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flere-imsaho 12-29-2008 11:16 AM

Least Deserving Head Coach in the Playoffs?
 
...also known as "I can't believe Eric Mangini gets fired while Brad Childress still has a job...." :D

ISiddiqui 12-29-2008 11:18 AM

Norv Turner is close to the top of the list too :D.

Danny 12-29-2008 11:23 AM

Voted turner because the team only won 8 games in the abysmal AFC West

flere-imsaho 12-29-2008 11:23 AM

Actually, after looking at the final standings (to generate the list), I've gone with Turner, though I was tempted by Childress. I still think Childress is an idiot, but Minnesota did win 10 games, and some of those were against good teams.

Turner's taken a playoff team, with good talent, in a crap division, and backed into the playoffs. Sure, I'll look stupid if they win the Super Bowl (since, ostensibly, that's why he was brought in to replace Schottenheimer), but it sure doesn't seem like he's improved them a lot (if at all).

Also, Ken Whisenhunt appears to not have returned from Thanksgiving vacation.

rowech 12-29-2008 11:24 AM

Watching the last minutes of Minnesota's game yesterday confirmed to me that Childress is a moron.

Surtt 12-29-2008 11:36 AM

As a Vikings fan, I hate Childress as much as anyone.
But he did win 7 of the last 9 to make the playoffs and I have give him credit for that.
(Of course, if he wouldn't have cost the team 3 wins earlier he wouldn't have had to.)

Kodos 12-29-2008 12:41 PM

Hard to go with anyone but Norv here.

jbergey22 12-29-2008 12:48 PM

Brad Childress takes this one. One of the most talented defenses and offensive lines and the best running back in the NFL and every game seems to be a chore to win.

Bill Parcels or Bill Belichek would have this same team 14-2 or 13-3.

ISiddiqui 12-29-2008 01:04 PM

Not with Tavaris Jackson / Gus Ferotte!!

Parcells and Belichek may be good, but they aren't that good!

kingfc22 12-29-2008 01:08 PM

Brad Childress easily.

larrymcg421 12-29-2008 01:08 PM

I'm amused that you included all options on here, just in case someone wanted to vote for Sparano, Harbaugh, or Mike Smith.

RendeR 12-29-2008 01:14 PM

While Norv Turner is everyones bitch no matter where he goes or what he does, brad Childres is far less deserving of his playoff spot. Minnesota lacks one player of being the best team in the NFL and that player is a real QB.

I think everyone is ignoring the fact that the Chargers had to win their last 4 straight to even get to .500, its not their fault that the AFC west is the worst division in football and that Denver couldn't be coached, cajoled or paid to play at an NFL level in the second half of the season.

San Diego didn't back into the playoffs, they fought their way in and thats the kind of fire I think could carry them through the playoffs. its 0-0 now and frankly any team with LT in the backfield would scare me shitless.

WSUCougar 12-29-2008 01:21 PM

Turner

But Childress is a dork. And he looks like anything but a football coach. Maybe a professional bowler?

flere-imsaho 12-29-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1911244)
I'm amused that you included all options on here, just in case someone wanted to vote for Sparano, Harbaugh, or Mike Smith.


:D Basically, I thought it would be amusing to see if we had any truly blinkered homers here. :D

LloydLungs 12-29-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar (Post 1911254)
But Childress is a dork. And he looks like anything but a football coach. Maybe a professional bowler?


He definitely looks less like a Brad than any other Brad in history.

Karlifornia 12-29-2008 02:06 PM

Norv..I was stunned to peruse the options and see that San Diego had made the playoffs.

mckerney 12-29-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1911236)
Not with Tavaris Jackson / Gus Ferotte!!

Parcells and Belichek may be good, but they aren't that good!


If Parcells or Belichick were in charge they won't be dumb enough to think they'd be fine going into a season with Jackson and Frerrote.

ISiddiqui 12-29-2008 02:16 PM

Childress ain't the GM though.

mckerney 12-29-2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1911300)
Childress ain't the GM though.


That's one of the problems with Minnesota, there is no GM. When they Wilfs bought the team they decided that instead of a GM, there would be a collection of 3 people ("Triangle of Authority") in charge for roster decisions; the coach, player personnel director, and their cap guy Rob Brzezinski as vice president of operations. Childress was the guy who wanted Jackson, and when Childress was asked in the offseason if they should go after another QB to compete for the starting job, he told them no.

He may not be the GM, but he's still the one responsible for the QBs on the roster.

RainMaker 12-29-2008 03:40 PM

Brad Childress. They were real close to not making the playoffs. They by far have a lot more talent than anyone in that division and probably the conference. 10-6 in the NFC North is not impressive.

kcchief19 12-29-2008 03:55 PM

This should be the Norv Turner Memorial Trophy. The Chargers were at a minimum a 10-6 team that Norv made 8-8. But I'm not sure why Brad Childress has a job, other than he made the playoffs without a QB. But with the talent they have on defense, that team should be better than they are. I have yet see anything out of him that suggests he's anything other than a run-of-the-mill coach.

Wisenhunt gets honorable mention but somebody had to win the West and his team is exactly who we thought they were, to quote their former coach.

Maple Leafs 12-29-2008 04:04 PM

Turner is awful and no way a team with that much talent should be 8-8... but Childress is just terrible.

RedKingGold 12-29-2008 06:35 PM

You could make an argument for Reid. The Eagles are talented enough to have finished 11-5 or 12-4 had the playcalling been more balanced throughout the whole season.

SteveMax58 12-29-2008 06:50 PM

Yeah, I voted Wisenhunt before realizing San Diego won 8 games in the AFC West.

Reid does get an honorable mention as despite him being the best option for Philly in the foreseeable future, he really is a stubborn idiot sometimes. Philly should have won 11+ games this year with any semblance of a commitment to running.

Galaxy 12-29-2008 07:21 PM

Don't forget the Chargers got screwed out of a win early in the season in Denver.

GrantDawg 12-30-2008 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LloydLungs (Post 1911279)
He definitely looks less like a Brad than any other Brad in history.



Hey Brad!

Lathum 12-30-2008 07:45 AM

I want an explination from lungs...


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