All right. I've done my college homework, my sailors are asleep. I can try and tackle this now. Yesterday I spent most of the night swimming through the posts looking for anything that might help me.
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Originally Posted by lathum, post 440
Blade, do you have some sort of dark detection device like a sneakoscope ? Did you fall into a pensive by any chance?
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This didn't make much sense to me previously, but now that path has died I think Lathum may possess dark detectors. That being the case, I will be trusting Lathum more.
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Originally Posted by superman, posts 508, 509
A vote on me would be wasted let the DE attack me first before I die...
I'm not going to bandwagon on SnDvls, there is no reason to. I save a vote for later. Continue to badwagon on me, and lose an ally.
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Taken from the day sndvls was lynched. I bring this up because I think I read yesterday that a few people are suspicious of him. Only one person, Taz, left their vote on him that day. No one has voted for him since. This probably has more to deal with the fact he was the "lynch"pin (I know...groan) that sent sndvls out of the game.
One question remains for me...and it was brought up but really not addressed. Superman didn't vote the first day. When asked, he said "...by the time the deadline came I could not make an informed desicion.(post 516)"
Dubb and dacman both question this, but no answer is provided. I can understand it's hard to choose someone to lynch on day 1. That's why I usually rely on my old standby Schmidty. However, by the time Superman was in to vote, Neon had revealed his role and outed Qwikshot.
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Originally Posted by coder, post 660
Sndvls is legit
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Coder, who previously said he had read the Potter books, quoted the Anti-Disapparation Charm stuff from somewhere. In post 663, Coder defends Sndvls by saying Sndvls claimed to have no knowledge of HP (sndvls did claim this, btw), and therefore wouldn't have been clever enough to make this up.
Cronin, ironically, in post 666, said "[sndvls] could very well have been fed the idea by another death-eater. After thinking about it, I like him as a death-eater even more now."
Later in 663, coder says we have nothing to lose by giving sndvls the benefit of the doubt, and that coffee warlord's "relentess attempts" made the warlord more suspicious.
My vote for WVU came soon afterward in post 670. Looking back, I may have been influenced by coder's posts. Neon's arrival was marked at post 716. By 722, Neon threw his red challenge flag into the ring. Neon began burning everyone who challenged sndvl's guilt, starting with alan t, moving to kwhit, and finally to me. In 858, Neon included Path and Mr.W, due to their ill fated late votes on WVU. It's a little puzzling in hindsight that coder wasn't listed, but that's probably because Neon didn't see it in time.
Sndvls is lynched.
Neon posts his circle of trust in 887. "st. cronin, wvufan, lathum, kingfc22, cw, superman"
Coder posts for the first time in 902. Coder quotes Neon's suspect list. I find this interesting looking back at it. 1 hour, 20 minutes later, and perhaps he was just catching up on the posts like I was,
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Originally Posted by coder, post 950
Then this morning when I woke up I immediately checked to see how things had gone and was very stumped to find out he was a liar..  Not to mention the complete embarrasment of finding Neon's posts from BEFORE I started jumping up and down qouting books etc, stating exactly what the said spell was all about.
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Neon's posts came AFTERcoder validated sndvls.
Two posts later, coder offers his explanation that the early morning hours may have had an effect.
Post 987, Coder is the first to respond to saldana's invisibility cloak post. He doesn't appear to be overly excited about it. Reading on, most everyone else doesn't either.
Lathum puts coder on his suspect list: Post 1036. Coder responds in 1060 and 1061. Lathum talks about cronin unvoting him in his post, but coder defends himself stating he never voted for Lathum. I don't think that's what Lathum was getting at. I think Lathum was seeing what I am now.
Lathum veers off target (IMO) in 1070.
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Originally Posted by lathum
OK, here is my theory. sndvls had no Harry Potter expierience that I know of so for him to make up his story he had to do alot of online research or another death eater was PMing him what say to try and wiggle his way out.
What leads me to this theory is sndvls mentions another spell, reparo, which is an actuall spell from the books. The odds that someone who hasn't read the books will come up with this is a long shot at best.
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Post 1080: WVU claims the invisibility cloak. It is never disputed. To me, this makes WVU a trusted villager. Coder says in 1120 he was going to cast a vote to WVU for his weak explanation (and a few of us thought it was), but says if we're ok with it, he is.
Post 1164: Wednesday hints, well at least RA and I think he did, he has a larger role.
Wednesday makes the late switch that sends alan t packing.
1284: Cronin dies from the night actions, but at the same time posts his circle of trust in 1285:
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Originally Posted by st.cronin
Superman, WVUFan, and everybody that voted for SnDvls- dubb (although he did hop around a bit, looking somewhat fishy), Passacaglia, Schmidty, Lathum, Jesse, Coffee, Grammaticus, king, Dacman. It's possible one of those is a death-eater. I am suspicious of KWhit and JeeberD.
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1287: Jeeber claims he's being framed for cronin's death.
1289: Wednesday speaks. At this point, I had already began to believe Wednesday. I had switched my vote off of him the night before to Alan T...which turned out to be a bad idea as well.
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Originally Posted by MR.W
Second set of thoughts on the voting yesterday:
dacman and coder cast early votes for me and didn't budge. Same for Gram with path12. Alan cast an early vote for JeeberD. Lathum, path12, and WVUFan cast unchanged votes more towards the middle, for path12, me, and me, respectively. Pass and Taz voted semi-late for Alan and me. Desnudo, Superman=#54, and Jesse cast late votes for me, Jeeber, and path12, respectively.
That's my general pool of suspicion, although there are exceptions in Superman=#54 (tiebreaking vote for SnDvls), Lathum (kicked off the charge against SnDvls), WVUFan (invisibility cloak last night), and Alan (obviously). This is what might happen if the DEs see a lot of normal wizards getting suspicion and they want to vote without drawing attention to themselves -- they can safely cast a vote for any of us and then sit back and watch the fireworks, knowing that they are not in the position of starting a bandwagon or breaking a tie.
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The next post Wednesday lists his suspects as "dacman, coder, Gram, Pass, Taz, Desnudo, and Jesse."
1311: Gramm posts his list of suspects. Coder is in the "invisible or nearly so" group.
1323: By now Lathum has forgotten his suspicion of Coder and is clearly focused on Path. For the 2nd day in a row he votes Path.
1347, 1348: Wednesday posts his thoughts on his suspects:
"* coder - really early vote for CW = highly suspicious as a "blend-in" lurker"
1348 he votes Coder.
1350: Coder addresses his status on Gramm's list...time zone differences are what keep him "invisible", my word, not his.
1355: Coder mentions he doesn't like Wednesday's list...that he has a wizardry feel for all of them.
1378: Wednesday takes his vote off of coder and puts it on me. That momentarily tied the vote up. Me being online, I cast a vote for Wednesday, also out of self preservation in post 1380. As I vote, I restate that I believe Wednesday is a villager. 1382: Wednesday acknowledges my reason.
1416: Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.W
My list of "lurker" type suspects has been posted upthread, I would strongly recommend that you review it.
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Coder posts a voting list in 1457. In 1459 he writes:
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Originally Posted by coder
Thoughts on my list above..
1) Why did Gram change from Path to Wednesday when Path was in the lead, thereby causing a tie?
2) RPI picked Pass late and he wasn't even "in the race".. so he basically threw his vote away.
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1466: CW dies due to the night action.
1469: Seeing CW die, and the way he came after me the day before, I respond that I'm being setup.
1470: Coder admits that CW was on his suspect list, though he wasn't considered since day 2. He votes Gramm in 1473. 1501: Coder states if Gramm is a villager, feel free to vote "me, Schmidty and Desnudo"
1519: Gramm thinks of doing something extreme. In 1523, he says he's put it in motion. Looking back, the order, if there was one, must have been along the lines of, "If I'm lynched, duke "X player" instead." At that point, gramm leads the vote at 4-3-3 (Gramm, path, me). By the end of the day, it's 9 path, 6 gramm, 3 me).
1534: I call out the quiet ones of the game, and vote Jesse (later moved to Gramm to try for the tie). I state I believe Gramm is the duke, and take a ration of crap from Schmidty for it. Maybe not a ration, but he does ask why.
1633, 1634: Coder posts the Day 5 vote timeline and his suspicion list.
Coder engages in some drunk posting...nothing to see here.
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I started this last night and finished it earlier this morning hoping to find out more about people...somewhere around 5 am.
I think I did. I trust Lathum a lot more now.
I thought in the beginning I was going to doubt Superman, but Coder's posts caught my attention. Specifically, where I wrote above:
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Originally Posted by coder, post 950
Then this morning when I woke up I immediately checked to see how things had gone and was very stumped to find out he was a liar.. Not to mention the complete embarrasment of finding Neon's posts from BEFORE I started jumping up and down qouting books etc, stating exactly what the said spell was all about.
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Neon's posts came AFTER coder validated sndvls.
Now here this: I'm not claiming to be the seer...and now I'm thinking I'll save this post somewhere and actually post it tomorrow. I'm afraid if I post this today (Sunday) I won't live past the night actions tonight.
The other day I was calling out the quiet ones. I still believe that's the way to go. However, I'm positive I've caught Coder in a lie.
Coder, you've flown under the radar too long.