about Columbus (Redemption? Can't remember the exact title), which I thought was a MUCH better book.

I did read a few of the Ender's sequels for some reason, but I can't remember the titles or much of the story, just that I didn't particularily enjoy them.

DaddyTorgo 11-24-2008 04:55 PM

are we ever going to see "Hive Queen & the Hegemon" is my question? He seems to have been teasing us with that idea for years now...probably if he's intending to write it he's having trouble with it I guess...

edit: and apparently he doesn't intend to write them.

I guess I can understand not writing "Life of Human" as we sort of get most of that, but I want more nitty-gritty about Peter, and I also want to know wtf was up with the formics more

Barkeep49 11-30-2008 12:24 AM

I'm about 2/3 of the way through Ender in Exile. Thoughts in the spoiler tags, though I won't really be saying anything specific about the plot.

Spoiler

DaddyTorgo 11-30-2008 12:33 AM

astute points in the spoiler-tag BK.


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