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cyril 08-12-2009 05:48 PM

what exactly do OC/DC do?
 
Since playcalling is listed under HC, I am wondering what exactly are the roles of OC/DC? I could imagine the following possibilities/ hypotheses:


1. their attributes are part of the playcalling equation that got bundled into the HC's playcalling.

2. their attributes affect how the players perform in game. While HC makes the calls, OC/DC affect whether the players can execute the plays properly, on top of the player's individual attributes.

3. OC/DC simply help players' development off the field - good coordinators lead to higher ratings than bad coordinators could.

4. OC/DC simply accelerate player unmasking - players mature faster but will end up the same regardless of the OC/DC attributes.

Any insight?

Ben E Lou 08-12-2009 06:27 PM

4

jeffrey 08-12-2009 06:37 PM

I've always had a suspicion that they affect position performance slightly, as well, but this is based on purely anecdotal evidence.

Firefly 08-12-2009 08:52 PM

I'd say 2 & 4

cyril 08-13-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 2093684)
4


is this your final answer?

Ben E Lou 08-13-2009 05:00 PM

Final and only answer.

Dandelion 08-13-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 2094488)
Final and only answer.


That sounds as if You have done a lot of testing about the effects that coaches have.. any chance that You give us some details how You reached that conclusion?

Ben E Lou 08-14-2009 06:13 AM

Sure. Jim pretty much said it directly in one of the Q&As.

Dandelion 08-14-2009 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 2095102)
Sure. Jim pretty much said it directly in one of the Q&As.


I guess You mean Solecismic Q & A: Offensive and Defensive Familiarity - Front Office Football Central concerning Offensive and Defensive Familiarity, right?

But he only says there, that coordinators are not used in the algorithms for the familiarity process. IMHO that doesn't automatically mean that coordinators aren't used as in options 2&3 of the TS's post..

Ben E Lou 08-14-2009 08:18 AM

Believe what you want then. *shurg*

gstelmack 08-14-2009 08:31 AM

Ben, you say it's 4, but what about option 3.5 - it's not that they end up with higher ratings, but I was under the (possibly) mistaken impression that they help with speed of development as well - how fast CUR goes up.

Ben E Lou 08-14-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 2095192)
Ben, you say it's 4, but what about option 3.5 - it's not that they end up with higher ratings, but I was under the (possibly) mistaken impression that they help with speed of development as well - how fast CUR goes up.

Yes, they help current rating increase faster, but that's a part of #4. The faster the current rating goes up, the faster the player is unmasked.

Firefly 08-14-2009 09:17 AM

If that's the quote Ben means, I'm with Dandelion. Me, I think coordinators affect performance during TC. It goes without saying it's just a belief.


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