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rowech 11-27-2013 01:48 PM

What motivates you?
 
Poll to follow...

Draft Dodger 11-27-2013 03:13 PM

I'm not very motivated

CU Tiger 11-27-2013 03:19 PM

Fear of Failure.
Leads to a constant search for happiness because no matter what is achieved there is always the fear it will be yanked away at any moment.

Danny 11-27-2013 04:07 PM

Neither. What primarily motivates me is wanting to be a good person who does the right thing. And wanting to be their for the ones I love / care about

tarcone 11-27-2013 04:44 PM

Im motiveted to do a good job so I can slack off at other things.

rowech 11-27-2013 04:50 PM

I should give some more context to this. Friends and I were debating sports and I contend that the greatest athletes in any sport are great not because success motivates them but fear of failure does/did.

JPhillips 11-27-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger (Post 2877671)
Fear of Failure.
Leads to a constant search for happiness because no matter what is achieved there is always the fear it will be yanked away at any moment.


This. I am trying to learn to enjoy what I have rather than search for what I don't have.

Danny 11-27-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech (Post 2877702)
I should give some more context to this. Friends and I were debating sports and I contend that the greatest athletes in any sport are great not because success motivates them but fear of failure does/did.


That would have helped lol

Marc Vaughan 11-27-2013 09:07 PM

Partially fear of failure / letting down people ... partially just wanting to do the right thing, because well ... its the right thing to do (oh and a dash of 'anal retentiveness/perfectionism' I hate feeling I could have done something better and didn't).

Danny 11-28-2013 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 2877743)
Partially fear of failure / letting down people ... partially just wanting to do the right thing, because well ... its the right thing to do (oh and a dash of 'anal retentiveness/perfectionism' I hate feeling I could have done something better and didn't).


Ill add the bottom part if yours to mine as well. I'm hard on myself and want to feel I did the best I possibly could

JonInMiddleGA 11-28-2013 07:24 AM

FWIW, given the context I'd have flipped my answer.

Fidatelo 11-28-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rowech (Post 2877702)
I should give some more context to this. Friends and I were debating sports and I contend that the greatest athletes in any sport are great not because success motivates them but fear of failure does/did.


I've always heard the opposite, that the greatest athletes are completely unafraid to fail so they don't hesitate to try to succeed.

Desnudo 11-28-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 2877743)
Partially fear of failure / letting down people ... partially just wanting to do the right thing, because well ... its the right thing to do (oh and a dash of 'anal retentiveness/perfectionism' I hate feeling I could have done something better and didn't).


I know next to nothing about psychology but isn't perfectionism a result of fear of failure?

Marc Vaughan 11-28-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2877796)
FWIW, given the context I'd have flipped my answer.


With sports its none of the above for me tbh; its the challenge of it - I love playing soccer but I'm fairly slow and far from agile ..... but I've found over the years I can hold my own by using body strength and positioning, but its tough especially against younger frankly better players ....

I like testing myself and seeing whether I can manage to do ok in such circumstances.

(its the same with board games and suchlike tbh, I don't enjoy the winning as much as the challenge of pitting myself against others and have had games I've lost which I've enjoyed far more than games where I've thrashed someone)

Marc Vaughan 11-28-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 2877802)
I know next to nothing about psychology but isn't perfectionism a result of fear of failure?


According to 'psychology' it is if its an unhealthy thing - however as with most things there are different types and levels of perfectionism.

I try and balance my approach by concentrating on positives if I fail at something and remembering that life is a learning experience and you learn more from failures sometimes than from your successes.

Noop 11-28-2013 06:16 PM

Fear of never fulfilling the potential people see in me.

StLee 11-28-2013 06:30 PM

When I played baseball and now that I play adult softball, I always go up to bat with the "don't fail" attitude. Don't miss the ball when swinging. Don't get out. Reaching on an error is not a success, exactly, but it is definitely not a failure.

I can extend that philosophy to the rest of my life. I don't care if I'm not first place, but I absolutely don't want to be last place in anything.

It may be why I never had the drive that "winners" have. But I have a perfectly happy middle-of-the-pack life.

SteveMax58 11-30-2013 02:40 PM

I'd agree that most elite athletes, top innovators, and similar people at the top of their profession tend to be motivated by fear of failure.

I think people do tend to read "fear of failure" as a few different things. Usually something negative, or as if it makes them a wimp to fear something. I see it as a fear of inadequacy and the fear of not being good enough.

Fear is proven as the most powerful motivator time & again, so it shouldn't be a surprise that the people who are best at things tend to be driven primarily by fear. But those that do succeed are more fearful of failing than of other things...which is what I think it separates them as the top of what they do.

Danny 11-30-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by StLee (Post 2877905)
When I played baseball and now that I play adult softball, I always go up to bat with the "don't fail" attitude. Don't miss the ball when swinging. Don't get out. Reaching on an error is not a success, exactly, but it is definitely not a failure.

I can extend that philosophy to the rest of my life. I don't care if I'm not first place, but I absolutely don't want to be last place in anything.

It may be why I never had the drive that "winners" have. But I have a perfectly happy middle-of-the-pack life.


That differs from my mindset completely. Playing floorball as an adult, my mindset was to make a play / score a game / make a great pass every time I got the ball. The exception was when I played with one specific guy who yelled at people a lot and Then I started becoming afraid of making s mistake and I played worse because of it. I didn't play with him often though. My skill level was rather low playing with people who played their entire lives, but nobody played harder then I did. I never felt the desire to be the best, but wanted to perform the best I could with the skill I had

Flasch186 11-30-2013 09:59 PM

I was once asked in an interview whether or not I wanted accolades or wealth and I answered that I wanted to get as far away from Bankrupt as possible. They asked why and I talked about my upbringing. It seemed to go over ok. It was mostly I guess that my family always had an anxiety about money issues throughout my childhood and that is really an insidious type of anxiety as a kid. you're always always worried about something you dont really know anything about. To this day I'd say I continue to try to get as far away from zero as possible.

Sun Tzu 12-01-2013 01:05 AM

God. God motivates me. God and little baby Jesus.

CU Tiger 12-01-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 2878366)
I was once asked in an interview whether or not I wanted accolades or wealth and I answered that I wanted to get as far away from Bankrupt as possible. They asked why and I talked about my upbringing. It seemed to go over ok. It was mostly I guess that my family always had an anxiety about money issues throughout my childhood and that is really an insidious type of anxiety as a kid. you're always always worried about something you dont really know anything about. To this day I'd say I continue to try to get as far away from zero as possible.


This 1000x times.

Very well said.

duckman 12-01-2013 11:27 AM

People who told me that I wouldn't amount to anything and I would be failure (had a surprising number of people who said those type of things to me as a child/young adult). I wanted to prove them wrong so badly, so I work that much harder to just stick it to them. Not a healthy way of motivation, but it worked for me.

Galaril 12-01-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2877690)
Neither. What primarily motivates me is wanting to be a good person who does the right thing. And wanting to be their for the ones I love / care about


This is my answer as well.

Schmidty 12-02-2013 12:12 PM

Gummy bears at the end of the day.

CAsterling 12-02-2013 02:45 PM

Depends on the activity.
Work - Money (stop paying me and I will stop working)
Activities - The challenge of finding out if I can succeed at something.
Life in general - Making people I like happy my exceeding their expectations.
Animals - The fear of failing to do as much as I can to make their life as good as possible (I like animals, people not so much).

Raiders Army 12-02-2013 08:01 PM

Fear of success.

Raiders Army 12-02-2013 08:02 PM

No, maybe it's more the thrill of failure.


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