2010-11 Hot Stove League Thread - Grienke is a Baller
 

'Grats to the Giants.

Too bad my hope for the season goes out the window when the Tigs blow a ton of money on VMart.

Dodgers earlier resigned Ted Lilly for three years

I wonder how many years the Giants win will set back hitting sabremetrics.

A couple things baseball did this year, IIRC, that means we all need to start paying attention quick.

1. No more filing for free agency--you're either under contract or you're not, I guess (rights issues, aside).
2. Instead of 13-14 days whatever it was between the end of the World Series and when free agents can sign with other teams, it's now just five. So major free agents could be signing with new teams as soon as next Monday, if I have my math right (and excluding work days).

You are correct. Sunday night is the end of the exclusive rights for clubs so Monday I can be on here bitching about the Tigers giving Victor Martinez a long term deal.

As long as the Tigers don't pay Martinez as a catcher, I like the signing. They can use him at 1B and DH to rotate with Cabrera.

As soon as the Brewers hire a manager, I can go back to not paying attention because nothing will happen with them during free agency.

That's my concern. If we pay him like a Catcher we're going to end up paying him to play 100 game at catcher for two years then DH anyway. Plus they still have hope for Avilia so it'd just fuck up his development.

Within organizations, none. Within the press and among fans, a bunch, I'm assuming.

Most rational people understand that the playoffs are a crapshoot (pun intended for the Giants win!).

2010-2011 MLB Offseason Thread
 

Figured I'd get this going....

Angels Bench Coach Ron Roenicke hired as Brewers manager.

I don't think the Pirates have a manager yet. I don't think it really matters, however.

Just a reminder, the Giants are the reigning World Series Champions.

I don't know if I'll ever get to say that again in my life...so I may as well take advantage of it now :)

I hear Lloyd McLendon is available.

One already started here

2010-11 Hot Stove League Thread - Front Office Football Central

That'd be the day.

That would send shock waves throughout the baseball world.

Adding a post to outduel Detox's thread...



My prediction is that the Mets will make a bad move this offseason.

Haven't they already?

Ooops, the title of that thread threw me off.

I'm sticking with this thread. Lungs doesn't edit thread titles.

I went ahead and merged the 2 threads.

abuse of moderational authoritah

You'll just have to trust me on this one.

Would anyone even notice if the Pirates didn't have a manager next season?

The 50th time he changes the thread title....i hope it annoys you.

:D :D :D :D :D

Sweet! Dodgers picked up Podsendik's option!

QFT

I hope the defending world champs :D go after Crawford. He would make a very nice addition to the outfield and add much needed speed.

Assuming they don't get Crawford (I think someone else throws too much money at him, to be perfectly honest), what do you think should be done with the outfield? It seems you're starting Cody Ross, Andres Torres and Pat Burrell (assuming you keep those guys) - is that good enough for you? If you sign Crawford, who do you bump? Burrell?

I'm sure somebody will throw a big chunk of money at him, but he is the #1 target if I'm Sabean. I don't really see it as bumping somebody as Bochy was mixing parts all year and likely will do the same next year. Don't forget Derosa will likely be back in the mix in LF and 3B. Plus they are not going to pick up Renteria's option (he probably retires anyway) for over $10M so that frees up some cash.

The Giants need to stay aggressive, much like the Niners. Signing Carl Crawford would be awesome, but I just don't see that happening.

I don't get it. I actually don't mind when people update season/off-season thread titles to mention something recent that's happened, if that's what you mean. So I highly doubt it will annoy me. I didn't realize I was supposed to ban certain people from starting threads. I thought you people were against teh bannings.

Just a little annoying no big deal for me.

Seriously. You'd think I held steve up at gunpoint or something.

It's all my fault!

I actually find it useful when the title is changed.

I like it too

I am a man of the people, what can I say?

•Here's a haymaker coming your way: TigerBlog reports ESPN Baseball Today podcast host Seth Everett said the Tigers are "pretty interested" in Milwaukee first baseman Prince Fielder. Fielder, 26, hit a career worst .261 with 32 home runs with 83 RBIs, and the Chicago Tribune reports the interest in Fielder -- thus far -- has been relatively quiet.

Would love this if we somehow got Prince without giving up Turner. That said it is unrealistic to think about.

The idea of Miggy/Prince though is simply incredible though.

Someone is going to be left holding a terrible contract with Fielder. List height and weight of 5'11" and 270 lbs. doesn't seem like it will age well. It will b a tough short term move, but given the money Boras will want and the high quick bust risk, I think Milwaukee should unload him while they can possibly be over paid for doing so.

Fielder has about 4 quality years left in him. He'd be DHing here which may accelerate his fat assness but I think he'd be worth a gamble if we somehow kept Turner.

I expect he'll be a 900 OPS guy and then all the sudden drop to 700 one year. The game is trying to guess what year that will be.

A four year deal would be a no-brainer IMO, but I doubt he;ll sign for anything less than six. He might make it through six, but he may give you a couple years as a number 8 or 9 part-time hitter with a 18 mil salary.

I hate the idea of Fielder and Cabrera for more than 1 year. I don't see Cabrera as the long-term 1B (at least not without sacrificing D as he ages), so you'd end up with 2 DHs.

And I'd REALLY hate the idea of my two favorite teams tying themselves down to long-term deals for Ryan Howard and Prince Fielder. UGH. Perhaps one of them could convince Andre Smith to play baseball during the off-season and give him a 10-year contract, too.

Sparky Anderson died today.

Red Sox pick up Ortiz's option for next year. It's a slight overpay, but I think it's worth it to avoid having to sign a long term deal.

Beltre I wouldn't mind re-signing, but I assume he'll be gone for 1.5-2m or 1 year longer than we offer him. V-Mart I don't really want - I think someone will pay him like an elite catcher when really he'll spend half (or more) of the deal as a slightly above-average 1B/DH.

Not sure if it was reported on the board, so apologies for the repeat. Omar Vizquel got a one year, $1.75 million re-signing with the White Sox. He'll probably fill utility role next year.

So let's say dream becomes reality, and the Giants land Crawford. They re-sign Ross and Huff, but don't re-sign Burrell or Renteria. Your lineup?

CF Crawford
RF Torres
C Posey
1B Huff
LF Ross
3B Derosa
2B Sanchez
SS Uribe

Schierholtz, Ishikawa, Whiteside and Sandoval off the bench. Think that's good enough? Definite upgrade over last year, I believe.

FA has officially begun fyi.

I'll say the first major FA to sign is Crawford with Anaheim Sunday afternoon.

I thought it started tomorrow night?

In any case, I wouldn't mind your prediction being true. ;)