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samifan24 01-18-2009 09:47 PM

The Super Bowl XLIII Thread
 
So, now that we know the teams involved, who do you think will win Super Bowl XLIII?

Danny 01-18-2009 09:49 PM

Round 1 I voted Indy
Round 2 I voted Carolina
Round 3 I voted Philly

Round 4 I voted Pitt

Go Cardinals!

Tasan 01-18-2009 09:56 PM

Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh

Danny 01-18-2009 09:57 PM

It's already decided. I voted Pitt meaning Arizona will win. Bet and bet big on this game, it's in the bag.

Thomkal 01-18-2009 10:05 PM

And I didn't even have to send you a bribe this time Danny! The Cards will be the underdog again and use that to their benefit.

Danny 01-18-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1925889)
And I didn't even have to send you a bribe this time Danny! The Cards will be the underdog again and use that to their benefit.


With the way the teams played today, I could see this game going either way. Even though most of the players have never been there, having Warner as the leader of the team will continue to help them immensely.

RedKingGold 01-18-2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan (Post 1925883)
Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh


Yup.

Groundhog 01-18-2009 10:23 PM

I'll be cheering for Arizona, but I think the Steelers will win.

boberot 01-18-2009 10:23 PM

Arizona.

Somebody's got to believe in them at some point.
They'll have the best QB and best WR in the game, if nothing else, and a giant chip on their shoulder.

Lathum 01-18-2009 10:28 PM

WTF , this thread has been MY job

Greyroofoo 01-18-2009 10:30 PM

Let's see if Kurt Warner can with another former Colts running back.

JPhillips 01-18-2009 10:39 PM

I just don't think Pittsburgh can be beaten by a team as one dimensional as the Cards. I'm also very interested in how the blow up between the OC and Boldin plays out over the coming two weeks.

Danny 01-18-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1925921)
I just don't think Pittsburgh can be beaten by a team as one dimensional as the Cards. I'm also very interested in how the blow up between the OC and Boldin plays out over the coming two weeks.


They've out rushed every team they have played in the postseason

henry296 01-18-2009 10:41 PM

I think the week off will help the Steelers. Ward should be healthy and the Cards may lose a little of their momentum.

Izulde 01-18-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan (Post 1925883)
Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh


This.

RedKingGold 01-18-2009 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1925921)
I just don't think Pittsburgh can be beaten by a team as one dimensional as the Cards. I'm also very interested in how the blow up between the OC and Boldin plays out over the coming two weeks.


Yeah, I really don't think we can say the Cards are one-dimensional any more after they rushed very well over three pretty good defenses.

If anything, I wonder if focusing on the pass and not rushing James or Hightower that much during the regular season helped keep both running backs (and their offensive line) relatively fresh for this Super Bowl run.

digamma 01-19-2009 12:13 AM

I didn't see the Giants listed as a choice.

DanGarion 01-19-2009 12:28 AM

Let's go Matt Leinart!

Lathum 01-19-2009 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma (Post 1925959)
I didn't see the Giants listed as a choice.


suck it

kingnebwsu 01-19-2009 02:16 AM

Seriously, was that Arizona/Philly game awesome or what? That was the most enjoyable NFL game I've watched this year. I knew I'd be cheering for the NFC team over the AFC team, as I'd like to see someone new win it all. Therefore, go Cardinals! :)

Taur 01-19-2009 03:11 AM

I can't believe the opening line is only Pittsburgh (-5).


I thought it would be much bigger. I was thinking more around 10pts.

JPhillips 01-19-2009 07:34 AM

Let's look at the Cardinals rushing.

Against the Eagles they managed 102 yds at a 3.5 avg

Against the Panthers they managed 145 yds at a 3.4 avg

Against the Falcons they managed 86 yds at a 3.1 avg

They're maybe sticking to the rush better than in the regular season, but their average per rush throughout the playoffs is poor.

remper 01-19-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1925993)
Let's look at the Steelers rushing.

Against the Chargers they managed 165 yds on 42 carries at a 3.9 avg

Against the Ravens they managed 52 yds on 28 carries at a 1.9 avg



Edited that for the Steelers stats. So they haven't exactly lit people up on the ground either.

RedKingGold 01-19-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1925993)
Let's look at the Cardinals rushing.

Against the Eagles they managed 102 yds at a 3.5 avg

Against the Panthers they managed 145 yds at a 3.4 avg

Against the Falcons they managed 86 yds at a 3.1 avg

They're maybe sticking to the rush better than in the regular season, but their average per rush throughout the playoffs is poor.


Yards per carry is a relatively poor statistic for measuring rushing effectiveness over the entire game.

This is something that FOF mirrors pretty well. Just b/c a team has a lower rushing average does not mean that the running game was in-effective because the offense goes into a clock-killing mode.

For example, look at that Panthers game. Because the Cards were up by such a wide margin early in the game, its common sense that the offense would go into a conservative clock-killing mode which the defense would read and stuff the run.

If you watched the Eagles game, Arizona ran very effectively in the first half and went into that conservative mode in the second.

kingfc22 01-19-2009 11:46 AM

Go Cards

MikeVic 01-19-2009 11:49 AM

Go Steelers!

Eaglesfan27 01-19-2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taur (Post 1925984)
I can't believe the opening line is only Pittsburgh (-5).


I thought it would be much bigger. I was thinking more around 10pts.


I'm not surprised. I picked Pittsburgh to win, although I hope Arizona wins. However, I expect this to be a close game as Arizona has shown they can score on anyone as long as Fitzgerald remains healthy.

JPhillips 01-19-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 1926160)
Yards per carry is a relatively poor statistic for measuring rushing effectiveness over the entire game.

This is something that FOF mirrors pretty well. Just b/c a team has a lower rushing average does not mean that the running game was in-effective because the offense goes into a clock-killing mode.

For example, look at that Panthers game. Because the Cards were up by such a wide margin early in the game, its common sense that the offense would go into a conservative clock-killing mode which the defense would read and stuff the run.

If you watched the Eagles game, Arizona ran very effectively in the first half and went into that conservative mode in the second.


I guess it depends on your definition of very effective. They had three big runs(16, 12, 22), two 4 or five yard runs and 7 runs of three yards or less in the first half. They averaged a bit over five yds. per carry, but I don't think they can break the long run as easily against the Steelers.

I'm no Steelers fan, and I'm pulling for the Cards, but I don't think their offense has enough balance to beat the Steelers. When the Steelers can play one-dimensional they're damn near immovable.

Draft Dodger 01-19-2009 12:32 PM

all I know is that I'm going and now that the Ravens have been eliminated, I no longer have to be afraid of getting into the wrong limo.

MIJB#19 01-19-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan (Post 1925883)
Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh

That.

RedKingGold 01-19-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1926192)
I guess it depends on your definition of very effective. They had three big runs(16, 12, 22), two 4 or five yard runs and 7 runs of three yards or less in the first half. They averaged a bit over five yds. per carry, but I don't think they can break the long run as easily against the Steelers.

I'm no Steelers fan, and I'm pulling for the Cards, but I don't think their offense has enough balance to beat the Steelers. When the Steelers can play one-dimensional they're damn near immovable.


I'm not sure the Steelers exactly can pull off the big run either.

Pittsburgh has had only one 45+ yard rush in the last two seasons (thank you Najeh Davenport).

DaddyTorgo 01-19-2009 01:04 PM

my boss is going.

dude gets to go every year.

unfair *temper tantrum*

MrBug708 01-19-2009 02:07 PM

Grimm and Wisenhunt have to have some sort of knowledge of the Steelers inter workings...?

MikeVic 01-19-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1926313)
Grimm and Wisenhunt have to have some sort of knowledge of the Steelers inter workings...?


As the Steelers would of the Cards' offense to a certain degree I would think.

ColtCrazy 01-19-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan (Post 1925883)
Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh



A vote for this one. I'd love to see Arizona do it, but I can't see how they'll protect Warner long enough.

Grammaticus 01-19-2009 04:39 PM

Same here, Pitt will win, but I will be cheering for the Cards.

GoSeahawks 01-19-2009 04:56 PM

Cards 24 Steelers 13 and I voted Steelers.

MizzouRah 01-19-2009 06:23 PM

Would love to see Warner and the Cardinals win one.. but I just think Pittsburgh is too damn good.

Dr. Sak 01-29-2009 11:38 AM

Sorry Stiller fans...even if you do win...no parade for you!

City Sources Say There Will Be No Parade If Steelers Win Super Bowl - Sports News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh

Logan 01-29-2009 12:06 PM

Most recent info I found is that in 07, each Colt received $73k for winning the Super Bowl. Sure would be nice if each Steeler chipped in a tiny portion of that bonus to cover the $45k cleanup and any extra security/other costs so the fans could have a parade.

edit: Should also add that I think a team should foot the bill for a victory parade anyway.

Thomkal 01-29-2009 12:32 PM

Go Cards! :)

Butter 01-29-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan (Post 1925883)
Who do I want to win? Arizona. Who will win? Pittsburgh


+46

Thomkal 01-30-2009 06:27 AM

Well I'm now calling for Obama ro be removed from office. He's pulling for the Steelers to win. :( :) He's long been a Steelers fan, second to the Bears of course, and the Pittsburgh owner and Mike Tomlin were big supporters during his campaign. And Bill Bidwell being a McCain supporter probably didn't help either. ;) So I'm really pulling for the Cards to win so I can hear Obama's reaction when they come to visit the White House


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