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tucker rocky 01-04-2011 01:58 PM

Poll: Andrew Luck
 
Will Carolina pick Luck at #1 ?

Assuming he goes pro.

RomaGoth 01-04-2011 02:02 PM

Shouldn't we see if he is going pro first?

Ksyrup 01-04-2011 02:11 PM

ESPN.com has an article says 2 high-ranking Carolina people are saying they will pick him.

Danny 01-04-2011 02:12 PM

They would be idiots not to.

Matthean 01-04-2011 02:13 PM

Most lopsided poll ever? :D

TRO 01-04-2011 02:27 PM

Where is Ignacious Trout?

Logan 01-04-2011 02:31 PM

Likely to be the highest graded QB prospect since Elway.

Matthean 01-04-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2403303)
Likely to be the highest graded QB prospect since Elway.


Including Manning?

NorvTurnerOverdrive 01-04-2011 02:35 PM

unless they got a king's ransom for the pick.

Logan 01-04-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2403306)
Including Manning?


Yep, from what I heard the other day. You remember of course that there were many who had Leaf graded higher because of his "physical ability" edge, and people also questioned Peyton's lack of ability to win the big game at Tennessee.

Thinking about it, I also remember mention of Palmer grading out to be almost flawless as well.

Swaggs 01-04-2011 02:40 PM

They better.

Butter 01-04-2011 02:43 PM

Good thing they drafted Clausen.

Butter 01-04-2011 02:44 PM

What's the difference between "no" and "pick another player"?

Danny 01-04-2011 02:46 PM

The no option is if they decide to let the time run out without making a pick

Butter 01-04-2011 03:01 PM

Ah, the "Minnesota Viking maneuver".

Sun Tzu 01-04-2011 03:36 PM

This isn't a real poll without a trout option.

RomaGoth 01-04-2011 04:09 PM

For anyone who is on the fence with this poll:

Sources: Carolina Panthers to pick Andrew Luck if Stanford QB is in NFL draft - ESPN

k0ruptr 01-04-2011 04:18 PM

as a Carolina fan, they better take him! Fuck Jimmy Clausen pickles.

Crapshoot 01-04-2011 04:21 PM

No doubt whatsoever, if he goes pro. In fact, I'd venture that they won't even listen to trade offers (from say, the 49ers) to move down - Jerry Richardson is an ornery old goat.

stevew 01-04-2011 04:23 PM

Luck should have his dad solicit a bonus offer from the Panthers. Of course, he won't know anything about it.

stevew 01-04-2011 04:25 PM

How did the Panthers go from being able to run at will, to sucking overnight? I know they had some injuries. But I think Luck is in a pretty good position there as they have some semblance of a left side of a line.

Matthean 01-04-2011 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot (Post 2403441)
No doubt whatsoever, if he goes pro. In fact, I'd venture that they won't even listen to trade offers (from say, the 49ers) to move down - Jerry Richardson is an ornery old goat.


To trade from 7 to go up to 1 is going to be painful as hell.

Apathetic Lurker 01-04-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2403452)
To trade from 7 to go up to 1 is going to be painful as hell.



In any other year probably not.....

Radii 01-04-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2403446)
How did the Panthers go from being able to run at will, to sucking overnight? I know they had some injuries. But I think Luck is in a pretty good position there as they have some semblance of a left side of a line.


Passing for nearly 700 yards less than the next worst team in the league despite being behind all the time makes it pretty hard to open up the run game.

Seriously, Carolina threw for 2289 yards this year... that's only 143 per game. Next worst, Arizona at 2921/183 per game.

Logan 01-04-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2403425)


I would think that even if internally they were sure Clausen was the next Brady, they would still float this out there to get him to declare and improve the value of that pick.

stevew 01-04-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii (Post 2403486)
Passing for nearly 700 yards less than the next worst team in the league despite being behind all the time makes it pretty hard to open up the run game.

Seriously, Carolina threw for 2289 yards this year... that's only 143 per game. Next worst, Arizona at 2921/183 per game.


Trust me. I played Steve Smith 13 weeks in a row figuring they would snap out of it.

NorvTurnerOverdrive 01-04-2011 06:37 PM

i don't know much about either team but as a casual observer it seems like car is in full on rebuild mode whereas sf has a core of young players minus a qb.

sf could/should come strong with an offer.

Matthean 01-04-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker (Post 2403459)
In any other year probably not.....


The Atlanta/San Diego trade sent 4 players total to San Diego and Atlanta moved from 5 to 1. So you are looking at bumping it up past 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks with a 4th player.

Raiders Army 01-04-2011 07:14 PM

I think the two biggest factors are whether there is an NFL lockout and if Harbarough leaves.

CU Tiger 01-04-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive (Post 2403513)
i don't know much about either team but as a casual observer it seems like car is in full on rebuild mode whereas sf has a core of young players minus a qb.

sf could/should come strong with an offer.



Carolina on the O side has 2 B= A- RBs
An overall B- line
1 aging but still B= receiver and no QB.
If they had another receiver it may be interesting to see what Clausen/Moore or Luck could do, but as it sits today I luterally watched teams triple cover Steve Smith with quarter help over the top and dare them to throw it some where else. usually Clausen/Moore did..to the defense

Eaglesfan27 01-06-2011 01:33 PM

There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.

RomaGoth 01-06-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2404514)
There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.


He must really not want to play in Carolina.

albionmoonlight 01-06-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2404514)
There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.


The sense I get is that the salary cap (if enacted) would be in effect for all future draftees. I think (though I might be mistaken) that the lockout will occur after the draft, but before anyone is signed.

spleen1015 01-06-2011 01:53 PM

Hasn't he always said he was going to get his degree?

sabotai 01-06-2011 01:57 PM

And he's staying.

Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN

Ronnie Dobbs2 01-06-2011 01:59 PM

Ok, Skins, start losing!

Matthean 01-06-2011 02:00 PM

Well I know who Carolina won't be picking now. :lol:

wade moore 01-06-2011 02:06 PM

I see absolutely no logical reason for this decision.

RomaGoth 01-06-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2404535)
Ok, Lions, start losing!


Fixed :D

Logan 01-06-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2404540)
I see absolutely no logical reason for this decision.


Rich family, rookie cap likely to be in place anyway, recent history of major injury not reducing chances of being selected #1.

Ksyrup 01-06-2011 02:16 PM

OK, Troy, I agree - let Tebow start all 16 games next year!

M GO BLUE!!! 01-06-2011 02:18 PM

Looks like the Panthers are out of Luck.

jbergey22 01-06-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!! (Post 2404548)
Looks like the Panthers are out of Luck.


Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

bhlloy 01-06-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 2404526)
The sense I get is that the salary cap (if enacted) would be in effect for all future draftees. I think (though I might be mistaken) that the lockout will occur after the draft, but before anyone is signed.


A full season of lockout has got to be a nightmare scenario for 2011 late round picks who will have twice the number of players to compete against for roster spots, and it will really suck if somebody gets a serious injury in the meantime and never sees a dime. Do you head to Canada and play in the CFL for a salary and risk an injury there or do you just sit on your ass for a year?

Definitely not a good time to be a senior who could have come out last year. A lot of the scenarios that were being floated back then seem to be coming true.

bhlloy 01-06-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2404550)
Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.


This. I wonder how much this plays into Harbaugh's decision. Assuming he wants the NFL and not Michigan, there will be NFL jobs next year and his stock could even go up with Luck back and the recruiting class they are bringing in.

wade moore 01-06-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2404544)
Rich family, rookie cap likely to be in place anyway, recent history of major injury not reducing chances of being selected #1.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2404550)
Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.


Are you guys really serious?

Even if there IS a rookie cap, what is the BENEFIT to staying. Don't put that "if an NFL career" doesn't work out carrot out there.

Let's say by some chance Luck needs something to fallback on if he is 3 years and done and can't manage the millions he'll get in a bonus......

Do you really think that Andrew Luck's backup life is significantly different if he finishes his 4th year at Stanford or goes to the NFL and finishes his degree wherever in the offseason?!

Young Drachma 01-06-2011 02:25 PM

Jake Locker tells you to go, silly guy. You can always get your degree, leaving tens of millions on the table is absurd.

k0ruptr 01-06-2011 02:25 PM

fuck. this hurts the panthers. who the hell do we pick now.

Ben E Lou 01-06-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2404550)
Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

If it doesn't work out, I'm fairly sure he'll be able to afford to pay the rest of his tuition.

RedKingGold 01-06-2011 02:32 PM

If the Mayans are right about the 2012 Apocolypse, then Luck is going to be really pissed about missing that one year in the NFL.


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