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cartman 02-18-2010 11:01 AM

Plane hits a building in Austin
 
Holy shit, this is less than a mile from my office. I can see the smoke.

Plane crashes into building in Austin, Texas - CNN.com

bigdawg2003 02-18-2010 11:20 AM

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I was driving from Leander on 183-S and drove by the building. Didn't know a plane had hit it until I got back to my office. Very sad

KWhit 02-18-2010 11:50 AM

Word is that this was deliberate. Evidently, it is an IRS building.

KWhit 02-18-2010 11:51 AM

CNN:

12:42 p.m.: The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.

flere-imsaho 02-18-2010 11:55 AM

Tea Partier?

:D

Kodos 02-18-2010 11:56 AM

Certainly a better option than paying taxes.

cartman 02-18-2010 12:03 PM

One of my buddies works for Gemalto, which is in the building right next to this one. He's heading home, they've shut off power to the area so that rescue crews can safely get to some parts of the building that was hit.

KWhit 02-18-2010 12:04 PM

Now CNN is saying it's next door to an FBI building but the building itself may not be an IRS building.

lighthousekeeper 02-18-2010 12:08 PM

I was working a few blocks from there yesterday.

cartman 02-18-2010 12:22 PM

There is a huge IRS campus in south Austin. If this was done intentionally, he must have known his target worked in that building, rather than just picking an IRS target at random.

cartman 02-18-2010 12:26 PM

Apparently the guy posted a lengthy diatribe this morning:

Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business | Statesman.com

Ronnie Dobbs2 02-18-2010 12:31 PM

Dear Joe,

tl;dr

Signed,

Sane People

KWhit 02-18-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2226667)
Apparently the guy posted a lengthy diatribe this morning:

Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business | Statesman.com


Wow. Just read that (most of it, anyway).

Yeah, he was going after the IRS all right.

KWhit 02-18-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Guy
I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.


Sheesh.

KWhit 02-18-2010 12:43 PM

Weird.

The Department of Homeland Security has made multiple statements about this and keep saying "This is not terrorism." So, um... It was (by all accounts) someone deliberately flying a plane into government offices as a response to our government's policies.

If not that, WTF is terrorism?

cartman 02-18-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2226695)
Weird.

The Department of Homeland Security has made multiple statements about this and keep saying "This is not terrorism." So, um... It was (by all accounts) someone deliberately flying a plane into government offices as a response to our government's policies.

If not that, WTF is terrorism?


He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.

Antmeister 02-18-2010 12:47 PM

I work right across the freeway from this disaster two of my coworkers saw this as it happened. If I was here a bit earlier, I would have witnessed it myself, but luckily I didn't.

One of my co-workers saw the plane as he drove past the building on his way to work, heard the crash and drove back around to take pics:


wade moore 02-18-2010 12:50 PM

:(

SportsDino 02-18-2010 12:54 PM

Ya, it is terrorism pretty plain and clear.

Chief Rum 02-18-2010 01:00 PM

Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.

Antmeister 02-18-2010 01:02 PM

To be honest, neither did I. I know of cartman and no one else.

Mizzou B-ball fan 02-18-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2226706)
Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.


I was chatting with Bill Harris about this situation. He works a couple hundred yards from this building. I'm sure he'll post about his experience on his blog in the coming days.

kingfc22 02-18-2010 01:10 PM

Ummmm where do all these nutbags come from. Yeesh.

Antmeister 02-18-2010 01:13 PM

Well the creepy thing is that he burned his house which is less than half a mile from where I live and he crashed a plane less than half a mile from where I work. Sad and disturbing to know how many lives he just turned upside down. In fact reports say that his wife and daughter left the house to stay at a hotel because he was going on a tirade yesterday. They returned in the morning to see their house burned down and would soon learn of the crash. Geez.

albionmoonlight 02-18-2010 01:14 PM

Asshole.

Dr. Sak 02-18-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2226706)
I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.


Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see... :)

Chief Rum 02-18-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2226721)
Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see... :)


Heh...if anyone out here was under that delusion, it would be quickly removed by turning on ESPN. ;)

DeToxRox 02-18-2010 01:24 PM

Well Mr. Big Brother IRS man... take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

Apparently this is the guy who crashed into the buildings manifest.

ISiddiqui 02-18-2010 01:24 PM

Just read his internet screed. Damn... seemed to be anti-government and anti-corporation - kind of the government and corporations are screwing over the middle class, so I'll show them type of terrorist action.

ace1914 02-18-2010 01:29 PM

Just can't tell who is the terrorist nowadays.

cartman 02-18-2010 01:30 PM

Yeah, the Internet Time Masheen shows that website as being for his programming company, before he changed the front page.

DaddyTorgo 02-18-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2226706)
Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.



seriously - you guys could have an epic fucking meetup

cartman 02-18-2010 01:38 PM

When I read this part of the screed:

Quote:

. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change.

It immediately brought to mind this:



No, I don't have a South Park problem. I can stop watching anytime I want.

DaddyTorgo 02-18-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2226715)
Ummmm where do all these nutbags come from. Yeesh.


Texas? ;)

sterlingice 02-18-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2226696)
He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.


Bingo.

SI

sterlingice 02-18-2010 02:27 PM

Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI

cartman 02-18-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2226766)
Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI


or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???

sterlingice 02-18-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2226768)
or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???


Well, I have no house to set on fire so that'd be a tough one. I do have an apartment but that probably voids my security deposit, I'm guessing.

SI

Tigercat 02-18-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2226768)
or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???


Are there IRS people inside his house at the time?

Dutch 02-18-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister (Post 2226700)
I work right across the freeway from this disaster two of my coworkers saw this as it happened. If I was here a bit earlier, I would have witnessed it myself, but luckily I didn't.

One of my co-workers saw the plane as he drove past the building on his way to work, heard the crash and drove back around to take pics:



This is absolutely disgusting in this day and age...who still gets their damn picture taking finger in the way when they shoot pics????

CU Tiger 02-18-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2226766)
Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI


+1

molson 02-18-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 2226774)
This is absolutely disgusting in this day and age...who still gets their damn picture taking finger in the way when they shoot pics????


Seriously - I think my mother must have taken that picture.

So I just skimmed this guy's "manifesto" - he's basically just a tax cheat that blames everyone else for his crimes. No different than a lot of criminals (except that he can fly an airplane)

Arles 02-18-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2226696)
He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.

There is no terrorism in the Obama-led US. Just a bunch of people who may beefs with us but who aren't actual terrorists. That word is just too scary.

DaddyTorgo 02-18-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 2226777)
There is no terrorism in the Obama-led US. Just a bunch of people who may beefs with us but who aren't actual terrorists. That word is just too scary.


:lol:

:confused:

Do you really believe that, or are you just trying to be intentionally asshattish?

sterlingice 02-18-2010 02:41 PM

With regards to the "manifesto": they're cogent, rational thoughts with a reasonably complex thought process behind them. I just don't agree with what he did with said thoughts. And I'm sure there's probably a story that will come out with them.

SI

Tigercat 02-18-2010 02:45 PM

I find it hard to sympathize with the words of a guy who implies that he is in money trouble, and yet owns a private plane. (And one of his admitted issues is his recent purchase of a piano.)

panerd 02-18-2010 02:45 PM

False flag to discredit the anti-government movement?

DaddyTorgo 02-18-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 2226781)
I find it hard to sympathize with the words of a guy who implies that he is in money trouble, and yet owns a private plane. (And one of his admitted issues is his recent purchase of a piano.)


i thought he stole the plane?

path12 02-18-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 2226782)
False flag to discredit the anti-government movement?


Wait. You think dude flew the plane into the building to smear the teabaggers?

This must be the new Godwin.

Antmeister 02-18-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2226721)
Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see... :)


Well actually, the guy is a Cali transplant, just like me.


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