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cartman 09-18-2012 07:54 AM

Official College Football Week 4 thread
 
The first month of the season wraps up this weekend. Many teams are starting conference play. Here are the matchups between Top 25 teams:

Arizona at Oregon
Clemson at Florida State
Kansas State at Oklahoma
Michigan at Notre Dame

MacroGuru 09-18-2012 08:10 AM

BYU travels to Boise and plays on the smurf turf Thursday night.

Logan 09-18-2012 08:30 AM

Rutgers visits Arkansas for a game that has a whole different meaning than when it was announced earlier in the year. Very excited for this one. I imagine if Wilson plays and the team snaps out of all this, we'll have little chance but it will be interesting to watch.

sooner333 09-18-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2716376)
Rutgers visits Arkansas for a game that has a whole different meaning than when it was announced earlier in the year. Very excited for this one. I imagine if Wilson plays and the team snaps out of all this, we'll have little chance but it will be interesting to watch.


I went to that Arkansas game last week--you'll have the benefit of a very sedate crowd (which wasn't the case at the start of the game, but was the case soon thereafter; emptying of the seats was in short order after that). The fans have certainly given up and perhaps the players too. Rutgers most certainly has a shot to take this one--as you said, a far cry from what would have been thought in the preseason.

I'm looking forward to the OU-K State game this weekend. Should be big...I hope the crowd will treat it like the big game it is.

Chief Rum 09-18-2012 09:52 AM

UCLA hosts Oregon State in OSU's first game since their surprise takedown of Wisky in Corvallis two weeks ago--and also their only game of the season so far. We'll get to see how legit the Beavers are pretty quick.

Honolulu_Blue 09-18-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2716448)
UCLA hosts Oregon State in OSU's first game since their surprise takedown of Wisky in Corvallis two weeks ago--and also their only game of the season so far. We'll get to see how legit the Beavers are pretty quick.


Given that Wisky barely squeaked by Utah State at home last week, winning 16-14, I am not sure how impressive a win that is in hindsight.

Ksyrup 09-18-2012 10:23 AM

Obviously huge game for FSU. Outside of UF, they may not have another tough game on the schedule, assuming Miami and VT are what they appear to be. Maybe NC State... they always seem to play us tough.

Ksyrup 09-18-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2716454)
Given that Wisky barely squeaked by Utah State at home last week, winning 16-14, I am not sure how impressive a win that is in hindsight.


Poor Utah State - that team has, what, about a half-dozen unbelievable losses/collapses since the beginning of last year? They are like the Charlie Brown of college football.

Chief Rum 09-18-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2716454)
Given that Wisky barely squeaked by Utah State at home last week, winning 16-14, I am not sure how impressive a win that is in hindsight.


I agree. As a UCLA fan, though, I was just giving due respect to an opponent and trying to be sure not to jinx the Bruins.

I think any rational read of this game has UCLA covering the current two TD spread or close enough.

I. J. Reilly 09-18-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2716479)
I agree. As a UCLA fan, though, I was just giving due respect to an opponent and trying to be sure not to jinx the Bruins.

I think any rational read of this game has UCLA covering the current two TD spread or close enough.


The line is really at 14? That sounds like way too much to me, so mark me down as irrational.:)
Couple of things I would note in the Beavers defense here: this is only going to be there second game of the year, they are almost completely healthy at this point and the as the old saying goes you make your biggest gains from game 1 to game 2. They also have had two weeks to prep for UCLA’s offense and UCLA doesn’t have much film to work with on our offense.

On the flip side we’ve had a hell of a time actually winning in the Rose Bowl over the last few years, even when UCLA was playing poorly we usually lose. So I would be surprised if we do pull off the upset, but I would also be really surprised if this ends in a UCLA blowout.

Chief Rum 09-18-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly (Post 2716518)
The line is really at 14? That sounds like way too much to me, so mark me down as irrational.:)
Couple of things I would note in the Beavers defense here: this is only going to be there second game of the year, they are almost completely healthy at this point and the as the old saying goes you make your biggest gains from game 1 to game 2. They also have had two weeks to prep for UCLA’s offense and UCLA doesn’t have much film to work with on our offense.

On the flip side we’ve had a hell of a time actually winning in the Rose Bowl over the last few years, even when UCLA was playing poorly we usually lose. So I would be surprised if we do pull off the upset, but I would also be really surprised if this ends in a UCLA blowout.


Well, it opened up at -11 and jumped to -13.5 shortly after that, apparently. Not sure if the pendulum has swung the other way yet. UCLA is getting a lot of hype all of a sudden, so it's not a surprise to see the money come in hard on the UCLA side.

I expect the Beavers to be a tougher team to beat than people expect, but I do figure UCLA will pull out the win, for the exact reasons you mention, this is in the Rose Bowl and Oregon State struggled against UCLA even when they were coached by nimrods. If this were in Corvallis, this prediction might go different.

Regardless, I'm hopeful for a fun game on both sides on Saturday.

Ksyrup 09-18-2012 12:39 PM

OK, now I think this is just for publicity and not some oblivious crazy fan.

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MacroGuru 09-20-2012 09:22 PM

What an ugly first half of football.

panerd 09-20-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sooner333 (Post 2716380)
I went to that Arkansas game last week--you'll have the benefit of a very sedate crowd (which wasn't the case at the start of the game, but was the case soon thereafter; emptying of the seats was in short order after that). The fans have certainly given up and perhaps the players too. Rutgers most certainly has a shot to take this one--as you said, a far cry from what would have been thought in the preseason.

I'm looking forward to the OU-K State game this weekend. Should be big...I hope the crowd will treat it like the big game it is.


I put a bet on Klien to win the Heisman at the beginning of the year at 100-1 odds. (only $5 but still a nice payout) I checked online after the USC loss and he was at 10-1. Wish I would have bought it from the stock site instead of having to actually win the bet. But that kid is a stud and this is going to be a great game. The SEC may end up being the right choice down the line but count me as a Mizzou fan that misses the old Big 8 rivalries immensely.

BYU 14 09-20-2012 11:08 PM

Just fuck......

Very un-Bronco Mendenhall like move going for 2 at the end. That's a lot to put on a true freshman QB.

MacroGuru 09-20-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 2717707)
Just fuck......

Very un-Bronco Mendenhall like move going for 2 at the end. That's a lot to put on a true freshman QB.


Yeah and I made a bet with some good friends of mine that are BSU fines...looks like I will be sporting the Bronco logo and smurf turf on my FB until BYU wins again...might be a long time with the way our offense is playing.

And Weber needs to lose his job...that oline is worthless and they should be better than they are.

BYU 14 09-20-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 2717708)
Yeah and I made a bet with some good friends of mine that are BSU fines...looks like I will be sporting the Bronco logo and smurf turf on my FB until BYU wins again...might be a long time with the way our offense is playing.

And Weber needs to lose his job...that oline is worthless and they should be better than they are.


Yeah, we are not good up front....I think I will be getting boxed again on cougarboard though. The meltdown there is fucking epic....I need to not reply to some people over there, bandwagon fuckers :)

MrBug708 09-20-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 2717708)
Yeah and I made a bet with some good friends of mine that are BSU fines...looks like I will be sporting the Bronco logo and smurf turf on my FB until BYU wins again...might be a long time with the way our offense is playing.

And Weber needs to lose his job...that oline is worthless and they should be better than they are.


Weber still worthless?

bronconick 09-21-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 2717707)
Just fuck......

Very un-Bronco Mendenhall like move going for 2 at the end. That's a lot to put on a true freshman QB.


I figured we should all thank him for not leaving us in a situation where the game would have continued.

MacroGuru 09-21-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 2717712)
Weber still worthless?


Yes he is...We had an awards watchlist Guard, a bunch of seniors with experience on our Oline and not one can get the snap count correct, create a hole or pass block.

BYU 14 09-21-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 2717736)
I figured we should all thank him for not leaving us in a situation where the game would have continued.


What and miss out on an OT full of offensive ineptitude? :)

BYU has not had a solid answer at QB since Max Hall left and it sucks worse than ever this year with as good as the defense is.

Ksyrup 09-21-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 2717707)
Just fuck......

Very un-Bronco Mendenhall like move going for 2 at the end. That's a lot to put on a true freshman QB.


My biggest problem with the call is that it wasn't "the end." No matter how good your D is playing, 3:30 is a lot of time to leave the other team to just need a FG to still beat you, even if you get the 2. So I'm not sure that risk was really worth it. 45 seconds left, then yeah I can buy that call.

BYU 14 09-21-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru (Post 2717756)
Yes he is...We had an awards watchlist Guard, a bunch of seniors with experience on our Oline and not one can get the snap count correct, create a hole or pass block.



This, I have never seen such poor line play at BYU, there is a lot of talent on that line, they are in great shape, but not an ounce of nasty sonofabitch in a single one of them.

This is what nasty looks like Weber :D


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tarcone 09-21-2012 07:14 PM

Im looking forward to Mizzou/South Carolina. This could be an upset. If Mizzous patchwork line can hold up.

Iowa hosts Central michigan, who is considered on the worst 25 college football teams. I hope we dont struggle.

Go Hawks!

Matthean 09-21-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 2718034)
Iowa hosts Central michigan, who is considered on the worst 25 college football teams. I hope we dont struggle.


Even MSU looked like they had an offense against them.

CU Tiger 09-21-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 2718034)
Im looking forward to Mizzou/South Carolina. This could be an upset. If Mizzous patchwork line can hold up.




I really, really wish you were right.
However I think its more like Clowney breaks the all time NCAA sack in a game record.

Really cant believe Steve Spurrier is allowing a player to start at QB with a broken shoulder blade and isnt catching more flack for it.

Matthean 09-22-2012 11:54 AM

UAB up 9-0 on OSU. Even if OSU wins, the Big Ten continues to look retched.

mauchow 09-22-2012 12:19 PM

Hey, is Wisconsin back to being Wisconsin?

Freshman, Stave looking good back there at QB as the OLine is finally starting to do something after a rough start to the day.

I know it's UTEP but we gotta start somewhere before we head into enemy territory next week in Lincoln.

BillJasper 09-22-2012 12:27 PM

Looks like Ohio State woke up.

tarcone 09-22-2012 12:32 PM

Iowa down 23-14 at half. Are you kidding me?

Matthean 09-22-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1 (Post 2718186)
Hey, is Wisconsin back to being Wisconsin?

Freshman, Stave looking good back there at QB as the OLine is finally starting to do something after a rough start to the day.

I know it's UTEP but we gotta start somewhere before we head into enemy territory next week in Lincoln.


There was no way that team was staying down all season long.

BillJasper 09-22-2012 01:19 PM

Nice special teams play by Haynes of Ohio State.

mauchow 09-22-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2718192)
There was no way that team was staying down all season long.


Wisconsin back to being Wisconsin of 2012.

tarcone 09-22-2012 01:47 PM

Iowa goes ahead on a 47 yard FG into the wind. Score is now 24-23. 8 minutes left in the game.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:17 PM

Iowa scored with about 4 minutes left on their back up FB turned RBs 3rd TD of the day. We went up 31-23. Central Michigan just scored a TD but failed on the 2 point conversion. Iowa ahead 31-29 with 45 seconds left.
Onside kick coming up. Delay of game on CMU on the kick off. Do it again. CMU recovers the onside kick.

Oh brother.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:20 PM

Personal foul against Iowa. CMU close to FG position.

Matthean 09-22-2012 02:20 PM

I hope Iowa wins for no other reason that one of the more annoying sports fans I have on FB graduated from CMU.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:22 PM

Ball on our 39

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:23 PM

31 yard line. 11 seconds left. Time out CMU.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:25 PM

47 yards FG attempt for CMU.
Career long.
Iowa TO

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:26 PM

FG good. CMU 32-31

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:27 PM

Its nice that we pay our football coach about $4 million a year.

JonInMiddleGA 09-22-2012 02:28 PM

David Harman 47 yard field goal GOOD.

Wow. Just wow.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:29 PM

Time to go to Hawkeyenation.com to see the reaction.

This is going to be a loooooonnnnnnggggg season.

Karlifornia 09-22-2012 02:31 PM

Central Michigan is love, Iowa is not

Matthean 09-22-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 2718222)
Its nice that we pay our football coach about $4 million a year.


Granted the 15 yard personal foul kind of helped cost the game.

tarcone 09-22-2012 02:38 PM

True. But that is being undisciplined. Which can be traced to the HC. And what about out Jr. TE watching the onside kick skirt by him. Poorly coached.

And the Fire Ferentz posters are out in force.

Matthean 09-22-2012 02:41 PM

I do wonder if he's tapped out and or lost control of the team. I was going to mention this earlier and back it up with some data but it seems the data wasn't there as much as it was in my head. I don't really seeing the program moving forward with him there though. Once the downward spiral happens, it's difficult for a coach who has been there 10+ years to turn it around.

JonInMiddleGA 09-22-2012 02:43 PM

GT kick returner started out of the end zone, apparently changed his mind ... and somehow managed to down the ball to give away a safety. Unbelievable

12-0 Miami, still in the first.


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