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Suburban Rhythm 05-24-2014 06:58 AM

The Official NHL 2014 Offseason Thread
 
Rather than putting this in the old regular season thread.

I was way behind the times this season, but I have the THN Future Watch issue if anybody wants a review, leave a team name, I'll post them as I can.

Jonathan Drouin in the #1 prospect, Johnny Whitehall (aka Gibson) was 2nd - these are done around December/January.

claphamsa 05-24-2014 10:34 AM

AVS!!!!

MrBug708 05-24-2014 11:56 AM

Probably should have 2014 in the title

Suburban Rhythm 05-24-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2929855)
AVS!!!!


As explained at the beginning of the magazine, each team received a letter grade, a system ranking (1-30), and a +/- score: where do they rank in comparison to where their average draft position was over the last 4 drafts. All NHLer regulars 21 and under also included

So a team ranked 1st, and has the highest avg draft spot would be even. Same for the team ranked 30 and picking 30th, on average.

Colorado
Ranked 9th (includes Landeskog and McKinnon)
Grade B
ADR even (9th/9th)

1- Chris Bigras (64 overall) - D - #32 2013 - Owen Sound (OHL)
2- Duncan Siemens - D - #11 2011 - Lake Erie (AHL)
3- Joey Hishon - C - #17 2010 - Lake Erie (AHL)
4- Calvin Pickard - G - #49 2010 - Lake Erie (AHL)
5- Stefan Elliott - D - #49 2009 - Lake Erie (AHL)
6- Sami Aittokallio - G - #107 2010 - Lake Erie (AHL)
7- Spencer Martin - G - #63 2013 - Missassauga (OHL)
8- Will Butcher - D - #123 2013 - U Denver (NCHC)
9- Mitchell Heard - C - #41 2012 - Lake Erie (AHL)
10- Trot Bourke - LW - #72 2012 - Prince George (WHL)

kingfc22 05-24-2014 01:19 PM

Sharks (aka perennial under achievers)

MikeVic 05-24-2014 02:08 PM

Jets please, thank you.

Suburban Rhythm 05-24-2014 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2929880)
Sharks (aka perennial under achievers)


San Jose
Ranked 21 (includes Hertl and Nieto)
Grade C+
+/- even (21/21)

1- Mirco Mueller (17 overall) - D - #18 2013 -Everett (WHL)
2- Gabryel Boudreau - LW - #49 2013 - Baie-Comeau (QMJHL)
3- Taylor Doherty - D - #57 2009 - Worcester (AHL)
4- Freddie Hamilton - C - #129 2010 - Worcester (AHL)
5- Chris Tierney - C - #55 2012 - London (OHL)
6- Nick Petrecki - D - #28 2007 - Worcester (AHL)
7- Konrad Abeltshauser - D - #163 2010 - Worcester (AHL)
8- Harri Sateri - G - #106 2008 - Worcester (AHL)
9- Christophe Lalancette - C - #109 2012 - Drummondville (QMJHL)
10- Dylan Demelo - D - #179 2011 - Worcester (AHL)

Petrecki seems like he should be 30 years old...been around forever.

Suburban Rhythm 05-24-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 2929887)
Jets please, thank you.


Winnipeg
Rank 8th (includes Trouba and Scheifele)
Grade B
+/- -4 (drafting 4th/rank 8th)

1- Josh Morrissey (30 overall) - D - #13 2013 - Prince Albert (WHL)
2- Nic Petan (57 overall) - C - #43 2013 - Portland (WHL)
3- Eric Comrie (73 overall) - G - #59 2013 - Tri-City (WHL)
4- Adam Lowry - C - #67 2011 - St. John's (AHL)
5- Andrew Copp - C - #104 2013 - Michigan (Big Ten)
6- Connor Hekkebucyk - G - #130 2012 - UMASS Lowell (Hockey East)
7- Julian Melchiori - D - #87 2010 - St. John's (AHL)
8- Scott Kosmachuk - RW - #70 2012 - Guelph (OHL)
9- JC Lipon - RW - #91 2013 - St. John's (AHL)
10- Ryan Olsen - C - #160 2012 - Kelowna (WHL)

Listening right now to WB/S Baby Pens and St John's in AHL Conference final.

Logan 05-26-2014 03:22 PM

I'll post my request hopefully in a few weeks!

britrock88 05-26-2014 11:30 PM

Canes for now?

Suburban Rhythm 05-27-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2930174)
Canes for now?


Didn't bring it with me to work, I'll get it later tonight

britrock88 05-27-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2930228)
Didn't bring it with me to work, I'll get it later tonight


Not expecting anything pretty, anyway, so no rush. :)

Grover 05-27-2014 03:17 PM

Flyers, please!

DaddyTorgo 05-27-2014 03:19 PM

Bruins?

NoSkillz 05-27-2014 03:57 PM

Buffalo Sabres please!

Suburban Rhythm 05-27-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2930174)
Canes for now?


Carolina
Rank 5th (includes Skinner, Faulk, Murphy, Lindholm)
Grade B+
+/- +5 (Rank 5/ADR 10)

1- Brock McGinn - LW - #47 2012 - Guelph (OHL)
2- Michal Jordan - D - #105 2008 - Charlotte (AHL)
3- Victor Rask - C - #42 2011 - Charlotte (AHL)
4- Trevor Carrick - D - #115 2012 - Sudbury (OHL)
5- Phil DiGiuseppe - LW - #38 2012 - U Michigan (Big Ten)
6- Brett Pesce - D - #66 2013 - New Hampshire (Hockey East)
7- Sergey Tolchinsky - LW - FA 2013 - SS Marie (OHL)
8- Daniel Altshuller - G - #69 2012 - Oshawa (OHL)
9- Keegan Lowe - D - #73 2011 - Charlotte (AHL)
10- Jaccob Slavin - D - #120 2012 - Colorado College (NCHC)

Obviously, high ranking based mainly on the guys already in the NHL...which isn't a bad thing.

Suburban Rhythm 05-27-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover (Post 2930288)
Flyers, please!


Philadelphia
Rank 27th (includes Couturier)
Grade C+
+/- even (rank 27/ADR 27)

1- Scott Laughton (15 overall) - C - #20 2012 - Oshawa (OHL)
2- Samuel Morin (56 overall) - D - #12 2013 - Rimouski (QMJHL)
3- Shayne Gostisbehere - D - #78 2012 - Union (ECAC)
4- Nick Cousins - C - #68 2011 - Adirondack (AHL)
5- Mark Alt - D - Trade w/ CAR 2013 - Adirondack (AHL)
6- Anthony Stolarz - G - #45 2012 - London (OHL)
7- Robert Hagg - D - #41 2013 - Ornskoldsvik (Swed)
8- Taylor Leier - LW - #117 2012 - Portland (WHL)
9- Oliver Lauridsen - D - #196 2009 - Adirondack (AHL)
10- Petr Straka - RW - #FA 2013 - Adirondack (AHL)

Not Flyers related, but your buddy Dumoulin ranked Pens 2nd prospect, #45 overall.

Suburban Rhythm 05-27-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2930290)
Bruins?


Boston
Ranked 15th (includes Hamilton)
Grade B-
+/- +2 (rank 15/ADR 17)

1- Malcolm Subban (25 overall) - G - #24 2012 - Providence (AHL)
2- Joe Morrow (50 overall) - D - Trade w/ DAL 2013 - Providence (AHL)
3- Ryan Spooner (59 overall) - C - #45 2010 - Providence (AHL)
4- Niklas Svedberg - G - FA 2012 - Providence (AHL)
5- David Warsofsky - D - Trade w/ STL 2010 - Providence (AHL)
6- Alexander Khokhlachev - C - #40 2011 - Providence (AHL)
7- Brian Ferlin - RW - #121 2011 - Cornell (ECAC)
8- Linus Arnesson - D - #60 2013 - Djurgarden (Swed)
9- Anthony Camara - LW - #81 2011 - Providence (AHL)
10- Jared Knight - -C - #32 2010 - Providence (AHL)

Suburban Rhythm 05-27-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSkillz (Post 2930303)
Buffalo Sabres please!


Buffalo
Ranked 6th (includes Girgensons)
Grade B+
+/- +2 (rank 6/ADR 8)

1-Rasmus Ristolainen (7 overall) - D - #8 2013 - Rochester (AHL)
2- Nikita Zadrov (8 overall) - D - #16 2013 - London (OHL)
3- Mikhail Grigorenko (42 overall) - C - #12 2012 - Quebec (QMJHL)
4- Joel Armia (54 overall) - RW - #16 2011 - Rochester (AHL)
5- Jake McCabe - D - #44 2012 - U Wisconsin (Big Ten)
6- Johan Larsson - C - Trade w/ MIN 2013 - Rochester (AHL)
7- JT Compher - C - #35 2013 - U Michigan (Big Ten)
8- Nick Baptiste - RW - #69 2013 - Sudbury (OHL)
9- Gustav Possler - RW - #130 2013 - Modo (Swed)
10- Brayden McNabb - D - #66 2009 - Rochester (AHL)

Suburban Rhythm 06-06-2014 11:35 AM

So Penguins hiring Jim Rutherford as GM.

More and more, hard not to listen to the rumors swirling about the management structure of this team.

Marketing > winning, at least it seems that way.

Dr. Sak 06-06-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2932476)
So Penguins hiring Jim Rutherford as GM.

More and more, hard not to listen to the rumors swirling about the management structure of this team.

Marketing > winning, at least it seems that way.


Are we talking about the Pirates?

Ronnie Dobbs3 06-06-2014 12:06 PM

#BylsmaOut

Suburban Rhythm 06-06-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2932489)
Are we talking about the Pirates?


Pretty much what they're becoming.

The Steelers have been bad recently, but at least have the sense to keep the "product" people and the business people separate for the most part.

Suburban Rhythm 06-18-2014 07:31 AM

This was just....Wow

Thornton, Bruins will miss each other

Quote:

BOSTON -- His playing days with the Boston Bruins are now a memory, but Shawn Thornton has earned the right to be mentioned in the same breath as Bobby Orr, Terry O'Reilly, Ray Bourque and Cam Neely.

Fidatelo 06-18-2014 07:52 AM


Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 11:09 AM

Columbus trades RJ Umberger + 4th round pick

Philadelphia trades Scott Hartnell

Logan 06-23-2014 11:48 AM

I know Hartnell isn't the player he once was but that seemed really curious when I saw it.

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 11:53 AM

And Hartnell had a NMC. So sort of curious he'd OK the move. Unless he made the initial request?

Don't fully understand it. Sure Philly gets out of those last few years of his deal in 17/18 and 18/19. But no savings today.

The Jackal 06-23-2014 11:59 AM

Yeah this is a weird move. I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what else they do - but this is a downgrade.

4.6m vs 4.75m, so not saving cap space. Maybe Umberger is faster? I'm not really sure. Hextall seems serious about increasing team speed, and Hartnell is not very fleet of foot.

Also very possible they turn around and try to trade Umberger somewhere else, since he doesn't have a NTC and Hartnell did.

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 12:05 PM

Umberger is not very quick. He was a healthy scratch in I believe 2 games vs the Penguins in round 1 this year.

Buyout wise it's pretty minimal difference dollar wise, just that a buy out of Hartnell would carry on longer because of length of remaining contract. And Comcast could eat that if they really wanted to.

R.J. Umberger buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $1,600,000
2015-16: $1,600,000
2016-17: $1,600,000
2017-18: $1,500,000
2018-19: $1,500,000
2019-20: $1,500,000

Scott Hartnell buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $1,250,000
2015-16: $1,250,000
2016-17: $1,250,000
2017-18: $1,750,000
2018-19: $3,250,000
2019-20: $1,500,000
2020-21: $1,500,000
2021-22: $1,500,000
2022-23: $1,500,000
2023-24: $1,500,000

Clearly, Hartnell feels his best shot at a Cup is going through Columbus to LA.

BishopMVP 06-23-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2935934)

LOL. More like PJ Stock, Lyndon Byers and John Wensink. john wensink challenges the minny bench - YouTube

Logan 06-23-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2937671)
Clearly, Hartnell feels his best shot at a Cup is going through Columbus to LA.


Saw on Twitter that Richards/Carter were traded on 6/23/11 and JVR was traded on 6/23/12. Not sure what happened last year...maybe separate knob on the alarm?

The Jackal 06-23-2014 12:54 PM

It wouldn't make any sense for the Flyers to buy-out Umberger. Either they see him as a good complement to Couturier/Read for the third line or they like that they could move him in a trade easier than Hartnell.

It's a head scratcher but let's see what else, if anything, Hexy has up his sleeve for the roster. He's maintained that he wants to build through the draft and keep young players - I'm still hoping he can somehow pry the #1 from Florida..

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 02:14 PM

Pat Burns, finally, inducted into the HOF

Along with Hasek, Forsberg, Modano, Blake and Bill McCreary

bhlloy 06-23-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2937725)
Pat Burns, finally, inducted into the HOF

Along with Hasek, Forsberg, Modano, Blake and Bill McCreary


Fuck yeah! Hard to argue with any of those selections, but they finally got the biggest one right. Doesn't eliminate the wrongdoing of not inducting him while he was alive but good to see none the less

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 02:46 PM

I kind of wonder what the process is like for someone like McCreary

After watching years of hockey, you recognize names. But what exactly is the standard for an official to make the HHOF?

"Well, once, in a playoff game, he called a penalty in OT...so he's legit!"

The Jackal 06-23-2014 04:12 PM

Lindros should make it next year...

Draft Dodger 06-23-2014 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2937806)
Lindros should make it next year...


what if his dad won't let him?

claphamsa 06-23-2014 05:09 PM

Flyers sign Schenn long term...

Suburban Rhythm 06-23-2014 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2937873)
Flyers sign Schenn long term...


Hope he got a NMC

sterlingice 06-23-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2937816)
what if his dad won't let him?


Will he force a trade to the Lacrosse Hall of Fame?

SI

cuervo72 06-23-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2937806)
Lindros should make it next year...


Stupid Larry Bertuzzi...

The Jackal 06-24-2014 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2937873)
Flyers sign Schenn long term...


Since when is two years long term?

Very reasonable bridge contract, 2.5m per year.

Suburban Rhythm 06-24-2014 08:11 AM

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Awesome Chicago Tribune title

sterlingice 06-24-2014 08:32 AM

:D

SI

claphamsa 06-24-2014 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2938000)
Since when is two years long term?

Very reasonable bridge contract, 2.5m per year.


just quoting TSN.... but yeah, great contract for philly

Pyser 06-27-2014 01:54 PM

trades and draft and stuff today, right?

Chief Rum 06-27-2014 02:01 PM

I believe so, yes.

TSN is reporting Kesler to the Ducks for Bonino, Sbisa and the 24th overall pick.

bhlloy 06-27-2014 02:15 PM

Jesus that's a steal. Bonino is good but also at the peak of his value, Sbisa is terrible (sad face as he's one of my favorite players and looked like he was a stud at one point) and the #24 is nothing.

Good thing Vancouver didn't move him at the draft! The package on the table then was far bigger than that. What a train wreck that front office has become.

The Jackal 06-27-2014 02:35 PM

Garrison to TB. Canucks dismantling.


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