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Kodos 08-18-2015 01:33 PM

Jordan vs. Lebron - Best of Seven series
 
There's been a lot of Jordan vs. Lebron talk of late. Assuming each player is in his prime, who wins a seven-game, one-on-one series? Poll to come.

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3047879)
You want to specify any other rules?


Playing to 21. Neutral ref on hand to call fouls. Normal three-point line.

digamma 08-18-2015 01:40 PM

You want to specify any other rules?

Logan 08-18-2015 01:43 PM

Jordan 4-0.

/Bayless

JeeberD 08-18-2015 01:44 PM

I think LeBron's sheer size advantage would give him the edge. They're pretty well matched up in just about everything else...

Kodos 08-18-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3047879)
You want to specify any other rules?


Playing to 21. Neutral ref on hand to call fouls. Normal three-point line.

heybrad 08-18-2015 01:52 PM

90's hand checking or current day hand checking?

tarcone 08-18-2015 01:54 PM

Jordans competitiveness is unmatched. No way he loses.

BillJasper 08-18-2015 01:57 PM

Jordan, 4-1.

Nothing against James, he's an incredible athlete. But he also seems to lack the killer instinct that Jordan brought to every game.

nol 08-18-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 3047882)
I think LeBron's sheer size advantage would give him the edge. They're pretty well matched up in just about everything else...


Yeah, it's kind of hard to overstate how much of an edge being bigger gives you in 1-on-1 when both players know what they're doing. Someone like Tyreke Evans could probably beat Steph Curry in straight 1-on-1 by just bullying him to the basket every time. Now you can say "Jordan was so tough and such a competitor!" but a 30+ pound weight advantage is what it is. That's why when people actually do play 1-on-1 in the NBA you're limited to one shot per possession.

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Originally Posted by heybrad (Post 3047889)
90's hand checking or current day hand checking?


This is always a funny thing to bring up because if the 90s hand checking rules were still in place when LeBron James entered the league, they wouldn't have stayed that way for long.

Kodos 08-18-2015 02:04 PM

I prefer the 90s NBA, so let's go with that.

bulletsponge 08-18-2015 02:06 PM

this is the kind of stupid filler ESPN would try to pass off as sports news

Kodos 08-18-2015 02:07 PM

Thank you. Thank you very much!

ColtCrazy 08-18-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD (Post 3047882)
I think LeBron's sheer size advantage would give him the edge. They're pretty well matched up in just about everything else...


I'm in this camp. I think Jordan has a lot of trouble with this. I say LeBron in 6. I understand Jordan's competitiveness and everything, but LeBron isn't backing down either.

Fidatelo 08-18-2015 07:27 PM

I think over time Jordan gets into Lebron's head and breaks him mentally to win in 7.

Groundhog 08-18-2015 07:47 PM

One on one, Jordan beats LeBron in 4. You can talk about LeBron's size, etc, but Jordan in his prime would not lose. The 'one on one' style plays more to Jordan's strengths than it does LeBron's.

EagleFan 08-18-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3047962)
One on one, Jordan beats LeBron in 4. You can talk about LeBron's size, etc, but Jordan in his prime would not lose. The 'one on one' style plays more to Jordan's strengths than it does LeBron's.


Remember Dr. J versus Kareem in one on one. Size trumped all.

Shkspr 08-18-2015 08:28 PM

LeBron in six, but only because Jordan is 52 right now.

(Yes, I know it said "prime", but I always think back to the debates over which hitter in baseball was better, some new star or an old favorite, and the grizzled sportswriter who would allow that the new kid was probably better, but 'only because Ty Cobb would be 95 right now.' Love that schtick.)

TroyF 08-18-2015 08:41 PM

Lebron with the size advantage, but Jordan in his prime was a dominant defensive stopper with quick hands. Lebron wouldn't just be able to back him down play after play after play to beat him. Both could get shots off anytime they wanted.

Put me in the camp that thinks Jordan would win simply because he would refuse to lose.

Dutch 08-18-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shkspr (Post 3047973)
LeBron in six, but only because Jordan is 52 right now.

(Yes, I know it said "prime", but I always think back to the debates over which hitter in baseball was better, some new star or an old favorite, and the grizzled sportswriter who would allow that the new kid was probably better, but 'only because Ty Cobb would be 95 right now.' Love that schtick.)


That Cobb answer was pretty memorable. :)

If size, the butt-bump and a good short-range fade-away ruled 1-on-1, then we better talk about Charles Barkley. (and now I've referenced Barkley twice this week...)

MikeVic 08-18-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3047962)
One on one, Jordan beats LeBron in 4. You can talk about LeBron's size, etc, but Jordan in his prime would not lose. The 'one on one' style plays more to Jordan's strengths than it does LeBron's.


I read something at one point that I thought summed up LeBron well: He's at his best when he's in constant motion, ready to strike at the right moment. He needs momentum, but once he gets it he's unstoppable.

Simbo Klice 08-19-2015 07:18 AM

LeBron in 6. I'm giving Jordan 2 out of respect for his ultra-competitiveness, but I'd think he'd have to shoot from 15 feet out plus almost constantly, where LeBron would be able to get into the paint and score at will.

CU Tiger 08-19-2015 09:46 AM

LeBron has the size, but leBron has a questionable handle.

I am a huge LeBron fan and staunch defender of his but he puts the ball in jeopardy way too frequent, much of which is attributable to his height and high dribble point. Jordan's hand speed would spell turnovers.

I am probably the only person who would say this, this way. But I think MJ wins 1-v-1 though I am not sure LeBron doesnt make a team better than MJ does.

murrayyyyy 08-19-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by heybrad (Post 3047889)
90's hand checking or current day hand checking?


If 90's hand checking is allowed Jordan won't get around a taller and heavier player.


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