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stevew 02-04-2012 11:20 PM

Star Wars 3D re-releases
 
Anyone excited about the Phantom Menace at all? I imagine the original trilogy will do big dollars in a few years, but I guess I can't imagine any of the prequels doing much more than 20 or so million.

Kodos 02-04-2012 11:20 PM

I'm trying to bring my boy up right... with no viewing of the prequels.

Grover 02-04-2012 11:48 PM

Anyone who pays money to see these abominations should be shot dead on the spot.

Matthean 02-04-2012 11:56 PM

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General Mike 02-05-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2604474)
Anyone excited about the Phantom Menace at all? I imagine the original trilogy will do big dollars in a few years, but I guess I can't imagine any of the prequels doing much more than 20 or so million.


They'll do billions. All the geeks who complain about the editing will still go 3 times each, just so they have more to bitch about.

Draft Dodger 02-05-2012 09:26 AM

I don't care about the 3D, but I am looking forward to being able to see a Star Wars movie in the theater with my kids, even it if it is one of the prequels.

Autumn 02-05-2012 10:17 AM

+1

I'm not exactly sure if I'll go. But the boys have seen the original trilogy a number of times. Eventually I have to start them on the prequels. Seeing it in the theater would be a ton of fun for them.

spleen1015 02-05-2012 10:33 AM

I was as big a Star Wars geek as they come. Then I grew up and realized Lucas had enough of my damn money. I'm just that excited or interested by it anymore.

Drake 02-05-2012 11:07 AM

Upon seeing the commercial, one of my kids cracked, "They should have subtitled it 'A Whole New Dimension of Horror'."

Tasan 02-05-2012 06:41 PM

Well I love Star Wars, and while I'm not a huge fan of the prequels, my boys (6 yrs and 9 yrs) enjoy them as well as the originals. We'll be going and seeing all of them in the theaters since they've never gotten to see any of them that way. I'm actually pretty excited just for the experience with them.

Mustang 02-07-2012 01:06 AM

I hate everything about Episode One. Just the thought of it makes my blood boil.

Unfortunately, if my daughter was a little older, I would still go.

RendeR 02-07-2012 07:03 AM

Seriously, y'all fanboys (see anyone who thinks the way Mustang does above) need to get over yourselves. They're movies. If they upset you that much you should stop watching movies, like. Ever.

I've never understood the ridiculous hatred of the prequels. The originals are written just as badly, acted just as badly and have just as much stupid campy crap. The only difference is 2 decades between making them. I grew up during the ULTIMATE Star Wars explosion, I understand the hype over it but holy cow, they're just movies.

Mustang 02-07-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 2605576)
Seriously, y'all fanboys (see anyone who thinks the way Mustang does above) need to get over yourselves. They're movies. If they upset you that much you should stop watching movies, like. Ever.


Ok. Now you're on my list too.. right after Jar Jar. :D

As for making my blood boil and pissing me off in a literal sense. No. I was joking.

It is my least favorite of the 6 by far. If any of the others were out in 3d, I'd make it a point to go because I like #2/#3.

gstelmack 02-07-2012 08:46 AM

I've seen these enough and own the Blu-Rays. 3-D is just a gimmick to me, no reason to go out and spend money just to see it in 3-D. Maybe if my kids want to see it on a screen bigger than what we just bought, but they're both really excited about the new TV so I don't think that's going to be a big deal...

larrymcg421 02-07-2012 09:45 AM

I'm not sure which I hate more, 3D or the Star Wars prequels.

Autumn 02-07-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 2605576)
I've never understood the ridiculous hatred of the prequels. The originals are written just as badly, acted just as badly and have just as much stupid campy crap. The only difference is 2 decades between making them. I grew up during the ULTIMATE Star Wars explosion, I understand the hype over it but holy cow, they're just movies.


I've watched the originals repeatedly over the last couple years with my boys, and I'll grant that there's some silly, campy stuff in there (hello stupid song in Jabba's palace). But both the writing and acting are still light years ahead of the prequels. The originals have plenty of flaws, they're not some thespian genius. But a lot of the acting is fantastic - Leia and Han are the main reason these movies took off, I think, they really hit those characters. And the writing generally stays out of the way, at least.

There's no reason to make death threats to anybody, but clearly plenty of people are disappointed by the quality of the prequels. Part of it was the fact that people hoped for something even better than the originals, and were let down. But even letting that go I can't say they are well made at all.

JediKooter 02-07-2012 11:17 AM

I grew up LOVING Star Wars and I was a bit disappointed by the prequels (Revenge of the Sith being the best of the prequels) and I still watch them from time to time. Are they great? No, not when compared to the first trilogy. I can see how a younger generation would like them more than my generation does though. Of course, they are the same generation that likes Twilight, so, for whatever that's worth.

I hate 3D, but, I'm seeing it this Saturday at Skywalker Ranch. If it was anywhere else, I wouldn't go see it, but, since it's at Skywalker, it kind of brings a unique aspect to seeing the movie, in my opinion.

NorvTurnerOverdrive 02-07-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 2605576)
...The originals are written just as badly...

no they're not. it's not even close. they use star wars to explain the monomyth/hero's journey in screenwriting 101.

it succeeds where the prequels fail. its foundation is rock solid. it's perfect in its simplicity. the prequels were a fucking mess structurally.

cameron gets it. that's why avatar made a fuckload of money. he didn't reinvent the wheel. he remade pocahantas with aliens.

which leads to my favorite lucas quote and also explains why he sucks. 'people don't care about story, they want a spectacle.'

NorvTurnerOverdrive 02-07-2012 11:28 AM

dola:

and the characters all had distinct personalities and weren't carved out of soap.

Autumn 02-07-2012 11:37 AM

Yeah, for whatever flaws the originals had, the structure was good. The structure is what's a horrible mess in the prequels. No matter how corny Mark Hammill was, you cared about what happened to him.

Phantom Menace is like a video game - "Oh you need to get off the planet but don't have enough money? Take this side quest!"

Arles 02-07-2012 11:42 AM

I'm looking forward to taking my son to see them. The Star Wars movies are just movies, not alters to be worshiped. ;)

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 02-07-2012 11:50 AM

According to box office mojo this is how the special editions did, first number is total money made and the second number is opening weekend:

Star Wars (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $138,257,865 $35,906,661 1/31/97
8 The Empire Strikes Back (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $67,597,694 $21,975,993 2/21/97
9 Return of the Jedi (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $45,470,437 $16,293,531 3/14/97
____
I think the 3d movies will match what Return of the Jedi did as a re-release. I can't imagine it making more. We shall see.

CleBrownsfan 02-07-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2605791)
According to box office mojo this is how the special editions did, first number is total money made and the second number is opening weekend:

Star Wars (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $138,257,865 $35,906,661 1/31/97
8 The Empire Strikes Back (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $67,597,694 $21,975,993 2/21/97
9 Return of the Jedi (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $45,470,437 $16,293,531 3/14/97
____
I think the 3d movies will match what Return of the Jedi did as a re-release. I can't imagine it making more. We shall see.


$15+ (compared to '97 ticket prices) a ticket will definitely inflate the money made from the 3d movies...

Rizon 02-07-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2605772)
I grew up LOVING Star Wars and I was a bit disappointed by the prequels (Revenge of the Sith being the best of the prequels) and I still watch them from time to time. Are they great? No, not when compared to the first trilogy. I can see how a younger generation would like them more than my generation does though. Of course, they are the same generation that likes Twilight, so, for whatever that's worth.

I hate 3D, but, I'm seeing it this Saturday at Skywalker Ranch. If it was anywhere else, I wouldn't go see it, but, since it's at Skywalker, it kind of brings a unique aspect to seeing the movie, in my opinion.


This. Except I like the new 3D and I'm not watching it at Skywalker Ranch.

NorvTurnerOverdrive 02-07-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2605772)
I hate 3D, but, I'm seeing it this Saturday at Skywalker Ranch. If it was anywhere else, I wouldn't go see it, but, since it's at Skywalker, it kind of brings a unique aspect to seeing the movie, in my opinion.

you're the cult member whitesoxfan is trying to rescue aren't you.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 02-07-2012 12:23 PM

:) shh!!! he is not ready for an intervention yet!

stevew 02-07-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2605791)
According to box office mojo this is how the special editions did, first number is total money made and the second number is opening weekend:

Star Wars (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $138,257,865 $35,906,661 1/31/97
8 The Empire Strikes Back (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $67,597,694 $21,975,993 2/21/97
9 Return of the Jedi (Special Edition)
(Re-release) Fox $45,470,437 $16,293,531 3/14/97
____
I think the 3d movies will match what Return of the Jedi did as a re-release. I can't imagine it making more. We shall see.


Maybe my 20 million estimate is way too low. I could see the original trilogy re-releases putting up similar amounts(to the 97 re-release) when they release in 3d. Especially with the Blu Ray just coming out over Xmas, I just wonder who will get excited for The Phantom Menace(let alone the following 2).

CrimsonFox 02-10-2012 07:30 AM

I just saw this and it pretty much nails everything wrong with it. Never thought too closely.
PHANTOM PHRIDAY! All sorts of Phanton Menace-related junk! |

That is in 3d though. Kinda started hurt my eyes, then I found the original that's NOT in 3d...so watch this instead...


JediKooter 02-10-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2605810)
:) shh!!! he is not ready for an intervention yet!


Wait, what?? That ain't cool man. Not cool!!! I thought you guys were throwing me a party with a bunch of relatives I haven't seen in years. I'm out!!!

Honolulu_Blue 02-10-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 2605576)
Seriously, y'all fanboys (see anyone who thinks the way Mustang does above) need to get over yourselves. They're movies. If they upset you that much you should stop watching movies, like. Ever.

I've never understood the ridiculous hatred of the prequels. The originals are written just as badly, acted just as badly and have just as much stupid campy crap. The only difference is 2 decades between making them. I grew up during the ULTIMATE Star Wars explosion, I understand the hype over it but holy cow, they're just movies.


Total Fail. Even more than your usual!



Honolulu_Blue 02-10-2012 11:00 AM

I wont be seeing this. I have no real interest in 3D and I don't really enjoy the prequels at all. That said, I no longer have anger or hatred about them.

What's done is done. I still love the original movies, but my emotional investment is pretty much spent.

JediKooter 02-10-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizon (Post 2605802)
This. Except I like the new 3D and I'm not watching it at Skywalker Ranch.


I'm sure there will be a 3D showing for the rest of the movies in the franchise at Skywalker. (hint hint)

NorvTurnerOverdrive 02-10-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2607395)
Me-sa loves da prequel-sa. Me-sa thinks George Lucas is a Ohhh-kay-sa

it's no use. he's too far gone.

stevew 02-10-2012 02:40 PM

Projected at like a 24 million dollar opening. Alas, this could be my Elmo-loo

JediKooter 02-10-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive (Post 2607496)
it's no use. he's too far gone.


Haha! Cute.

Draft Dodger 02-10-2012 09:05 PM

saw it tonight. the 3D was rather "meh" to me - didn't really add anything at all (except to the price of my ticket). I would have thought Lucas would add things flying out of the screen, but as far as I could tell nothing was changed. I guess I shouldn't complain about that (#HanShotFirst)

when the kids are watching at home, I can entertain myself through the dumb parts, but at the theater my captive audience status was locked in. So I found myself passing the time by coming up with little head-scratchers from the movie. like...

when they are on Tattoine, who responded back to Naboo allowing Darth Maul to track them? especially since Amadalia / Padme is not on the ship when it happened

and when Padme returns, why does the fake Amadelia instruct Padme to clean R2? wouldn't she pick one of the other handmaidens to do the dirty work?

and how is that huge Gungan city hiding in that little tiny pond?

and if the Gungan city is so far away from the city that the Jedis had to take a ship through the core, how come it was really quick for the droid army to get to them on land and also for Naboo folks to go to the city (twice).

and if Watto was immune to the Jedi mind trick, why didn't Qui Gon just go find a pilot who could take him to Coruscant?

how come all large buildings in the galaxy need to have an extremely deep pit?

and how come ships and battle stations don't put their power cores behind some sort of shield or wall or something?

and mostly, how can George Lucas make breathtakingly realistic cities / worlds / landscapes and then give us a crowd in the podracer scene that pretty much looks (and sounds) like 12 people.

still nice to see it in theaters.

CrimsonFox 02-10-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2607648)
saw it tonight. the 3D was rather "meh" to me - didn't really add anything at all (except to the price of my ticket). I would have thought Lucas would add things flying out of the screen, but as far as I could tell nothing was changed. I guess I shouldn't complain about that (#HanShotFirst)

when the kids are watching at home, I can entertain myself through the dumb parts, but at the theater my captive audience status was locked in. So I found myself passing the time by coming up with little head-scratchers from the movie. like...

when they are on Tattoine, who responded back to Naboo allowing Darth Maul to track them? especially since Amadalia / Padme is not on the ship when it happened

and when Padme returns, why does the fake Amadelia instruct Padme to clean R2? wouldn't she pick one of the other handmaidens to do the dirty work?

and how is that huge Gungan city hiding in that little tiny pond?

and if the Gungan city is so far away from the city that the Jedis had to take a ship through the core, how come it was really quick for the droid army to get to them on land and also for Naboo folks to go to the city (twice).

and if Watto was immune to the Jedi mind trick, why didn't Qui Gon just go find a pilot who could take him to Coruscant?

how come all large buildings in the galaxy need to have an extremely deep pit?

and how come ships and battle stations don't put their power cores behind some sort of shield or wall or something?

and mostly, how can George Lucas make breathtakingly realistic cities / worlds / landscapes and then give us a crowd in the podracer scene that pretty much looks (and sounds) like 12 people.

still nice to see it in theaters.



you would love that video I've posted above. :)
It asks many of the same questions you just asked. :)
I like how he interprets the "Padme, go clean the droid" issue

Matthean 02-10-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 2605576)
Seriously, y'all fanboys (see anyone who thinks the way Mustang does above) need to get over yourselves. They're movies. If they upset you that much you should stop watching movies, like. Ever.

I've never understood the ridiculous hatred of the prequels. The originals are written just as badly, acted just as badly and have just as much stupid campy crap. The only difference is 2 decades between making them. I grew up during the ULTIMATE Star Wars explosion, I understand the hype over it but holy cow, they're just movies.


Luke was the whiny punk kid in the originals. Anakin was the same for the prequels. If I had to sit and watch either one, give me Luke.

Chewbacca vs. Jar Jar. The end.

Padmé and Anakin vs. Luke, Han and Leia. Even Stephine Meyer thought the romance in the prequels was bad.

Another issue is that Vader is the almighty big bad in the originals and the prequels just seemed to string together villains to fill that role while never really filling it.

JediKooter 02-13-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2607648)
saw it tonight. the 3D was rather "meh" to me - didn't really add anything at all (except to the price of my ticket). I would have thought Lucas would add things flying out of the screen, but as far as I could tell nothing was changed. I guess I shouldn't complain about that (#HanShotFirst)

when the kids are watching at home, I can entertain myself through the dumb parts, but at the theater my captive audience status was locked in. So I found myself passing the time by coming up with little head-scratchers from the movie. like...


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when they are on Tattoine, who responded back to Naboo allowing Darth Maul to track them? especially since Amadalia / Padme is not on the ship when it happened

No one responded back. The message was picked up by the ship and Darth Maul was able to figure out who received it and where. Someone in the movie mentions that whoever sent the message has the ability to find out who received it. I'm thinking it was Qui-Gon, but, it may have been someone else, but, it is explained.

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and when Padme returns, why does the fake Amadelia instruct Padme to clean R2? wouldn't she pick one of the other handmaidens to do the dirty work?
They don't do the decoy thing half assed on Naboo.

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and how is that huge Gungan city hiding in that little tiny pond?
The whole core of the planet is water. The 'pond' could be one of the many ways to get to Gungan City.

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and if the Gungan city is so far away from the city that the Jedis had to take a ship through the core, how come it was really quick for the droid army to get to them on land and also for Naboo folks to go to the city (twice).
Time dilation to move the story along. It would be boring if you saw them traveling. It's just like in Empire Strikes Back. How did Luke get all that training in, while on Cloud City it looks like Han and company arrived in the evening, Chewie finds C-3PO the next morning, had dinner with Vader, tortured that night, getting frozen the next morning and then Luke showing up in the afternoon.

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and if Watto was immune to the Jedi mind trick, why didn't Qui Gon just go find a pilot who could take him to Coruscant?
It wasn't in the script? Actually, just a plot device to get Anakin into the story.

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how come all large buildings in the galaxy need to have an extremely deep pit?
Well, in all fairness, we haven't seen the insides of all the tall buildings. ;)

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and how come ships and battle stations don't put their power cores behind some sort of shield or wall or something?
Because no one in the universe expects an attack from the inside. duh. :D

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and mostly, how can George Lucas make breathtakingly realistic cities / worlds / landscapes and then give us a crowd in the podracer scene that pretty much looks (and sounds) like 12 people.
Crappy sound system at the theater?

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still nice to see it in theaters.

I saw it at Skywalker this past Saturday and the sound was amazing. Even the crowd during the pod racing scene didn't seem like it was just a couple of people clapping or cheering. It is Phantom Menace though, so, my expectations weren't set very high. Some of the 3D looked good and other times I couldn't even tell it was 3D. My date that I brought was really impressed it with it though.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 02-13-2012 12:25 PM

4th place...23 million

Kodos 02-13-2012 12:26 PM

Well my, my this here Anakin guy
May be Vader some day later
Now he's just a small fry...

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 02-13-2012 12:28 PM

Interesting to see the new poster


Compared to the old



wherefore art thou Annakin, Padme, Qui-Gon and Jar Jar?

JediKooter 02-13-2012 12:32 PM

Anakin is in the pod racer. As for Padme, Qui Gon and Jar Jar...

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding 02-13-2012 12:40 PM

Of course! How could I miss him...silly me :-)

ISiddiqui 02-13-2012 12:53 PM

From what I've heard, the best parts of the 3D effect are in the lightsaber duel between Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, & Obi-Won and the pod race. So they highlighted those in the new poster it seems.

JediKooter 02-13-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding (Post 2608449)
Of course! How could I miss him...silly me :-)


:)

I like how in the new poster, Yoda just has this sad, disconnected look on his face as he gazes out into the world that is the Phantom Menace.

Autumn 02-13-2012 01:21 PM

You can see him thinking, "Shit they're going to make me hop around with a lightsaber like an idiot aren't they?"

NorvTurnerOverdrive 02-13-2012 01:23 PM

he needed the check

Autumn 02-13-2012 01:41 PM

"When 900 years old you reach, so picky about paychecks you will not be. Arthritis medicine ain't cheap on Dagobah."

spleen1015 02-13-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2608512)
"When 900 years old you reach, so picky about paychecks you will not be. Arthritis medicine ain't cheap on Dagobah."


Yoda speak failure.


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