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jbergey22 12-24-2012 12:42 PM

Volunteer Fire Fighters and Police shot at
 
‘Trap was set’ for firefighters shot and killed responding to Webster, N.Y. fire, police chief says | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

Disgusting! This type of stuff is becoming all to frequent.

Shkspr 12-24-2012 01:08 PM

Clearly now is the time for LaPierre to advocate that firefighters carry loaded weapons with them into every blaze.

Qwikshot 12-24-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shkspr (Post 2761153)
Clearly now is the time for LaPierre to advocate that firefighters carry loaded weapons with them into every blaze.


And machine guns mounted on the trucks.

Suburban Rhythm 12-24-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwikshot (Post 2761154)
And machine guns mounted on the trucks.


Remove the hoses, replace with rocket launchers.

GrantDawg 12-24-2012 02:28 PM

My father was a fire fighter, and my uncle was Battalion Chief who was shot on duty. This just hit home with me hard. No words could possibly describe the disgust I feel.

cuervo72 12-24-2012 02:31 PM

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Spengler beat Rose Spengler, who then lived in the house next door on Lake Road, to death with a hammer in 1980, the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle reported.

So hey, is this the right place to open up a death penalty debate?

GrantDawg 12-24-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2761160)
So hey, is this the right place to open up a death penalty debate?



At the very least, how does he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer, and then make parole?

Kodos 12-24-2012 03:37 PM

Ugh. I grew up in a suburb of Rochester. This definitely hits home. Guys sets his house on fire and then opens fire on the responders. Sick bastard.

MacroGuru 12-24-2012 05:06 PM

Yeah, I am supposed to head up to the area tomorrow with the Girlfriend and her family. Her sister is up there and we called as soon as we heard to make sure they were ok.

RainMaker 12-24-2012 05:29 PM

Horrible story especially on Christmas Eve. Can't fathom what those families are going through.

RainMaker 12-24-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 2761161)
At the very least, how does he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer, and then make parole?


Sounds like he was only convicted of manslaughter in her death.

The individuals who helped him acquire the weapons should be put in jail for life.

BYU 14 12-24-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 2761173)
Sounds like he was only convicted of manslaughter in her death.

The individuals who helped him acquire the weapons should be put in jail for life.


This, I am not advocating taking guns away, but we need background checks at all gun shows which is loophole now, limits on quantities of guns purchased at one time and penalties to anyone who does not follow the proper protocol when supplying guns legally and REALLY stiff penalties for anyone caught in illegal gun trade.

And fuck the NRA for refusing to acknowledge our gun laws do not need at least some type of revision and using these tragedies as propaganda to get more guns into peoples hands while bringing nothing productive to the topic.

gstelmack 12-25-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 2761182)
And fuck the NRA for refusing to acknowledge our gun laws do not need at least some type of revision and using these tragedies as propaganda to get more guns into peoples hands while bringing nothing productive to the topic.


It was already illegal for him to have any of the guns he used. As noted, we need to use the laws we have to prosecute anyone who helped him get those guns. I will agree that we need to close the gun show loophole, and maybe if it was found that that was how he acquired the guns, it will help close it.

MacroGuru 12-25-2012 09:15 PM

Was actually a sobering discussion at dinner tonight at the girl friends sister. Her sons friend was in the explorer post the one officer ran, he hasn't handled this very well.

The young kid was a graduate from the school her sister subbed in and also came up through the explorer program.

They had a discussion just after Sandy Hook that something like that could happen in their area and wham, this happened...


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