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Historical Nation Draft Voting
Please vote for the Historical Nation Draft here.
List your top 3, and I'll add up the results using a 5, 3, 1 pt system. The drafters made their justifications here....Historical Nation Draft Pre-voting thread - Front Office Football Central The rosters: Abe Sargent - Abe Sargent - Sir Arthur Lewis, Economist, St. Lucia, 20th Abe Sargent - Michelangelo, artist, Vatican, pre-20th Abe Sargent - Miyamoto Musashi, Athelete, Japan, Pre20th Abe Sargent - Ramses II (aka Ramses the Great aka Ozymandias), Ruler/Leader, Egypt, Pre20th Abe Sargent - Sigmund Freud, Scientist, Austria, 20th Abe Sargent - Sydney Opera House, Manmade Structure, Australia, 20th Abe Sargent - The Nile, Geographical Location, Egypt, 20th Abe Sargent - Alexander the Great, Army Chief, Greece, pre-20th Abe Sargent - John Locke, Justice Minister, UK, Pre20th Abe Sargent - Marco Polo, Chief Diplomat, Italy, Pre-20th Abe Sargent - Mother Theresa, Civil Rights Activist, Albania, 20th Abe Sargent - Sergey Korolyov, Air Chief, Ukraine, 20th Abe Sargent - Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th Abe Sargent - Tōgō Heihachirō, Japan, Navy Chief, 20th Apathetic Lurker - Felix Dzerzinsky, Poland, Justice Minister, 20th C. Apathetic Lurker - British Isles, Geographic Location, UK, 20th Apathetic Lurker - Carl Gustaf Mannerheim, Chief Diplomat, Apathetic Lurker - En Hedu' Anna, Artist, Iraq, pre-20th century Apathetic Lurker - Ibn al-haytham, Scientist, Iraq, Pre-20th century Apathetic Lurker - Ibn Khaldoun, Economist, Tunisia, Pre-20th century Apathetic Lurker - Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th Apathetic Lurker - Karl Doenitz, Naval Chief, Germany 20th Apathetic Lurker - Pierre Fredy (Baron de Coubertin), Athlete, France, pre 20th Apathetic Lurker - Simon Bolivar, Civil Rights, Venezuela, Pre-20th Century Apathetic Lurker - Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th Apathetic Lurker - Sputnik, Manmade Object, Russia, 20th Apathetic Lurker - Sun Tzu, Army Chief, China, Pre-20th Apathetic Lurker - Zarathustra, Religious Leader, Iran, pre 20th Barkeep - American Heartland, Geographical Locaion, USA, 20th Century Barkeep - Desmond Tutu, Religious Leader, South Africa, 20th Barkeep - Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century Barkeep - Large Hardon Collider Switzerland 20th Century Manmade Structure Barkeep - Nadia Elena Comăneci Romania Athlete 20th Century Barkeep - Sulieman the Magnificent Turkey Ruler/Leader Pre-20th Century Barkeep - Yi Sun-sin Naval Chief Korea Pre-20th Barkeep49 - Adam Smith, Economist, Great Britain, Pre-20th Barkeep49 - Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Civil Rights Activist, Burma, 20th Century Barkeep49 - Ghengis Khan, Millitary Leader, Mongolia, Pre-20th Barkeep49 - John Glenn, Air Chief, United States, 20th Barkeep49 - Marie Curie, Poland, Scientist, 20th Century Barkeep49 - Moses, Justice Minister, Egypt, Pre-20th Barkeep49 - Tallyrand, Diplomat, France, Pre-20th Century Coffee Warlord - Albert Einstein, Scientist, Germany, 20th Coffee Warlord - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century Coffee Warlord - Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th Coffee Warlord - Charlemagne, Leader/Ruler, France, Pre-20th Coffee Warlord - Erwin Rommel, Army Leader, Germany, Post 20th Coffee Warlord - Henri Dunant, Civil Rights Leader, Switzerland, 20th Century Coffee Warlord - Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th Coffee Warlord - Jesus Christ, Religious Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Coffee Warlord - Mario Andretti - Athlete, Italy, 20th Coffee Warlord - Socrates, Justice Minister, Greece, Pre-20th Coffee Warlord - The Colossus, Manmade Structure, Greece, Pre-20th Coffee Warlord - The Swiss Alps, Geographic Location, Swizterland, Pre-20t Coffee Warlord - William Shakespeare, Artist, England, Pre 20th Coffee Warlord - Yasser Arafat, Diplomat, Egypt, 20th DaddyTorgo - Alexander "The Russian Bear" Karelin, Athlete, Russia, 20th Century DaddyTorgo - Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century DaddyTorgo - Hannibal Barca, Army Chief, Tunisia, Pre-20th century DaddyTorgo - Isaac Newton, Scientist, United Kingdom, Pre-20th Century DaddyTorgo - Itaipu Dam, Man-made object, Paraguay, 20th Century DaddyTorgo - Jawaharlal Nehru, Ruler/Leader, India, 20th Century DaddyTorgo - John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist, United States, 20th DaddyTorgo - John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century DaddyTorgo - Klemens Wenzel, Prince von Metternich, Chief Diplomat Austria, Pre-20th Century DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther King Jr., Civil Rights Activist, USA, 20th Century DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther, Religious Leader, Germany, Pre-20th Century DaddyTorgo - Mordechai Hod, Air Force Leader, Israel, 20th Century DaddyTorgo - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century DaddyTorgo - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th Danny - Adolph Hitler, Leader/Ruler - Germany, 20th century Danny - Alfred Hitchcock, Artist, United States, 20th century Danny - Amazon Rain Forest, Geographical Location - Brazil, Pre 20th Century Danny - Aristotle, Scientist, Greece, Pre-20th Danny - Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century Danny - Isoroku Yamamoto, Air Chief, Japan, 20th Danny - Jean-Jaques Rousseau, Justice Minister - France, Pre 20th century Danny - Mahatma Ghandi, Civil Rights Leader, India, 20th Danny - Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century Danny - Muhammad, Religious Leader, Saudi Arabia, pre-20th Danny - Pope John Paul II, Chief Diplomat, Poland, 20th century Danny - Tamerlane (Timur), Army Commander - Uzbekistan, Pre 20th Century Danny - The Colosseum, Man Made Structure - Italy, Pre 20th Century Danny - Wayne Gretzky, Athlete, Canada, Post 20th century Galaril - Abraham Lincoln, Leader/Ruler, United States, Pre-20th Galaril - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Athelete - Austria, 20th century Galaril - Ben Franklin, Scientist - America, Pre 20th Century Galaril - Captain Rene Fronck, Air Chief, France, 20th Galaril - Darius the Great, Iran , Justice Minister, Pre 20th century Galaril - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Army Chief, United States, 20th Galaril - John Stuart Mills, Civil Rights Leader, Great Britain, Pre-20th Galaril - Joseph Schumpeter,Economist, Moria (Czech Rep.)-Post 20th Galaril - Mikhail Gorbachev, Diplomat, Russia, 20th Galaril - Pablo Picasso, Artist, Spain 20th Galaril - Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century Galaril - Rocky Mountains-Geographic location (Canada)- 20th Century Galaril - Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland(UK), Pre-20th century Galaril - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th Izulde - Confucius, Civil Rights Leader, China, Pre-20th Century Izulde - Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century Izulde - Gerald Gardner - Religious Figure - England - 20th Century Izulde - Hammurabi, Justice Minister, Iraq, Pre-20th Century Izulde - Jim Brown, Athlete, United States, 20th Izulde - Manfred "The Red Baron" von Richthofen, Air Chief, Germany, 20th Century Izulde - Mt. Everest, Geographic Location, China, 20th Century Izulde - Otto von Bismarck, Chief Diplomat, Germany, Pre-20th Century Izulde - Paris Metro - Manmade Structure - France - 20th Century Izulde - Queen Isabella - Ruler/Leader - Spain - Pre-20th Century Izulde - Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century Izulde - Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Military Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century Izulde - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century Izulde - Vladimir Nabokov - Artist - Russia - 20th Century Lathum - Bono, Chief Diplomat, Ireland, 20th Century Lathum - Bruno Tonioli- Justice minister- Italy- 20th century Lathum - Chanakya, Economist, India, pre-20th Lathum - Facundo Bacardi- Scientist- Cuba- Pre 20th Lathum - Great Barrier Reef, Geographical Location, Australia- 20th Century Lathum - Great Wall of China, Manmade structure, China, pre-20th Lathum - John Paul Jones, Naval Chief, United States, Pre-20th century Lathum - Leonardo Da Vinci, Artist, Italy, pre-20th Lathum - Mao Zedung, Leader/Ruler, China, 20th Lathum - Nelson Mandela, Civil Rights, South Africa, 20th Lathum - Religous Leader- Joseph Smith- Pre 20th Century, USA? Lathum - Roger Bannister, Athlete, United Kingdom, 20th Lathum - William Wallace, Army Chief, Great Britain, Pre-20th Lathum - Yuri Gagarin, Air Chief, Russia, 20th Noop - Alonso Pérez de Guzmán - Navy Chief - Spain - pre 20th Noop - Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th Noop - Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th Noop - Internet - Man made Structure - England - 20th Century Noop - James Joyce, Artist, Ireland, 20th Century Noop - King David, Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Century Noop - King Solomon, Justice Minister, Israel, Pre-20th Noop - Oil Fields of Saudi Arabia, Geographical Location, Saudi Arabia, Pre-20th Noop - Pele, Athlete, Brazil, 20th Century Noop - Pierre Elliott Trudeau - Cheif Diplomat - Canada - 20th Noop - Saint Augustine - Religious Leader - Algeria- Pre20th Century Noop - Saladin, Army Chief, Egypt, Pre-20th Noop - Taylor Wang - Air Chief - China - 20th Century Noop - Xiao Gang - Economist - China - 20th Century ntndeacon - Alberto Santos, Dumont, Air Chief, Brazil, 20th century ntndeacon - Andrei Sakarov, Civil Rights Activist, Russia, 20th Century ntndeacon - Attilla the Hun, Army Chief, Hungary, pre-20th century ntndeacon - Chi'ang Kai-shek --- Leader/Ruler---Taiwan---20th Century ntndeacon - Diego Maradona-Athlete-Argentina-20th century ntndeacon - Great Pryamid at Giza-Man Made Structure, Egypt, pre 20th century ntndeacon - Guru Nanak Dev--Religious leader--Pakistan--pre 20th century ntndeacon - Horatio Nelson, Navy Chief, Great Britain, pre-20th century ntndeacon - Johann Sebastian Bach-Artist-Germany-pre 20th century ntndeacon - Karl Marx, Economist, Germany, pre-20th ntndeacon - Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century ntndeacon - The Andes-Geographical Location-Bolivia-pre 20th century ntndeacon - Theodore Roosevelt, Chief Diplomat, United States, 20th century ntndeacon - Tobias Michael Carel Asser, Justice Minister, The Netherlands, 20th century surtt - Billy Bishop, Air Chief, Canada, 20th Century Surtt - Charles Ponzi, Economist, Italy, Post-20 surtt - Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th Surtt - Ferdinand Magellan, Navy Chief, Portugal, Pre-20 surtt - Julius Cesar, Leader/Ruler, Italy, pre-20th Surtt - Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20 surtt - Lech Walesa, Civil Rights Activist, Poland, 20th Century surtt - Louis Pasteur, Scientist, France, Pre-20th surtt - Napoleon Bonaparte, Army Chief, France, pre-20th Surtt - Panama Canal, Man made Structure, Panama, Post-20th surtt - Sir Winston Churchill, Diplomat, UK, Post-20 Surtt - Vincent van Gogh, Artist, Netherlands, Pre-20th Surtt - Vinko Bogataj, Athlete, Slovenia, Post-20 Surtt - Wine producing regions of France, Geographical Location, France, 20th |
larry - do you want to make a ruling on self-voting before voting starts?
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Yeah, I'd say no on self voting.
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1. Abe Sargent
2. Izulde 3. Coffee Warlord Abe's nation is solid all the way through IMO. Im not sold on Sir Arthur Lewis as an ecomomist but the rest of picks more than make up for it. I really like the leadership and the military control this nation would have. Everything fits in nicely with his Geographical Location as well. This was the most well thought out nation IMO. |
1. Izulde
2. Barkeep 3. Abe Sargent |
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Off my cool list |
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Off my cool list |
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I'm just surprised that I was even on it at some point. :D |
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Get Hitler out of your nation and things would have been different;) |
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I have the other people in place to minimize Hitler's weaknesses while employing his strengths. |
1. Izulde
2. Coffee Warlord 3. Barkeep |
1. Barkeep49
2. Coffee Warlord 3. Abe Sargent I kept going back and forth between BK and CW for my top pick; they were that close to each other. But in the end, I liked the overall composition of BK's nation slightly better than CW's. Abe had a really good draft as well. |
1. DaddyTorgo
2. Izulde 3. Noop |
1. DaddyTorgo
2. Galaril 3. Izulde |
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I thought your Colliseum pick was underrated and has gone unmentioned and I liked most of what you did. Athough Hitler did have his strengths he is still a cowardly dictator IMO and got where he did by taking advantage of the weak. |
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Yeah I don't disagree with any of that, and he was an evil man, but he was very charismatic and I was thinking that Ghandi and others could bring out the softer side of him. |
yay people who have me on their lists!
not sure why i'm experiencing a lack-of-love at this point. I think i'm quite strong. |
Again, thanks to larry for a great draft and a TON of fun!
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Indeed, Larry did a great job and it was a lot of fun.
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I'll get on that cheering train. :)
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yay larry!!
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Thanks larry!
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1. Abe
2. Coffee Warlord 3. Noop |
Or if allowed
1. Danny 2. Danny 3. Danny |
1. Danny
2. DaddyTorgo 3. Coffee Warlord |
I do want to add that this was a tough thing to pick because 4 and 5 could easily be 1-3 the breaking point for me was how functional they would be.
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Noop is the man! |
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LOL. You only say that because I picked you 1st. Great draft. |
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Yeah, a lot of people put together really nice drafts. Makes it difficult to choose. |
1 - Abe Sargent
2 - Coffee Warlord 3 - Galaril |
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I had you and Abe 4th and 5th. It was tough. |
1 - Danny
2 - Abe Sargent 3 - Coffee Warlord |
Thanks, guys! This was a fun draft. I'm glad it went over well, and despite some tough judgment calls, we didn't really have any big spats.
I'll set a deadline of Sunday midnight for the voting. |
pfft..no one put me on any list...guess some of you will be getting a visit from Iron Felix to discuss your .."unfortunate state of thought"
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I am right there with you Apathetic. I did not think my draft was that bad either.
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1. Abe Sargent
2. Daddy Torgo 3. Noop Great job by all! The nature of the draft made everyone a very military nation. Which is funny because its sets it up for failure, or at least massive turmoil. Marco Polo and Locke were my favorite pics of the draft. |
Lots of great picks. Here are my rankings:
1. Abe Sargent 93 2. Barkeep 88 3. surtt 86 Coffee Warlord 84 Galaril 81 DaddyTorgo 80 Noop 78 ntdeacon 77 Lathum 73 Danny 72 Izulde 72 Apathetic Lurker 69 Very well done, Abe. |
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:rant::rant::rant: |
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You probably need to be more objective, you were nowhere close to Abe, imo. |
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:mad: whatever |
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Pfft...graded by someone too lazy to have played.. |
1. Surtt
2. Galaril 3. Abe Sargent EDIT: Pretty good job done by everyone. |
I may not always agree with Buccaneer on other topics but I fully acknowledge the man knows his stuff about history.
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gotta stick up for brother bucc, i had you last too... You created a very good historical replica of North Korea. Unfortunately, I found the other drafted nations more interesting. |
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Great, graded last by Alfred E neuman.....go back to your magazine covers.... |
Despite his poor ranking of my squad I think we have to trust Bucc on this, he may be the only one of us who was alive to actually see most of these people in action.
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1. Abe Sargent
2. Coffee Warlord 3. Izulde Surtt's was really good too, but out of the four his was the least painful for me to leave off the list. |
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And great covers they were! Noop: Thanks for the compliment. |
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1. Coffee Warlord
2. Danny Torgo 3. Abe Sargent I didn't see a bad "nation" Coffee's stuck out because I thought Einstein and Shakespeare are arguably tops in their field and they are surrounded by other impressive names. Very good job...very interesting to look through it all. |
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