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RainMaker 04-19-2009 02:34 PM

Supervolcanoes and Other Mega Disasters
 
Was watching some stuff on National Geographic about supervolcanoes. The one in Yellowstone would probably wipe out a good percent of our population and cover the country in an inch of ash. Would also put the planet into an ice age.

The scary thing is there really isn't a way to stop them from happening and it's only a matter of time. The things are so devestating that they change the entire planet. It's amazing for all the power we have over the world, we are still so insignifigant when it comes to this stuff.

Yellowstone is apparently slowly rising. We'll never see it in our lifetime but it's apparently due for one sometime in the near future.

It also got me thinking of other major disasters that will eventually hit our country. There is a fault line up in the Pacific Northwest that would cause a massive tsunami that would wipe out a ton of people in Washington, Oregon, and Canada. Just nuts to think how vulnerable we ultimately are in this world.

DaddyTorgo 04-19-2009 03:01 PM

mmhmm!

yay for mass die-off events!!

Honolulu_Blue 04-19-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 1995799)
Was watching some stuff on National Geographic about supervolcanoes. The one in Yellowstone would probably wipe out a good percent of our population and cover the country in an inch of ash. Would also put the planet into an ice age.

The scary thing is there really isn't a way to stop them from happening and it's only a matter of time. The things are so devestating that they change the entire planet. It's amazing for all the power we have over the world, we are still so insignifigant when it comes to this stuff.

Yellowstone is apparently slowly rising. We'll never see it in our lifetime but it's apparently due for one sometime in the near future.

It also got me thinking of other major disasters that will eventually hit our country. There is a fault line up in the Pacific Northwest that would cause a massive tsunami that would wipe out a ton of people in Washington, Oregon, and Canada. Just nuts to think how vulnerable we ultimately are in this world.


Supervolancoes, giant tsunamis, asteroids from space, zombies, it's all just a matter of time...

Mantle2600 04-19-2009 04:10 PM

Dont forget giant trout.

jeff061 04-19-2009 04:14 PM

The fact we can't control them is why it isn't scary. At least to me. Why bother worrying about them.

Except for zombies. Them bitches are frightening.

RedKingGold 04-19-2009 04:43 PM

I can't wait for the zombies.

Dutch 04-19-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 1995872)
I can't wait for the zombies.


[Shaun is channel hopping]
[Channel 4 News]
Krishnan Guru-Murthy: Though no one official is prepared to comment, religious groups are calling it Judgement Day. There's...
[VH1, playing "Panic" by The Smiths]
Morrissey: ...Panic on the streets of London...
[ITV News]
News Reporter: ...as an increasing number of reports of...
[Football]
Football Commentator: ...serious attacks on...
[Channel Five News]
News Reporter: ...people, who are literally being...
[Nature documentary, leopards eating a gazelle]
Documentary Narrator: ...eaten alive.
[Sky News]
Jeremy Thompson: Witness reports at best are sketchy. One unifying detail seems to be that the attackers in many instances appear to be...
[T4]
Vernon Kay: ...dead excited to have with us here a sensational chart topping...

DeToxRox 04-19-2009 05:21 PM

I am heading to Adrian Veidts when the Zombies become too numerous for my weapon cache.

molson 04-19-2009 06:07 PM

It's kind of interesting to think that it all will end sooner or later. There will be a final Super Bowl, a final World Series, a final U.S. president, a final TV broadcast, a final human, a final working government. Maybe it will be sudden, everything normal one second, gone the next. More likely though, it will be gradual.

Crim 04-19-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mantle2600 (Post 1995847)
Dont forget giant trout.


From catfish large enough to swallow kids whole to trout as large as a boat.

Swaggs 04-19-2009 06:35 PM

I was just reading about hypercanes. They sound fun. :)

Dutch 04-19-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1995950)
It's kind of interesting to think that it all will end sooner or later. There will be a final Super Bowl, a final World Series, a final U.S. president, a final TV broadcast, a final human, a final working government. Maybe it will be sudden, everything normal one second, gone the next. More likely though, it will be gradual.


More importantly, an extended period without internet access.

sabotai 04-19-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 1995998)
More importantly, an extended period without internet access.


Some things are just too terrifying to think about...

sterlingice 04-19-2009 07:02 PM

Doctor Who had a fun episode about the end of the earth, when the sun goes nova. And another about nearing the end of time and the universe itself.

SI

Warhammer 04-19-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 1995799)
Was watching some stuff on National Geographic about supervolcanoes. The one in Yellowstone would probably wipe out a good percent of our population and cover the country in an inch of ash. Would also put the planet into an ice age.

The scary thing is there really isn't a way to stop them from happening and it's only a matter of time. The things are so devestating that they change the entire planet. It's amazing for all the power we have over the world, we are still so insignifigant when it comes to this stuff.



This is a huge reason why I think all the hubub about climate change is a joke. All the earth needs to do is have a good belch and we are toast.

Chief Rum 04-19-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1996226)
This is a huge reason why I think all the hubub about climate change is a joke. All the earth needs to do is have a good belch and we are toast.


Actually we would be icicles.

sterlingice 04-19-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1996226)
This is a huge reason why I think all the hubub about climate change is a joke. All the earth needs to do is have a good belch and we are toast.


So, we're all doomed, don't even try?

SI

Schmidty 04-20-2009 12:39 AM

Oh, forget it.

Warhammer 04-20-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1996249)
So, we're all doomed, don't even try?

SI


There's other reasons too, but it amazes me how some sciences look at us as all powerful, while other sciences look at us as insignificant in the bigger scheme of things.

Hell, you get down to it, and if it wasn't for all those bacteria back half a billion years ago spouting off all that oxygen, we wouldn't be here.

flere-imsaho 04-20-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1996299)
There's other reasons too, but it amazes me how some sciences look at us as all powerful, while other sciences look at us as insignificant in the bigger scheme of things.

Hell, you get down to it, and if it wasn't for all those bacteria back half a billion years ago spouting off all that oxygen, we wouldn't be here.


You're absolutely correct. It makes arguing about things like file-sharing and gay marriage seem downright trivial.




:D

DataKing 04-20-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1995980)
I was just reading about hypercanes. They sound fun. :)


Somebody call Jerry Bruckheimer.

flere-imsaho 04-20-2009 10:38 AM

It blows my mind that there have been recorded points where the ocean temperature (in a specific area, I'm sure) were over 100 degrees F.

Warhammer 04-20-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 1996653)
It blows my mind that there have been recorded points where the ocean temperature (in a specific area, I'm sure) were over 100 degrees F.


One of the theories for the Permian mass extinction is that the oceans got so hot, that carbon started to leech out of limestone, turning the oceans into a weak carbonic acid.

Mustang 04-20-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DataKing (Post 1996644)
Somebody call Jerry Bruckheimer.


Leave the Supervolvanoes to Michael Bay though because those EXPLODE! Michael Bay.. SPLOSIONS!!

MikeVic 04-20-2009 10:40 AM

Is there a way to tell if a volcano is getting closer to errupt? I would think everyone on the planet would be thinking of ways to save the planet if we were all gonna be extinct. I'm sure someone would find a way to contain all that stuff. Or maybe not.

Kodos 04-20-2009 10:44 AM

I say we cover Yellowstone with Gilette's Foamy shaving cream. That'll hold it!

Warhammer 04-20-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1996659)
Is there a way to tell if a volcano is getting closer to errupt? I would think everyone on the planet would be thinking of ways to save the planet if we were all gonna be extinct. I'm sure someone would find a way to contain all that stuff. Or maybe not.


I think the problem is how do you relieve the pressure? The problem is any method that weakens the wall of the caldera and releases a little bit of pressure, you run the risk of all the magma going through and ripping it completely open.

I remember watching a show on Yellowstone and there are some unique things that happen due to the nature of the volcano there. Essentially, once an eruption happens, the process that occurs quickens before slowing, whereas a normal volcano has a massive (relatively) initial eruption before settling down.

That's another reason why volcanos are so tricky is that it does to some degree matter what type of magma is in the chamber.

sterlingice 04-20-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1996659)
Is there a way to tell if a volcano is getting closer to errupt? I would think everyone on the planet would be thinking of ways to save the planet if we were all gonna be extinct. I'm sure someone would find a way to contain all that stuff. Or maybe not.


What Warhammer said is one huge problem- even if we knew it was coming, we couldn't do a thing.

But we don't even have great prediction ability on these. Within a few days, we can figure out when volcanos are going to go off. But any more than that and we're making guesses at best.

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan 04-20-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1996679)
I think the problem is how do you relieve the pressure? The problem is any method that weakens the wall of the caldera and releases a little bit of pressure, you run the risk of all the magma going through and ripping it completely open.

I remember watching a show on Yellowstone and there are some unique things that happen due to the nature of the volcano there. Essentially, once an eruption happens, the process that occurs quickens before slowing, whereas a normal volcano has a massive (relatively) initial eruption before settling down.

That's another reason why volcanos are so tricky is that it does to some degree matter what type of magma is in the chamber.


This has got to be related to the situation where I fart on one end of the couch and my wife is able to feel the shaking on the other end of the couch. There is often a delay in how long the smell takes to reach her, but the shaking is immediate.

Hope this adds to the discussion.

Fidatelo 04-20-2009 11:54 AM

Couldn't we build a gigantic vertical tube that would direct all of the lava into outerspace??

gstelmack 04-20-2009 11:59 AM

Just need to dig underground tunnels so it comes out of Candace's nose on Mount Rushmore...

Mustang 04-20-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 1996763)
Couldn't we build a gigantic vertical tube that would direct all of the lava into outerspace??


Yes, but then the cold of space would solidify the lava causing the earth to have an outer shell and would cause massive global cooling.

Duh.

I mean seriously, do you even think through your thoughts????


:)

Fidatelo 04-20-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang (Post 1996771)
Yes, but then the cold of space would solidify the lava causing the earth to have an outer shell and would cause massive global cooling.

Duh.

I mean seriously, do you even think through your thoughts????


:)


I know it's hard, but keep up with me here. Once it's done we could just sever the tube and get some space tugboats to lug the shell away.

Problem solved.

RainMaker 04-20-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1996659)
Is there a way to tell if a volcano is getting closer to errupt? I would think everyone on the planet would be thinking of ways to save the planet if we were all gonna be extinct. I'm sure someone would find a way to contain all that stuff. Or maybe not.


They definitely have ways to track it and do. The reason it probably doesn't get much attention is that we could be hundreds of thousands of years away from an eruption. Plus there really isn't much we can do to stop it.

Mustang 04-20-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 1996831)
I know it's hard, but keep up with me here. Once it's done we could just sever the tube and get some space tugboats to lug the shell away.


So, you have thought it through....

Crim 04-20-2009 12:47 PM

Tell ya what, I like hard outer shells on ice cream. I like Earth. Why wouldn't I want a hard outer shell on Earth? I think we're on to something.

Fidatelo 04-20-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang (Post 1996839)
So, you have thought it through....


Clearly!

Mustang 04-20-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crim (Post 1996843)
Tell ya what, I like hard outer shells on ice cream.


I don't know about you, but I could go for some Magic Shell now.

Peregrine 04-20-2009 02:54 PM

Not only could there be a geologic event like these mentioned, but what about the ones from space? A gamma ray burst from an exploding star, if it hit earth, would destroy most of our ozone and then the UV rays from the sun would kill most life on earth. One study indicated this could happen from an exposure of just 10 seconds to a GRB - good luck stopping that one, Bruce Willis.

sterlingice 04-20-2009 02:57 PM

So that's why we need the volcano shell now! I'm sure it can stop UV

SI


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