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GrantDawg 07-23-2011 11:44 AM

RIP Amy Winehouse
 
Not a shock.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rmed-dead.html

rowech 07-23-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 2501923)


This might be the least surprising celebrity death ever.

cartman 07-23-2011 11:47 AM

Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.

GrantDawg 07-23-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2501926)
Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.



Kieth enjoyed being high, but was lucky to not to die by accident. Winehouse never seemed to want to live long.

cartman 07-23-2011 12:00 PM

Jimi Hendrix
Janice Joplin
Jim Morrison
Kurt Cobain
Amy Winehouse

If you are a famous singer, don't do drugs until you turn 28.

Dodgerchick 07-23-2011 12:06 PM

They tried to make her to go to rehab but she said, "no, no, no".

RIP, hope she finds peace.

Matthean 07-23-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

her death is being treated as 'unexplained' by police.

While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.

GrantDawg 07-23-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2501935)
While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.



Not really. Unless there is a needle still in her arm (and possibly even if there is), they can't tell a drug-related death without testing. Could be she died of her heart giving out, pneumonia, or several other factors that was caused from years of abuse.

Buccaneer 07-23-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2501935)
While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.


Have to give the PR flaks the time to come up with a good lie - like acid reflux or something.

Least surprising celebrity death, esp. after her "performance" last month and the cancelling of the tour.

Matthean 07-23-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 2501936)
was caused from years of abuse.


Which is my point. The years of abuse is what killed her.

RainMaker 07-23-2011 12:20 PM

Least surprising celebrity death ever. Now I'll have to see the news dedicate time to someone who didn't really give a shit about living and who's celebrity was partially from her being a colassal fuck up.

Suicane75 07-23-2011 12:31 PM

I find this to be such a horrible shame. Not because of her fame or her talent but for the fact that she had so much more possibility for help than the majority of people with her problem. Yet her and the people close to her pissed it away and let her die slowly and horrifically on the public stage.

molson 07-23-2011 12:37 PM

This one could kind of go in the "what makes you feel hold" thread for me too, because I wouldn't recognize this person, know what songs she sung, or know anything about them other than vaguely that she was a big druggy. Kind of like how an old guy would react to the deaths of any druggy celebrity.

RedKingGold 07-23-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2501931)
Jimi Hendrix
Janice Joplin
Jim Morrison
Kurt Cobain
Amy Winehouse

If you are a famous singer, don't do drugs until you turn 28.


One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

Matthean 07-23-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2501949)
One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?


Something that goes against her is a lack of albums even considering the list has people who put out few of them. She never put out another one after "Back to Black" which put her on the map.

From wikipedia

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British singer Adele had credited Winehouse's success in the United States for making her and fellow British singer Duffy's journey to the United States "a bit smoother".[74] American singer Lady Gaga credited Winehouse with paving the way for her rise to the top of the charts. She appeared to be using a metaphorical analogy to explain that Winehouse made it easier for unconventional women to have mainstream pop success.[75] The "Winehouse phenomenon" has been credited by Sebastian Danchin, author of Encyclopedia of Rhythm & Blues and Soul, of kick-starting a revival of soul music that has been ongoing since 2000. Danchin quoting Raphael Saadiq, Anthony Hamilton, and John Legend said "Amy Winehouse was produced by people who wanted to create a marketing coup. The positive side is that it reacquainted an audience with this music and played an introductory role for others. This reinvigorated the genre by overcoming the vintage aspect".[76]
The release of Back to Black and the emergence of Lily Allen has been credited by The Sunday Times as directly creating the market for the media proclaimed "the year of the women" in 2009 which has seen five female artists nominated for the Mercury Prize. After the album was released record companies sought out female artists with a similar sound and fearless and experimental female musicians in general. Adele and Duffy were the second wave of artists with a sound similar to Winehouse's. A third wave of female musicians that has emerged since the album was released are led by VV Brown, Florence and the Machine, La Roux and Little Boots.[77] In February 2010, rapper Jay-Z credited Winehouse with revitalising British music, saying, "There's a strong push coming out of London right now, which is great. It's been coming ever since I guess Amy (Winehouse). I mean always, but I think Amy, this resurgence was ushered in by Amy."[78] In March 2011 the New York Daily News ran an article attributing the continuing wave of British female artists that have been successful in the United States to Winehouse and her absence. Spin magazine music editor Charles Aaron was quoted as saying "Amy Winehouse was the Nirvana moment for all these women," "They can all be traced back to her in terms of attitude, musical styles or fashion". According to Keith Caulfield chart manager for Billboard "Because of Amy, or the lack thereof, the marketplace was able to get singers like Adele and Duffy," "Now those ladies have brought on the new ones, like Eliza Doolittle, Rumer and Ellie."[79]

Julio Riddols 07-23-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2501949)
One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?


I'd vote no.

Draft Dodger 07-23-2011 12:58 PM

the inevitability of this makes it sadder

BYU 14 07-23-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2501954)
the inevitability of this makes it sadder


+1

William051071 07-23-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2501926)
Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.


He's done so much, his body is immune to anything that might kill him.
Pretty close to being immortal.

He can fall out of a tree, suffer a head injury, and still live.

ColtCrazy 07-23-2011 02:44 PM

I woke up from a nap and was reading updated info on the BBC about the horrible Norway attacks when I saw this up in the top right.

I feel very guilty that, like many of you, I wasn't surprised at all. Still a shame, but not shocked at all.

Wonder if this ends up giving up cult like status?

Scoobz0202 07-23-2011 04:12 PM

Addiction is so cruel.

Ksyrup 07-23-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 2501947)
This one could kind of go in the "what makes you feel hold" thread for me too, because I wouldn't recognize this person, know what songs she sung, or know anything about them other than vaguely that she was a big druggy. Kind of like how an old guy would react to the deaths of any druggy celebrity.


Yep. She might as well be Lindsay Lohan. I know she sings, but I wouldn't know of her if not for her personal issues.

Scoobz0202 07-23-2011 10:55 PM

Yea, I don't know if 20-30 years from now she will be in the same league as Hendrix, Joplin, etc. but I do know that Back to Black is a phenomenal album, and Love Is A Losing Game is a song that should go down as a great. She didn't accomplish what those did by 27, but I feel she had the potential.

stevew 07-23-2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2501949)
One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

I suppose the fact that she owns more Grammys than the rest of those people combined should count for something.

DaddyTorgo 07-23-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 2502095)
Yea, I don't know if 20-30 years from now she will be in the same league as Hendrix, Joplin, etc. but I do know that Back to Black is a phenomenal album, and Love Is A Losing Game is a song that should go down as a great. She didn't accomplish what those did by 27, but I feel she had the potential.

Never heard of the album or the song, so I'd disagree vehemently.

Izulde 07-23-2011 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2502104)
I suppose the fact that she owns more Grammys than the rest of those people combined should count for something.


Considering the stupidity of contemporary voters, no, no it shouldn't.

johnnyshaka 07-24-2011 12:32 AM

@normmacdonald
RIP Amy Winehouse. We lost a true heroin addict today.

larnott 07-24-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 2502106)
Considering the stupidity of contemporary voters, no, no it shouldn't.


And, to that end, the musical tastes of voters in the late 60's as well. "Up Up and Away" by the Fifth Dimension cleaned up the 1968 Grammys... Record of the Year, Song of the Year, etc.

Matthean 07-24-2011 08:28 AM

As much valid hate the Grammys get, this isn't like Katy Perry, or Justin Bieber getting nominated. "Rehab" was one of, if not, the best single that year. The record by no means was a one hit wonder either, so I have little to no issue with whatever awards that album was awarded. Yes, some rather talented acts don't get awarded. It doesn't lessen the quality of what Amy put out on "Back to Black."

Of the people listed, I do believe she is the only one who isn't American. Duffy is somebody who got pushed because of Amy and is far less known in America. It still doesn't mean her single "Mercy" isn't great.

Rizon 07-24-2011 10:35 AM

Lance Bass is gay.

cartman 07-24-2011 11:30 AM

Someone noted that because of all of the singers that died at age 27, that means we might only have 10 more years of Justin Bieber.

M GO BLUE!!! 07-24-2011 01:22 PM

In retrospect, perhaps she should have taken rehab a bit more seriously...

SteveMax58 07-24-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 2502111)
@normmacdonald
RIP Amy Winehouse. We lost a true heroin addict today.

:lol:

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-26-2011 10:12 AM

This article reads like a nightmare if you're a parent. Parents who appear to be just like any other regular parent who have a child that has her life totally fall to pieces. I would think that you always are left to wonder if you could have done anything differently.

Family say farewell to "angel" Winehouse - omg! news on Yahoo!

Ksyrup 07-26-2011 10:33 AM

Artists at that level aren't really too "normal," though. There's only so much you can do.

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Record industry body the Official Charts Company said on Tuesday that her music was expected to dominate the British charts by the end of the week.

She is on course to have seven singles in the Top 40 and 14 in the Top 200, with the biggest selling track currently Back To Black followed by "Rehab," "Tears Dry On Their Own," "You Know I'm No Good" and "Valerie."

In the year following his death, Jackson sold more records in Britain than any other artist.


Ugly apparition, God's gift to oxygen
The puffed up immortal son
How they love him cause he'll become
The ghost at number one


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