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Schmidty 06-11-2009 04:48 PM

Bless You!!!
 
A couple of years ago, I said "bless you" to a guy who sneezed, even though I didn't know him. He gave me a scowl and said "Don't give me any religious bullshit". After that, I never said "bless you" to anyone I didn't know. Until today.

I was at my daughter's school dropping off a snack for her class. As I was leaving the school, I passed another parent (I assume it was a parent) who had just sneezed. I reflexively said "bless you". I was past her, but I heard her say, "Don't say that!". I said, "Excuse me?", and she said, "You don't say that to people". I just quickly apologized and left.

What the hell is wrong with saying "bless you"? It's not like I'm stealth baptizing people when I say it. It's not even religious, it's a dead superstition that I thought was just common courtesy.

So has anyone else had this happen? Better yet, does anyone else say it to other people anymore?

lurker 06-11-2009 04:51 PM

Are you sure you didn't say "God bless you?" Still seems like a weird reaction, I've never heard of anyone getting mad about it, even though it's stupid to say it.

MJ4H 06-11-2009 04:51 PM

Wow. People can go fuck themselves afaic

Lathum 06-11-2009 04:52 PM

you should taser those people

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-11-2009 04:54 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ, you if I can't say "Bless You" to someone who sneezes then I'll be goddamned.

RomaGoth 06-11-2009 04:54 PM

Maybe it is just the area where you live. I have never had this type of reaction, but who really knows anymore about anything or why people act the way they do?

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Next time, when someone sneezes just say "fuck you". That way, the "bless you" sounds much nicer. :p

panerd 06-11-2009 04:54 PM

You're so good looking.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker (Post 2047643)
Are you sure you didn't say "God bless you?" Still seems like a weird reaction, I've never heard of anyone getting mad about it, even though it's stupid to say it.


Nope. I've never said "God bless you" to anyone.

Lorena 06-11-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurker (Post 2047643)
Are you sure you didn't say "God bless you?" Still seems like a weird reaction, I've never heard of anyone getting mad about it, even though it's stupid to say it.


Are you saying it's stupid to say bless you?

Schmidty, those people totally overreacted. They're probably the same people that go apeshit over someone saying "Merry Christmas". Fuck 'em

in the ass with pinecones.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2047648)
you should taser those people


I think we finally agree on a situation where a good taserin' is welcome. :)

Schmidty 06-11-2009 05:03 PM

Maybe I should just start saying "Bless you, unless it is not within your religious convictions".

DanGarion 06-11-2009 05:09 PM

How about Fucking Bless You, Dumb Fuck?

chinaski 06-11-2009 05:13 PM

im an atheist and I say bless you.

cartman 06-11-2009 05:14 PM

Gesundheit, ftw?

MJ4H 06-11-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2047673)
Gesundheit, ftw?



Eaglesfan27 06-11-2009 05:16 PM

I've always said "bless you" and I say it to everyone (unless they appear to be a rude person) who is in my presence when they sneeze, stranger or not. I've never had a bad reaction to it.

Lorena 06-11-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2047676)
I've always said "bless you" and I say it to everyone (unless they appear to be a rude person) who is in my presence when they sneeze, stranger or not. I've never had a bad reaction to it.


yup, same here

ColtCrazy 06-11-2009 05:24 PM

I can just never imagine someone having that reaction here in the country. I always thought that "bless you" was just something kind to say when people sneezed, and didn't really have a religious connotation.

wade moore 06-11-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2047676)
I've always said "bless you" and I say it to everyone (unless they appear to be a rude person) who is in my presence when they sneeze, stranger or not. I've never had a bad reaction to it.

+1

Lorena 06-11-2009 05:27 PM

per wikipedia

Quote:

Bless you, or God bless you, is a common English expression addressed to a person after they sneeze. The origin of the custom and its original purpose are unknown. In current practice, it is a socially recommended response.[1]


Origins and legends

Several possible origins are commonly given. The practice of blessing a sneeze, dating as far back as at least 77 AD, however, is far older than most specific explanations can account for.[1]

A legend holds that it was believed that the heart stops when you sneeze, and the phrase "bless you" is meant to ensure the return of life or to encourage your heart to continue beating.[2][3][1]

One explanation holds that the custom originally began as an actual blessing. Gregory I became Pope in 590 as an outbreak of the bubonic plague was reaching Rome. In hopes of fighting off the disease, he ordered unending prayer and parades of chanters through the streets. At the time, sneezing was thought to be an early symptom of the plague. The blessing ("God bless you!") became a common effort to halt the disease.[3]

A variant of the Pope Gregory I story places it with Pope Gregory VII, then tells the common (though untrue) story of "Ring Around the Rosey" being connected to the same plague.[4]
Another version says that people used to believe that your soul can be thrown from your body when you sneeze,[1] that sneezing otherwise opened your body to invasion by the Devil[3] or evil spirits,[2] or that sneezing was your body's effort to force out an invading evil spirit.[1] Thus, "bless you" or "God bless you" is used as a sort of shield against evil.

Alternatively, it may be possible that the phrase began simply as a response for an event that was not well understood at the time.[1]
Another belief is that people used to see sneezing as a sign that God would answer your prayers[4] or an omen of good fortune or good luck.[1] In this case, "Bless you" would be in recognition of that luck.
Tibetan Buddhists believe a sneeze (like meditation, falling asleep, preparing to die) can provide a moment of "clear consciousness," when people are opened to greater understanding


Cringer 06-11-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2047673)
Gesundheit, ftw?


I just feel it's too goofy sounding to say to someone. I will say it to my daughter sometimes, which helps form my stated opinion on the word I guess because she usually laughs at it.

I will say bless you, no bad reactions here. If someone did I would probably be pissed, because I am far from saying it in a religious way. It is the same as "good health to you" in my eyes, but shorter and rolls off the tongue easier.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorena (Post 2047682)
per wikipedia


Thanks Cliff!!!

;)

Cringer 06-11-2009 05:39 PM

I love me a good bubonic plague story.

stevew 06-11-2009 05:44 PM

I think multiple bless you's are annoying. I appreciate the first one but if I'm on a sneezing spree one will be enough.

Honolulu_Blue 06-11-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 2047672)
im an atheist and I say bless you.


+1

I've never heard of anyone reacting like that. That's very strange.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2047705)
+1

I've never heard of anyone reacting like that. That's very strange.


It's Northwest Washington, and specifically, Bellingham. It's very, very weird, especially for a midwest guy like me.

AgustusM 06-11-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2047676)
I've always said "bless you" and I say it to everyone (unless they appear to be a rude person) who is in my presence when they sneeze, stranger or not. I've never had a bad reaction to it.


+1

Groundhog 06-11-2009 06:40 PM

Put me down as a "bless you" speakin' heathen.

Karlifornia 06-11-2009 06:47 PM

If anyone ever has the gall to say bless you to me, I wrap my hand around their throat, bring 'em in real tight to my face and sternly say "If you pull that Bible-thumpin horeshit again, you're gonna be the one who needs the blessings..."

I get arrested a lot.

Groundhog 06-11-2009 06:49 PM

:D

sterlingice 06-11-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 2047690)
Thanks Cliff!!!

;)


Cliff as in... Clavin? If so, nicely done :D

If not, ignore I said anything

SI

sterlingice 06-11-2009 07:04 PM

Boy that's overly sensitive.

Tho I also get a nice chuckle out of everyone who is pissed and saying "eff you with an effing eff eff eff" in the act of condemning people who won't accept a polite greeting :D

SI

sterlingice 06-11-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H (Post 2047675)


Hadn't seen this. Very nice :)

SI

Schmidty 06-11-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2047725)
Cliff as in... Clavin? If so, nicely done :D


Bingo!!!

Toddzilla 06-11-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H (Post 2047645)
Wow. People can go fuck themselves afaic

+1 Tell the next asshole that gives you a hard time not to fucking sneeze in public if they're going to be so uptight.

Eaglesfan27 06-11-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2047694)
I think multiple bless you's are annoying. I appreciate the first one but if I'm on a sneezing spree one will be enough.


I think the proper etiquette is one "bless you" at the end of the sneezing fit.

Autumn 06-11-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2047749)
I think the proper etiquette is one "bless you" at the end of the sneezing fit.


I agree, but some people don't get it. I often sneeze in tears of seven or eight, and when I lived with other people it would take months before they would finally give up on saying bless you every time. After a few years they stop altogether.

Marc Vaughan 06-11-2009 08:44 PM

I always say 'bless you' if someone sneezes, to me its like saying "please" and "thank you" - its just something you do out of politeness, no particular religious affection involved really.

KWhit 06-11-2009 09:13 PM

I'm also atheist and think it's no big deal and sometimes say it to someone myself. It's a weird tradition, I'll grant you that.

I will say that I almost shat a brick when I was last in Las Vegas and me and my buddy played golf. We had to be paired up with 2 other guys because the course was crowded and the first thing out of one of the guy's mouth when we shook hands before we started was "Have a great round. God bless."

THAT was annoying. Saying "bless you" after someone sneezes? Not so much.

KWhit 06-11-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 2047653)
You're so good looking.


I love you for this.

JS19 06-11-2009 09:21 PM

I never say it. I used to all the time, but then I got to thinking, I'm not religious in any way, assuming ti even has to do with that, and what the hell does it even mean? So, I stopped, but I usually get the opposite reaction, I'm the asshole for not saying it.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2047785)
I'm also atheist and think it's no big deal and sometimes say it to someone myself. It's a weird tradition, I'll grant you that.

I will say that I almost shat a brick when I was last in Las Vegas and me and my buddy played golf. We had to be paired up with 2 other guys because the course was crowded and the first thing out of one of the guy's mouth when we shook hands before we started was "Have a great round. God bless."

THAT was annoying. Saying "bless you" after someone sneezes? Not so much.


Ok, not to derail this, but why did that bother you? Maybe that will help me understand the people that got mad at me.

If you're an atheist and don't believe in a creator or God of any sort, why would it annoy you? Wouldn't you just think, "How quaint" and move on? If you know/believe that God doesn't exist, he can't actually bless you can he? If you have no ties to what the guy is saying and he isn't giving you a pamphlet and telling you that you're going to hell, what's the problem with him giving you goodwill from the perspective of his worldview?

I'm just curious. Good gracious, I hope I didn't turn this into a poopy thread. :)

KWhit 06-11-2009 09:36 PM

Well, I don't know if this is an adequate analogy or not, but I would never presume to make an anti-religious comment to someone I never met.

I wouldn't start off a round of golf with, "Have a great round. There is no God." or anything like that.

It doesn't have anything to do with him challenging my belief system and me feeling threatened or anything like that, but it was very assumtive on his part, I think. Saying "bless you" after a sneeze is just a nonsensical phrase that doesn't really mean "May God look after you in your time of sickness and protect you from harm" in this day and age. It's just a shorthand way of acknowlaging the fact that you sneezed. But in the odd context that he said it, it was more meaningful from his perspective. And just weird.

I don't want strangers blessing me all over the place. That's just creepy, IMO.

Schmidty 06-11-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2047810)
Well, I don't know if this is an adequate analogy or not, but I would never presume to make an anti-religious comment to someone I never met.

I wouldn't start off a round of golf with, "Have a great round. There is no God." or anything like that.

It doesn't have anything to do with him challenging my belief system and me feeling threatened or anything like that, but it was very assumtive on his part, I think. Saying "bless you" after a sneeze is just a nonsensical phrase that doesn't really mean "May God look after you in your time of sickness and protect you from harm" in this day and age. It's just a shorthand way of acknowlaging the fact that you sneezed. But in the odd context that he said it, it was more meaningful from his perspective. And just weird.

I don't want strangers blessing me all over the place. That's just creepy, IMO.


I don't get it since he's not asking you to take part, he's justsaying something he thinks is true.

Anyway, it's no big deal. Have a blessed day!! :)

KWhit 06-11-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 2047813)
Anyway, it's no big deal. Have a blessed day!! :)


Grrrrr.....

:devil:

BishopMVP 06-11-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2047749)
I think the proper etiquette is one "bless you" at the end of the sneezing fit.

Yeah, but what about the times when someone sneezes once, you say bless you, then they try and hold off the next one so it comes like 10 seconds later? How long a time lapse between sneezes should you feel compelled to issues a second bless you? Do you then switch it up and go with gehsundheit instead? :)

Not as much fun as judging people based on whether they reciprocate a yawn, but it can be amusing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2047785)
I will say that I almost shat a brick when I was last in Las Vegas and me and my buddy played golf. We had to be paired up with 2 other guys because the course was crowded and the first thing out of one of the guy's mouth when we shook hands before we started was "Have a great round. God bless."

THAT was annoying.

Don't move to Texas.

Galaxy 06-11-2009 10:29 PM

I think God would have better things to do besides blessing a round of golf. :)

EagleFan 06-11-2009 10:29 PM

Bless you KWhit

BrianD 06-11-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2047785)
I'm also atheist and think it's no big deal and sometimes say it to someone myself. It's a weird tradition, I'll grant you that.

I will say that I almost shat a brick when I was last in Las Vegas and me and my buddy played golf. We had to be paired up with 2 other guys because the course was crowded and the first thing out of one of the guy's mouth when we shook hands before we started was "Have a great round. God bless."

THAT was annoying.


If people say things like that to me, I just do a quick internal translation. Someone says "Have a great round, God bless"...I hear "Have a great round, enjoy the day". Rather than be annoyed at the words someone uses to wish you something nice, just mentally translate the good sentiment to words that work for you.

Mustang 06-11-2009 11:59 PM

I say Gesundheit not bless you. God has better things to do than micromanage sneezing


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