So what does Manny Pacquiao got to hide?
 

I am not a Pac fan. Guy is a warrior but I don't think he has a shot vs Floyd. That said, I also didn't believe Floyd Sr at first when he called out Pac for using PED's, but now it sure seems like he has something to hide:

Interesting to see how this plays out. I don't know much about boxing, but I think it's safe to assume it's not what it used to be. Over the past yr or so I've been paying much more attention to boxing (relatively speaking), mostly Mayweather and Pacman. I would guess that the sport of boxing is/has been capitalizing on the popularity of these two fighters to draw more fans/viewers. I'm no marketing expert, but boxing is probably turning most of their marketing efforts in drawing in fans like me, guys on the verge of wanting to be more than casual boxing fans. If it turns out Pacman has been using PEDs, I'm gonna lose the little interest I've gained, and would assume most would follow. Point is, I see this destroying a lot of what boxing has been working for, setting it back even further. Just my two cents.

ESPN Radio had a quote from Pacquiao's camp along the lines of "The boxing federation is in charge of drug testing, not Floyd Mayweather."

Shitty way to put the fight off...

I understand not taking a blood test the day before, for some people, me included a blood test takes a lot out of you. Why not change it to 5 days before the fight and then test them after the fight also? (don't they do this anyway?)

it doesn't seem to harm the olympic boxers...

yeah its just a prick.... and DUH of course he takes PEDs they all do, whatever.

Would there be any difference in what the drug test results show if he took the blood test 2 days before the fight or directly after the fight?

if he was doing stuff like the cyclists do/did...yeah

Hope he takes the one that Mayweather wants, then.

Either go through it to shut everyone up or just retire. He doesn't need the the money anyway. :)

And apparently the fight is off for good now. Just heard it on the radio, looking for a link.

Yes, they do.

The Associated Press: Promoter says Pacquiao-Mayweather likely off


I admit that I'm biased. I like Pac-man and dislike Mayweather, and through my biased eyes, this stinks of Mayweather just looking for a way out of the fight. Boxing has a drug testing system in place, they catch people all the time, there's no reason to insist on a different policy for one fight.

I don't know what he's "got to hide" but he might "have to hide" something ;)

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If Mayweather is indeed just looking for a way out of the fight, then it seems the smart thing to do is to call his bluff. It just seems like a really bad PR move to refuse the test.

Yeah, unless there's a legitimate, non-PED reason for Pacquiao to not want to do this, I don't see how he can come out of this looking okay.

Coming from a Manny fan/someone who finds Mayweather boring.

yeah. my respect for him is crashing as we speak


is there such a thing as a legitimate non-PED reason?

Even if there was, no one would buy it.

The problem is what would justify that stance if you are a "clean" fighter? Blood the day before the fight? Look, I like Roach, but if both guys have to do it, that arguement goes by the wayside.

The other thing is, if there was, Manny would have already stated it. It looks to me like he's the one dodging the fight, not the other way around.

If Mayweather truly didn't want to fight him and knew he'd throw a fit like this, this goes down as the PR move of the decade. Kind of like a last second basket in hoops. He stole it from whoever had #1. He comes out looking like a guy standing up for the right thing and his opponent comes off looking like a guy who isn't clean.

He played this one about as well as it could be played.

This is definitely a fight you'd have to assume would get cancelled one way or the other, whether it is to build a bigger payday or just so Mayweather doesn't have to risk it.

I don't really buy that Mayweather is doing this to make sure it is "legit" or however he tries to spin it. He is trying to set guidelines for the fight. I remember him bitching incessantly about the DLH fight and how they controlled everything, and made decisions. He is just stirring up shit, and it is no lose for him to do so.

Pacquio might be on PEDS(probably even), but very well could be truthfully refusing because there is no reason for him to do so. Why should he let Mayweather dictate things? The athletic commision will do the drug testing like they always do.

Obviously though it doesn't come across that way, it sure seems like he is avoiding the test, we will have to see how it plays out, but I had a hard time seeing this fight happen anyway, although I hope I'm wrong.

According to the latest news, Pacquiao's side is fine with doing blood tests, but they want a cutoff date before the fight when the testing stops, and they are fine with a blood test after the fight. And they only want it done a few set times, not randomly.

If I was Pacquiao and I was a pro fighter at his level I wouldn't deal with all that bullshit either. Regardless of if he is clean or not this smells of Mayweather wanting to disrupt Manny's training camp, and it seems to be working.

Can't really blame Mayweather for wanting this, though. I'm a Pacquiao fan, but if he's totally against the "random" portion, why not just meet in the middle and agree to a set schedule of tests?

this is fight hype and your all falling for it

This just sounds like Manny being Manny.

Arum says Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is off - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

Oh well. Sucks for boxing.

I can think of no legitimate reason for Pacquiao to cancel the fight over this.

Based on Pacquiao's interviews that he's given over here, he's said that he doesn't mind at all giving blood anytime before the training camp or right after the fight. He also doesn't mind giving as many urine samples as they want during training camp. He apparently has a belief that he will get weaker if he agrees to the seven mandatory random blood tests within the 30 days leading up to the fight.

So, when does this stop being "pre-fight hype" and become "oh shit, this fight might not happen"?

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum says the Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather fight is off - ESPN

now?

choose the correct answer:
A. Fighters talk
B. Managers talk
C. PR people talk
D. Radio hosts talk
E. Money talks

Boxer Manny Pacquiao may be softening stance on blood testing - ESPN

I think the 30 day limit is BS on two levels. You don't need 30 days to recover from a blood sample. The question of drugs should be made null due to the testing they do after they fight. 14 days is likely as far as he would go, so here's hoping it gets worked out.

Hope it works out, it should be a good fight.
Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather could fight on Nov. 13 - SI.com - Boxing

Can we change the title of this thread to "What is Floyd running away from?"

Shameful of Floyd not to accept but it's funny Pac's team decided to accept every demand Floyd made when everyone in the world knew Floyd wasn't going to be worried about the fight. Good move to get PR back Pac's side but at the end of the day this fight is never happening because neither side is going to allow the other to get the upper hand.

Only reason the fight wouldn't happen is if one of them(Floyd) just doesn't care enough about the money and doesn't feel the need to prove himself.

Which is fine, asshole shouldn't be playing the PR games though.

This deal is most likely dead.

Oh well.

+1

And it would be nice if Bob Arum would shut the fuck up. He's a publicity whore and he comes off as a complete jackass with all of his ridiculous PR stunts. Like the latest one, the deadline and scheduled conference call. Like he really needed to do that. He's trying to make it look like Floyd is scared of Pac-Man (which I think he is), but it just looks silly. It was like a WWE angle or something.