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Suburban Rhythm 06-16-2013 06:16 AM

The Official NHL Offseason (Cindy-free Zone) thread
 
As to not clutter up the playoff thread

Suburban Rhythm 06-16-2013 06:25 AM

Ovechkin - Hart
Crosby - Lindsay
Subban - Norris
Huberdeau - Calder
Bobrovsky - Vezina

Honolulu_Blue 06-16-2013 07:50 AM

Well done with the thread title, SB.

bbor 06-16-2013 08:21 AM

Wow...What's a Detroit fan doing posting in this Off-season thread before the finals are over??....oh wait.... :p

Honolulu_Blue 06-16-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2833381)
Wow...What's a Detroit fan doing posting in this Off-season thread before the finals are over??....oh wait.... :p


Look who's getting all fat and sassy after their first playoffs appearance in, what, a decade or so? Slow your roll, Chalupa! :)

bbor 06-16-2013 09:26 AM

Sadly,i'm sure the Wings will win 2 or 3 more cups before the Leafers do.

Chances are that Petr Klimas hair will likely come back into style again before the Leafs win a cup.

Suburban Rhythm 06-16-2013 10:26 AM

Interesting note on media voting for awards.

Pascal Dupuis finished 7th in Selke voting. He's pretty good defensively. Really good skater, solid on the PK.

But, Chris Kunitz finished 13th. And Crosby 15th!

How in the world did anyone score on a line that had 3 of the top 15 defensive forwards in the league!?!?! :p

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 09:58 AM

Pavel Datsyuk, 3 year extension.

DaddyTorgo 06-18-2013 10:03 AM

Bergy getting robbed in the Selke voting. Grrrrr

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2833943)
Bergy getting robbed in the Selke voting. Grrrrr


But he did get the King Clancy, that's gotta be worth something, right?

DaddyTorgo 06-18-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2833944)
But he did get the King Clancy, that's gotta be worth something, right?


True. And I'm sure you ask him he'd rather have Lord Stanley's Cup than the Selke.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 10:46 AM

To further highlight why media people shouldn't be voting on these...

Toews had 167 total votes.
Bergeron, 164.

3 writers left him off their ballot entirely.

ETA: Most recent # I can find, 2011 there were 177 members of the PHWA. So some guys aren't even submitting ballots most likely.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2833942)
Pavel Datsyuk, 3 year extension.


$7.5m per

Honolulu_Blue 06-18-2013 11:06 AM

This news makes me happy.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 06:55 PM

LA signs Slava Voynov to 6 year, $25m extension ($4.167m)

SJ signs Logan Couture to 5 year, $30m extension ($6m)

Philly agrees* with Mark Streit to 4 year, $21m deal ($5.25m)

* Will not have cap space to complete deal until, as rumored, Bryzgalov and Briere bought out on July 1

Danny 06-18-2013 07:02 PM

Woot, got Voynov locked up long term!

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2834062)
Woot, got Voynov locked up long term!


I really like that deal. He's not a #1...but he's a top 3 on any team in the league.

EagleFan 06-18-2013 07:24 PM

Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.

Dr. Sak 06-18-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2834068)
Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.


The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!

EagleFan 06-18-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2834074)
The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!


lol, they have the same viewpoint of the Finals as the Flyers do and the Flyers don't have the shame of being the "hands down favorites" to win it all and not even make the finals.

EagleFan 06-18-2013 08:51 PM

The thread title is just a Penguins fan's tantrum after being asked to take it to another thread because they were taking up space in the Playoff thread talking about their crappy team/players. It's the finals, talk Bruins and Blackhawks in that thread now (show their fans some respect, their teams earned it). Not who did what in the regular season from a team watching the finals on TV.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2834074)
The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!


But not THE top player. Laviolette announced who that was last year.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2834068)
Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.


Only somebody not really interested in the games would continually throw out "Cindy". It reeks of fanboy inferiority complex.

Never fear. Philly will win some year, if they keep signing a new goalie every two years, and defensemen to 35+ contracts, it's bound to work at some point.

EagleFan 06-18-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2834097)
Only somebody not really interested in the games would continually throw out "Cindy". It reeks of fanboy inferiority complex.

Never fear. Philly will win some year, if they keep signing a new goalie every two years, and defensemen to 35+ contracts, it's bound to work at some point.


Waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa.... typical Penguin fan...

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2834100)
Waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa.... typical Penguin fan...


This thread is for talking about the offseason.

Maybe start an "Obsessed with players and teams other than my own" thread?

britrock88 06-18-2013 09:48 PM

Okay, guys. 26 other teams are watching the Finals, too.

Honolulu_Blue 06-19-2013 01:17 AM

Congrats to the Grand Rapids Griffins winnings the Calder Cup!

Suburban Rhythm 06-19-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2834128)
Okay, guys. 26 other teams are watching the Finals, too.


Yeah, but Toronto doesn't count, they're used to it

bbor 06-19-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2834324)
Yeah, but Toronto doesn't count, they're used to it


Zing.....


Another upset PIT fan that we didn't beat the Bruins.:p

Suburban Rhythm 06-19-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2834330)
Zing.....


Another upset PIT fan that we didn't beat the Bruins.:p


What you guys needed is a proven, Stanley Cup winning goaltender. Therefore, Marc-Andre Fleury is yours. We'll call it even.

Fidatelo 06-19-2013 08:04 AM

Jets/Capitals get to square off in some place called Stirling-Rowden, last years Kraft Hockeyville, for a pre-season game in September.

Yay?

Suburban Rhythm 06-19-2013 08:51 AM

PING claphamsa

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

Quote:

Joe Sakic, the executive vice president of hockey operations for the Avalanche, told The Denver Post on Tuesday night they will pass on the top-rated defenseman and instead choose between forwards Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin or Alexander Barkov.
"If we do pick first, we're leaning more toward one of those three forwards," Sakic told the paper. "We feel those three forwards are just too good to pass up."


claphamsa 06-19-2013 08:58 AM

well, Ill have to put my faith in Joe, as I dont know shit :) that being said, Center isnt really a need... and D is a huge need.... so.....

Suburban Rhythm 06-19-2013 09:10 AM

If they truly believe Mackinnon is the best player, then so be it.

More shocking to me that saying anything like this seems so out of character for Joe.

claphamsa 06-19-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2834379)
If they truly believe Mackinnon is the best player, then so be it.

More shocking to me that saying anything like this seems so out of character for Joe.


yeah, maybe its a smoke screen to try to up the price to trade the pick.... maybe FLA really wants Mac....

Passacaglia 06-19-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2834310)
Congrats to the Grand Rapids Griffins winnings the Calder Cup!


I guess now that the Calder Cup is in the Calder City, all is right with the world.

Draft Dodger 06-19-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2834375)
well, Ill have to put my faith in Joe, as I dont know shit :) that being said, Center isnt really a need... and D is a huge need.... so.....


not super surprised. MacKinnon just seems more and more like a guy that you don't want to let go.

if there was a guarantee that Jones would reach his potential, I think they'd take him. But top ranked D are no sure thing (which the Avs can see first hand in Erik Johnson)

edit - in the SBN mock draft, we took MacKinnon and Florida took Drouin with Jones falling to 3rd
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl-mock-draft

Suburban Rhythm 06-19-2013 01:42 PM

There are people who like Drouin as the BPA.

From things I've read the comparisons I've seen most often:

Mackinnon = Tavares w/ speed
Drouin = Kane/Giroux
Jones = Pietrangelo/Niedermayer

Dr. Sak 06-20-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2834095)
But not THE top player. Laviolette announced who that was last year.


Right that's why I said two of the top five...not the Top player in the world and another top 5 player ;)

MacroGuru 06-20-2013 03:59 PM

Rumor has it Lindy Ruff is going to sign on to coach the Stars....

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2013 02:32 PM

Jonathan Bernier to Toronto.

I didn't think Reimer was too bad. Pushed Boston to 7 games, had them beaten until the team as a whole shit the bed.

Maple Leafs 06-23-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2835447)
Jonathan Bernier to Toronto.

I didn't think Reimer was too bad. Pushed Boston to 7 games, had them beaten until the team as a whole shit the bed.

Yeah, it's a strange deal. Reimer was top ten in every major category last year, yet going back to the weeks leading up to the deadline the Leafs have been focused on getting anyone they could find to replace him.

The price for Bernier wasn't exorbitant, but it just seems like an odd use of resources for a team with so many other glaring holes.

EagleFan 06-23-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2834103)
This thread is for talking about the offseason.

Maybe start an "Obsessed with players and teams other than my own" thread?


Edit: take a week to settle down. I know you have been dealing with some health issues and really hope you will return.

Galaxy 06-23-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2835509)
...


Wow...unravel your panties and take a chill pill. It's sports trash-talking banter.

Honolulu_Blue 06-24-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2835509)
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Dude, seriously. SB only put the Flyers in the title as a joke because you kept complaining about off-season posts in the playoffs thread. It was all in good humor. Chill.

Logan 06-24-2013 07:09 AM

I prefer EF not chill and keep bringing the stereotypical Philly-fan posts that he's always complaining about!

Toddzilla 06-24-2013 07:23 AM


Lathum 06-24-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2835535)
I prefer EF not chill and keep bringing the stereotypical Philly-fan posts that he's always complaining about!


You don't have to worry about it, he said on Facebook this morning he has some health issues and is done with FOFC.

Suburban Rhythm 06-24-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2835509)
Edit: take a week to settle down. I know you have been dealing with some health issues and really hope you will return.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2835550)
You don't have to worry about it, he said on Facebook this morning he has some health issues and is done with FOFC.


Honestly had no idea there were health issues. Maybe that explains the obsessive nature...

I'll change the damn title. Sort of.

Fidatelo 06-24-2013 03:31 PM

So the Jets have extended Claude Noel for 1 year. I'm not sure what to think of that. I don't really agree with the entire 'lame duck' concept for coaches (players aren't 'lame ducks' the year their contract expires, if anything people expect them to play harder). But if you do, does a 1-year extension really change anything? Isn't it basically a transparent "we don't want to hear the lame duck stuff anymore but we still don't really know if we like this coach" contract?

As for Noel himself, I really don't know what to make of him. He is trying to coach a pretty low-talent team, so it's hard to blame him for the teams record. At the same time, he hasn't really done anything obvious from a coaching perspective that has made me think "wow, this guy is good". He has battled with players (Burmi most famously), had terrible special teams, and done nothing novel in terms of any kind of systems. But at the same time, the Jets have come rather close to the playoffs both years and really do have a lot of Turd Fergusons filling the roster.

So....yay?


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