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LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 09-28-2011 12:48 PM

New Book and Allegations on Walter Payton
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t11_a2

I am stunned. I mean obviously no person is perfect. I have a hard time not viewing this as a hatchet job and unnecessary, but of course I am biased.

Ksyrup 09-28-2011 01:06 PM

First Kirby Puckett, now Sweetness. Color me shocked.

You really don't think a professional athlete could have a series of girlfriends/affairs, and that a football player could get hooked on painkillers and be depressed? I bet this is the story of more athletes, particularly football players as it relates to painkillers and depression, than we would want to believe.

M GO BLUE!!! 09-28-2011 01:09 PM

At least Brett Favre never got hooked on painkillers & women.

DanGarion 09-28-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!! (Post 2537387)
At least Brett Favre never got hooked on painkillers & women.


If getting hooked on this woman is a bad thing I want to get hooked!


Ksyrup 09-28-2011 01:15 PM

I believe she is a paincauser.

JediKooter 09-28-2011 01:16 PM

Where do I sign up?

Maple Leafs 09-28-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2537374)
I have a hard time not viewing this as a hatchet job and unnecessary, but of course I am biased.

Jeff Pearlam has been blogging/tweeting about his work on the book for a long time, and has made it very clear that he admires Payton enormously.

Doesn't mean the book will be positive or even fair, but if it's a hatchet job he's been doing a hell of a sell job to set it up.

spleen1015 09-28-2011 01:24 PM

When Payton died from liver issues, I thought it was pretty much a given that those issues were caused by substance abuse of some sort.

As for the affairs, I'm not surprised by any pro athlete cheating on his wife. It comes with the territory.

The thing that I don't like about that story is this line "Pearlman said he wanted to write a book about "someone decent; about someone caring".

If you wanted to write about a decent and caring person and you found out that this person was not who you thought he was, why keep writing the book? He mentioned Payton's kids and the impact this book will have on them. Well, if you're so fucking concerned about it, why write the book? Let someone else write the book and stay out of it.

jeff061 09-28-2011 01:28 PM

I don't consider any of that shocking. I was expecting worse.

He was a football player, hell a professional sports player, all that stuff is almost assumed.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 09-28-2011 01:34 PM

I assume all that stuff about the players I don't care about.

This was sweetness.SWEETNESS!

spleen1015 09-28-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2537409)
I assume all that stuff about the players I don't care about.

This was sweetness.SWEETNESS!


I would be sad and disappointed to find out that Cal Ripken, Jr. had girlfriends or did steroids, etc, but I wouldn't be shocked by it.

JediKooter 09-28-2011 01:37 PM

And he always will be Sweetness.

EDIT: I don't think this book would even sell if it was about Chuck Munice, but, since it's about one of the most popular and best running backs ever...I'm sure it will sell quite a few copies.

Maple Leafs 09-28-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 2537402)
If you wanted to write about a decent and caring person and you found out that this person as not who you thought he was, why keep writing the book?

Practical answer: Because by this point you have a book deal, and have done dozens of interviews and spent hundreds of hours working on it.

Optional answer: Because you're trying to tell a true story of somebody's life, not write a Disney-fied obituary.

Scoobz0202 09-28-2011 02:19 PM

And he's a journalist. Isn't that the point? Yea, he feels for the kids, but I bet the journalist in him told him he had to write this book.

King of New York 09-28-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2537414)
And he always will be Sweetness.

EDIT: I don't think this book would even sell if it was about Chuck Munice, but, since it's about one of the most popular and best running backs ever...I'm sure it will sell quite a few copies.


Is Chuck Munice an FOF player that I never heard of? If so, no wonder no one would want to read a book about him. :p

Blackadar 09-28-2011 02:23 PM

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MuncCh00.htm

King of New York 09-28-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackadar (Post 2537458)


Oh, I know who Chuck Muncie is--everyone has heard of him. Just not too sure about this Chuck Munice guy.:)

Drake 09-28-2011 02:36 PM

Does anyone have a link exposing Bozo the Clown as an alcoholic pedophile? That's about the only thing missing in this "ruin the childhood of a million kids who grew up in Chicago" thread.

Ksyrup 09-28-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 2537468)
Does anyone have a link exposing Bozo the Clown as an alcoholic pedophile? That's about the only thing missing in this "ruin the childhood of a million kids who grew up in Chicago" thread.


You rang?


JediKooter 09-28-2011 02:55 PM

That is not a picture of Chuck Muncie.

Crapshoot 09-28-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 2537398)
Jeff Pearlam has been blogging/tweeting about his work on the book for a long time, and has made it very clear that he admires Payton enormously.

Doesn't mean the book will be positive or even fair, but if it's a hatchet job he's been doing a hell of a sell job to set it up.


Jeff Pearlman is a hatchet-job writer by trade - I simply don't trust him, at all.

Maple Leafs 09-29-2011 09:08 AM

Pearlman responds on his blog:

Quote:

I’m not sure if people—the angry people—understand or care to understand. Two and a half years ago, when I embarked on this project, Chicagoans were—across the board—elated. “Walter Payton! What a great subject for a biography! Awesome!” And they were right. Walter Payton is a great subject for a biography. He’s an icon. He’s beloved. He’s misunderstood. He’s mysterious. Truthfully, I’ve never come across a better subject. Ever.

But here’s the thing—”definitive” biography means definitive. To try and tackle a man’s life—his entire life—is daunting. Of course, you write about the touchdowns and the bootlegs; about 275 yards (with a screaming-high fever) and Super Bowl XX and Jim McMahon and Willie Gault.

But, and this is the rough part, you are not a public relations executive. You are a journalist, trying to paint the full picture. The FULL picture. You have to, in the name of honesty; in the name of authenticity. Otherwise, why have biographies at all? Why look back at the lives of JFK and Ronald Reagan and MLK and Malcolm X and Jim Morrison and Marilyn Monroe and on and on and on? What’s to learn … to understand … to appreciate if all we do is turn the deceased into unflawed icons?

What’s the point of history, if history can only be approved talking points?


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